Special Juan 28,188 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Stones is a fantastic defender already, this makes a lot of sense, not only that but like already said that they want Evans who would be the replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidEU 2,023 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Sky have also suspended betting on Stones moving. Probably nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 This is a good news. Stones I think will be the best centre-back in England shortly. Although maybe he's too young but his signing would be strategic thinking in the next decade and He can play as centre-back and right-back at the same level.20 million pounds is a good deal. But Everton is within their rights to refuse and request 30 million pounds. I think a good deal could be 25 million pounds and a player on loan like Omeruo, Bamford or Traore. And so they (one of them) could play in Premier League next season and complete their professional evolution. O Kennedy ...But this signing could be unnecessary now because we have Zouma. John Terry (c) will be indisputable this season (perhaps His last big season) but with nearly 35 years have a physical downturn may appear at any time. Cahill is not very popular among us, but he is important for Jose.I think we need another centre-back, but only players like Otamendi or Varane (impossible signings right now) would come to be indisputable with us.But for me, I'd bet on Zouma and John Stones without any doubt. Two center-backs for the next decade and so we could go to build our team with a good spine from behind.Advantages.1. Stones will be the best centre-back in the English football before long.2. Natural Heir to the role of John Terry (c).3. Rejuvenate our team.4. He and Zouma will of the 5/10 best Centre-backs in the world in three years.Disadvantages.1. Jose and his reluctance to rely on young players.2. His signing could block the Zouma's evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I think the inflated fee and English tax is actually worth it for Stones. Getting a quality CB is extremely difficult. Perhaps more difficult than any other position right now. Finding one who's this young , English, and who can play with the ball at his feet so well already is something we shouldn't pass up. He's a fantastic footballer and can only improve dramatically under the best English CB ever and Mourinho.Probably looking at Luke Shaw money here but I think it'll be worth it long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 This is a good news. Stones I think will be the best centre-back in England shortly. Although maybe he's too young but his signing would be strategic thinking in the next decade and He can play as centre-back and right-back at the same level.20 million pounds is a good deal. But Everton is within their rights to refuse and request 30 million pounds. I think a good deal could be 25 million pounds and a player on loan like Omeruo, Bamford or Traore. And so they (one of them) could play in Premier League next season and complete their professional evolution. O Kennedy ...But this signing could be unnecessary now because we have Zouma. John Terry © will be indisputable this season (perhaps His last big season) but with nearly 35 years have a physical downturn may appear at any time. Cahill is not very popular among us, but he is important for Jose.I think we need another centre-back, but only players like Otamendi or Varane (signings impossible now) would come to be indisputable with us.But for me, I'd bet on Zouma and John Stones without any doubt. Two center-backs for the next decade and so we could go to build our team with a good spine from behind.Advantages.1. Stones will be the best centre-back in the English football before long.2. Natural Heir to the role of John Terry ©.3. Rejuvenate our team.4. He and Zouma will of the 5/10 best Centre-backs in the world in three years.Disadvantages.1. Jose and his reluctance to rely on young players.2. His signing could block the Zouma's evolution.Don't think he would block Zouma's path. Zouma is just as good and probably has a brighter future. I think Jose was pretty clear with his trust in Kurt last season with the way he used him in big games and the run of games he gave him during Cahill's absolute nightmare period of the season.I havn't watched Stones so may I ask if he is a proactive defender or not? If yes I'm all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 not worth a penny more than 20mil (if that). nope. never.if GC can look WC in our system, we can make any defender look good. we already have zouma, we have iva, GC, with kalas, omerou, chirstensen coming in.dont even understand why would want to buy him at the moment when we already have 4 options (iva included). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Having to pay a possible 30 million quid for someone who is promising is far to risky. Is he that superior to Kalas and Christensen i have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 It's simple as this for me.If he's the most talented England CB with a bright future ahead of him, we must try to sign him if Jose feels he fits his team.I hope we sign him, our defense isn't among the youngest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 We will probably go up a few mill and offer a loan. Bamford, Moses, Romeu, etc.We have barely spent a penny yet of our allocated budget. Arsenal technically paid for Begovic with the Cech money. Falcao was a couple mill to loan in, 2-3. So if Begovic cost us 8m we are at break even for the summer. Yokohama's £40m will probably get invested and I'd guess that is where the money for Stones and/or Pedro would come from. Witsel if true would probably be Roman's money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 If he is good enough he is good enough. The money is not being taken out of our pockets, and it's not like FFP matters anymore. He has a contract till 2019, is one of the only two senior centre-backs Everton have so of course that will raise his price a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Most logical thing for this transfer would be to buy him now and loan him back. I don't feel he'll get the necessary playing time, unless we sell Cahill, which isn't going to happen, due to the HG quota. Unless Jose finds a way to start forming a partnership between him and Zouma(1), rotate Zouma at DM, with Cahill and Stones in the CB roles, by selling Mikel, in the cup games that is(2) or gives him time playing as a RB also, just to make him get as much game time until Terry retires. As much as I love Terry, I feel this will be his last year and Stones coming in now, would hinder his development. I'd absolutely love him here, because I think that him, Sterling and Clyne are the standouts in England right now, but I've said that a million times. Overall, there are ways Stones can play with Zouma/Cahill and I believe signing him for 20-25 mil. would be a good shout. Especially when years ago, SAF bought Phil Jones. Not to mention he'd flourish under Jose. Even if this means Zouma going somewhere with direct first team football, it also isn't bad. So, it's a tricky situation, but the club has to think it through, and they are deffo. better than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 not worth a penny more than 20mil (if that). nope. never.if GC can look WC in our system, we can make any defender look good. we already have zouma, we have iva, GC, with kalas, omerou, chirstensen coming in.dont even understand why would want to buy him at the moment when we already have 4 options (iva included).Plus the fact we will almost never see Stones-Zouma, because there is no experience there. Terry Zouma will be next season and some of the season after, then probably either Ivanovic Zouma or Cahill.We need an RB, not a CB or we risk severely stunting young Kurt Zouma's development, and that would be simply criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 At least it'd be potentially exciting seeing how Everton reinvest the money. Though not if Evans is actually going to cost them almost £10m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Filipe included we have 4 of our back line on yearly renewable contracts. We also have a need for HG players. With top class Chelsea standard HG players a rare commodity Stones seems to me as a no brainer.No I wouldnt want him if it meant us losing Zouma (I'm already getting shakes thinking he might go out on loan) But I think if we are giving up on getting Varane, who I dearly want to team with Zouma, then getting Stones for a few quid more than we should pay I can live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 He would be a good addition for the present and future, but we better not overpay. £25m is the max we should offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Mean while Vidal, one of the best mid in the world is going to Bayern for £28m approx. Different positions but the point still, no way John Stones is worth more than the best box to box mid in the world, despite being around a decade younger. CB should also be cheaper than attacking players and mid in general anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,963 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Remember when JT was praising him? It would be like a father & son relationship, JT giving him advice etc.http://www.espnfc.com/story/2501318/chelseas-john-terry-praises-everton-defender-john-stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Now we're talking. Get it done Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Stones can play fullback too. Think that is what Jose is attracted to,his versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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