Tomo 21,751 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 51 minutes ago, wilander said: Why the World (Emenalo, Mourinho, Manchester United, Juventus) wants to help crappy Mikel Obi to stay at Chelsea? We need to keep Matic instead of useless Mikel! Conte doesn't rate Mikel, after the post press conference in Austria vs Rapid, Conte's body language when he said Mikel spoke volumes. Blue_Fox_, Unionjack, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 9 hours ago, Tomo said: Conte doesn't rate Mikel, after the post press conference in Austria vs Rapid, Conte's body language when he said Mikel spoke volumes. Did you notice that too? "...Mikel." It was like he forced that name out of his mouth. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said: Did you notice that too? "...Mikel." It was like he forced that name out of his mouth. Find a clip yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Real Madrid bos Zidane is reportedly keen to sign Chelsea midfielder Nemanja Matic for £34m this summer. #CFC #RMCF #NUFC (Dailystar) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 8 hours ago, Unionjack said: Find a clip yeah. My phone is so bad it would take half an hour to link on here, but type Conte on Kante on YouTube it's first video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 30 minutes ago, Tomo said: My phone is so bad it would take half an hour to link on here, but type Conte on Kante on YouTube it's first video. Didn't see any difference to body anguage but he did say anout Matic/Mikel that hard work wasn't enough now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-rkWMq7Ct0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 4 hours ago, Unionjack said: Didn't see any difference to body anguage but he did say anout Matic/Mikel that hard work wasn't enough now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-rkWMq7Ct0 There is only one way to assess whether a manager rates a player or not: does he play? jose would say the most wonderful things about mikeI, and yet mikel did not play much under him. Managers cannot diss the players publicly because they are not his assets - they are the club's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Robguima said: There is only one way to assess whether a manager rates a player or not: does he play? jose would say the most wonderful things about mikeI, and yet mikel did not play much under him. Managers cannot diss the players publicly because they are not his assets - they are the club's. And it knocks his value down. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 you gotta let him go if he doesn't want to be here right? Also, surprised nobody seems to be talking about this in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 If the story of him wanting to leave is real then the recent links with Maia makes sense. I think Kante, Cesc, Maia, Oscar, Chalobah would not be too bad. Oh and we still have the Mikel who will outstay everyone. Fernando and Heisenberg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I'm in 2 minds over the old boy. If he was like he was at his best then I'd like to see him/Cescy/N'Golo together. But IF he does want off then we use m as a bargaing chip and get some waps going. If it comes down to him going then I'd really like to see Chalobah with those 2. I think the lad might just be really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 If that's the reason he's playing poorly then let him go. We need players who are willing to fight and play at the highest level. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 10, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted August 10, 2016 If he wishes to leave it shouldn't even be a question. We don't keep players who want to leave. We're not Everton or Tottenham! Pizy, Unionjack, Despiadado.Maleante and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Ship him out if he wants out. More worried about how quick we would get someone in to replace him if he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Ship him out, get Maia. Blue Colored Sky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Still think Matic is a great player and the main reason he's playing badly is cause he wants a move. Mourinho broke him and maybe it's best for everyone involved that he gets a change of scenery, just hope we can get a good enough fee for him. In 2016 transfer madness Matic, even given his bad form, should be worth £30M minimum. If the likes of Benteke and Bolasie get valued close to the 30M mark this year, Matic shouldn't go for any less cause it's not like Juve have many alternatives to go for. Maybe get that Brazilian kid to replace Matic, or just give his spot to Chalobah if Conte trusts the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 An issue is, how many players too do want to leave but don't voice it? More than we know. For sure Hazard in my opinion. Tis the result of (still) boring football. Unimaginative management. The stands not rocking enough. All these things come together and make a player feel depressed essentially, especially compared to past pastures. I mean honestly, the thrill of going far in European competition with Benfica, with their atmosphere, with their pre-match rituals & their constant attack-minded football, that far outweighs this feeling we create for our players of expectancy, 'You must go out and win all these things, and even then we won't show much gratitude.' There's always a sombre mood at this club, like the lid is on us and we're not letting the fireworks pop. Players want those fireworks. It's why so many leave Ligue 1 and why so many people don't watch it - because all the teams play like Chelsea, and 90% of the crowds sound like ours. (There's definitely enough technical quality in that league to enjoy, so it must be other factors we don't measure which push people away from it, like the ones I've suggested. These same things are pushing Matic away from us, imo.) Or maybe it just looks like we won't win another title until Matic is 30 and that's why. I'm being harsh probably, but it is too often that i think 'How on earth is *this player* still here?' 'Why on earth would Ashley Cole want to come back as a scout?' My point is, we, or the management, created this situation and will continue to. Players lose their smiles when they come here, they just do. Not for the first month or 2, but the energy they had for whomever they played for before us certainly fades. Look at any player we have right now and compare their personality now to before joining us. Oscar, Hazard, Costa, Matic, perhaps even Azpilicueta. I'd put money on those guys being less happy here than they were before joining. That's too much of our XI. These players used to be ecstatic people. Courtois was obviously happier at Atletico Madrid too. Why? It wasn't like they were winning more titles. It must've been... all that shit i just said. It makes sense that the only people still content with our situation are Terry, blue through and through, Cahill, an idiot, Ivanovic, an idiot, Kante - a new signing, Fabregas a passive idiot, and then who knows about Willian. I doubt our youth are happy here too. So we probably have 10 happy players if we're pushing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 37 minutes ago, Ryan Fong said: Ship him out, get Maia. Totally different type of players.. If we sell Matic wee need a defensive player like Maia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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