BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 It wasnt just 2014 and 2015,...he was great in benfica before too. If anything Mourinho ruined his confidence or composure or he just doesnt give a fuck anymore.I still think Matic is great DM, but like with the rest of team, maybe he just doesnt feel the need to go extra mile for the club. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted December 27, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 27, 2015 It wasnt just 2014 and 2015,...he was great in benfica before too.If anything Mourinho ruined his confidence or composure or he just doesnt give a fuck anymore.I still think Matic is great DM, but like with the rest of team, maybe he just doesnt feel the need to go extra mile for the club. Sadly.Exactly. His role was different though. He played left midfield, with a holding midfielder in the middle and with another player in right midfield. Benfica would play either 4-3-1-2 or 4-5-1 wiith three centre midfielders and two wide midfielders, Jorge Jesus' favourite systems.Matic was the aggressor. The physical presence. He would harry, press, tackle (standing tackle, not sliding tackle, for the most part), intercept. High up or deep in midfield.Classic play: opposition has the ball, a player is carrying the ball, the holding midfielder maintains position and contains, Matic comes in like a wrecking ball, tackles and wins the ball and initiates the transition from defence to attack. If there is one thing I love about Matic, it's how he always wants to play the ball forward.Or Matic gets forward, presses very early and high up and wins the ball.He would get up and down the pitch, the player to cover the most ground. He would carry the ball forward. Also move into advanced positions to provide a passing option and drag players out of position. And he would pop a powerful shot at goal from time to time, get a couple of goals.Freedom because there was cover.We know that role. Essien was that man for Chelsea for years and there was no one better at the time. Imagine Essien and Lampard in front of defence. It would work at times but never long-term. It's not their game. I think the same applies to Matic. Belgiannutt, Amblève., Stats and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Very good player, but in bad form and suffering because the striker isn't making the right moves, his midfield partner shirks his duties and his defence isn't as good as it needs to be.He's been bad but he's stranded half the time and asked to cover everyone else's flaws. Let's not write him off or rewrite history just yet. didierforever, robsblubot and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If people only realised that his vulnerabilites are caused by Fabregas awful positioning most of the times. I tell you, put Busquets in this team and he would get the same level of criticism Matic is getting but he is better protected in Barca. Matic always has to cover Fabregas ass and when teams are countering he is often having to mark like 3 players running towards him. It will be difficult for a lot of players in his position in a 2 man midfield playing with Fabregas tbh. Bosnian Blue and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 He's been awful but come on. He's not that bad. He's in very deep shit form for a year or so but he was bossing things at Benfica and at the first calendar year here. He was Portuguese Player of the Year, remember ? In the same time when James was playing there ! So tell me which players we're supposed to sign and which are good enough if not the best player of one of the best leagues in Europe ? robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 This thread is pretty quiet for someone who fucked the best chance of the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 This thread is pretty quiet for someone who fucked the best of the game! Becausase despite the miss he was good.As posted before for last game, Matic improved with Mikel in the team so he can bomb forward.Again he was much better with Mikel in the team to hold the fort down.Going forward this might not be the best when we need break teams down, but when need to park the bus it's effective.But we need to win, so hopefully we don't continue to play Mikel-Matic all the time.Although I see the point right now, and that's not to lose. Need to regain confidence. Ossie the King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 This thread is pretty quiet for someone who fucked the best of the game! Because apart from that, he had an excellent game. Genuinelly thought he was the best player on the pitch. Henrique and Ossie the King 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Becausase despite the miss he was good.As posted before for last game, Matic improved with Mikel in the team so he can bomb forward.Again he was much better with Mikel in the team to hold the fort down.Going forward this might not be the best when we need break teams down, but when need to park the bus it's effective.But we need to win, so hopefully we don't continue to play Mikel-Matic all the time.Although I see the point right now, and that's not to lose. Need to regain confidence.Too. Many. Touches. Every time. He takes six touches before he releases the ball. The ball circulation is horrible. Peace. and commilin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Against Watford, he gifted the opponent a penalty, today he missed a bloody sitter. Fuck sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Because apart from that, he had an excellent game. Genuinelly thought he was the best player on the pitch.Not IMO. Thought Terry was the best. The Chels and Vybz Kartel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking 10 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Not IMO. Thought Terry was the best.Courtois for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 28, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 28, 2015 Competed with Mikel and Oscr today for worst/slowest passer. Also, at this level, any midfield should be able to finish that chance, especially that De Gea made it easier by coming out so early and leaving the goal mostly open. Styles, The Chels, commilin and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Apparently a car park attendant outside is now wearing a mask the same as him after that shot. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Not IMO. Thought Terry was the best.Terry was good, but Matic was better. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Competed with Mikel and Oscr today for worst/slowest passer. Also, at this level, any midfield should be able to finish that chance, especially that De Gea made it easier by coming out so early and leaving the goal mostly open. Everyone out of position has recovered by the time he passes the ball. The pass after all those touches is basic and short as well. You can't break down any defence at that speed. It's a real problem. manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Not IMO. Thought Terry was the best.I think Matic tbh. But either way my point is that he had a fantastic game and can be excused for not scoring that opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Everyone out of position has recovered by the time he passes the ball. The pass after all those touches is basic and short as well. You can't break down any defence at that speed. It's a real problem.Well when you start Mikel and Matic in the CM role we are less likely to score goals - not really surprising is it? Sometimes stats don't lie.Unfortunately the only dynamic CM we've got can't pass the football at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Well when you start Mikel and Matic in the CM role we are less likely to score goals - not really surprising is it? Sometimes stats don't lie.Unfortunately the only dynamic CM we've got can't pass the football at all.No it's not. It's probably my least favourite CM duo.I'll never understand why you love Mikel so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laugh1ngMan 393 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Everyone out of position has recovered by the time he passes the ball. The pass after all those touches is basic and short as well. You can't break down any defence at that speed. It's a real problem.Exactly. he has the bad habit of dribbling the ball 10 yards towards a player to make a 1 yard pass instead of making a 11 yard pass.At times it's great we have a midfielder who can carry the ball forward when there are no good passing options but too often he slows the game down too much. But then again the same can be said about alot of other players... DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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