Strike 7,489 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think Jose will start Matic, and I've been impressed with Luiz in midfield in his last two games there. Against Liverpool he hardly gave their midfield a moments peace, and along side a creative presence like Matic, who he can pass the ball short too, and allow Matic to spray the ball around. Ramires to come on around the 60th minute mark along with Mata/Schurrle to really inject that pace into our game when the United players are tired.Big big calls for Jose to make.all the combinations you mentioned should own the United midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Rooney, Van Persie out of Chelsea clashhttp://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/274285.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 It would not surprise me one bit if both Rooney and RvP start this match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordblues 299 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 i got a funny feeling about this game,im thinking 5 goals plus 3-2 home win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wfisheruk 23 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Jose press conference: Ryan Bertrand going out on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I have a feeling too, it's this one......We are going to fucking arse end them big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid...Why? He isn't going to get many minutes here as it is now anyway, better to let him get some gametime than be on the bench as Jose's 3rd choice LB.On topic: Matic won't start, Lampard fit and Ivanovic is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 bertrand on loan... fuck... thats just stupid...yeah lets just leave him on the bench for the rest of the season instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Why? He isn't going to get many minutes here as it is now anyway, better to let him get some gametime than be on the bench as Jose's 3rd choice LB.so now we have 6 defenders. JT, GC, DL, iva, AC and azpi. 2 of those 6 defenders are 33 year olds and we are in the business end of the season but suddenly we are worried about the "development" and "playtime" of a 24 year old LB. ya great move!!!yeah lets just leave him on the bench for the rest of the season instead! THUD indeed!!! lets play JT and AC every match until they fall down on the pitch. but leave RB on the bench... oh nooo thats just blasphemy!!! we have 3 strikers for 1 position, 6 CMs for 2 position but are worried about bertrand being on the bench. BRILLIANT!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 THUD indeed!!! lets play JT and AC every match until they fall down on the pitch. but leave RB on the bench... oh nooo thats just blasphemy!!! we have 3 strikers for 1 position, 6 CMs for 2 position but are worried about bertrand being on the bench. BRILLIANT!!1Ash doesn't play every game! and there is no problem playing them week in week out as they can clearly handle it! I think Jose and his backroom staff are not stupid and know that Cole and JT are capable of playing most matches! So by your logic you want Bertrand to come in and play every now and then? when he can play every week and become a better player at Villa! but yeah of course Jose must be sooo stupid letting him go on loan and play every week and to improve and become a better player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 so now we have 6 defenders. JT, GC, DL, iva, AC and azpi. 2 of those 6 defenders are 33 year olds and we are in the business end of the season but suddenly we are worried about the "development" and "playtime" of a 24 year old LB. ya great move!!!THUD indeed!!! lets play JT and AC every match until they fall down on the pitch. but leave RB on the bench... oh nooo thats just blasphemy!!! we have 3 strikers for 1 position, 6 CMs for 2 position but are worried about bertrand being on the bench. BRILLIANT!!1We managed just fine the first half of the season, how many games did he really play tbh ? He's only 24 years old and he needs gametime,we could just damage his career if we let him warm the bench forever. And we also got Kalas so it's 7 defenders for 4 positions, And who knows we might have a recall option if (god help us) both of Cole/Azpi for some reason gets injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ash doesn't play every game! and there is no problem playing them week in week out as they can clearly handle it! I think Jose and his backroom staff are not stupid and know that Cole and JT are capable of playing most matches! So by your logic you want Bertrand to come in and play every now and then? when he can play every week and become a better player at Villa! but yeah of course Jose must be sooo stupid letting him go on loan and play every week and to improve and become a better player! 24 year old and we are worried about his "developement". cos if he plays week in and week out now, he will probably become the next AC. i mean in the next 4 months, RB playing for villa would change him into the best defender in the world, right?SCENARIO - iva is out for city match. azpi/cole get an injury in the united/stoke fa cup game. who plays as your RB/LB? kalas? essien? but u r right, sending out bertrand for loan is more important than title aspirations. mata is also sitting on the bench, lets loan him out. We managed just fine the first half of the season, how many games did he really play tbh ? He's only 24 years old and he needs gametime,we could just damage his career if we let him warm the bench forever. And we also got Kalas so it's 7 defenders for 4 positions, And who knows we might have a recall option if (god help us) both of Cole/Azpi for some reason gets injured... KALAS? so u r fine with a 20 year old CB being our 7th choice defender (which is actually not true cos if kalas is our 7th choice defender then baker is our 6th choice CM since both of them have played the same amount of minutes this season). instead we go out and loan a perfectly fine LB. this deal makes 0 sense, why not simply loan out kalas then? his "develpoment" is way more important and even possible than bertrand's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 24 year old and we are worried about his "developement". cos if he plays week in and week out now, he will probably become the next AC. i mean in the next 4 months, RB playing for villa would change him into the best defender in the world, right?SCENARIO - iva is out for city match. azpi/cole get an injury in the united/stoke fa cup game. who plays as your RB/LB? kalas? essien? but u r right, sending out bertrand for loan is more important than title aspirations. mata is also sitting on the bench, lets loan him out.LOOOL! The guy needs games simple! HA you can talk about worst case senario's all you want it doesn't prove anything! i could say what if Torres, Ba, Eto'o and Schurrle all get injured? does that mean it was a bad decision to loan out Lukaku? so you actually think loaning out Bertrand could hurt our title aspirations? LOOL! we could get injuries in any position and we would have players on loan who could fill in, it doesn't mean its wrong to loan someone out! how about we just recall every player we have on loan in case we get some crazy injury problem where every player in a certain position get injured! LOOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 LOOOL! The guy needs games simple! HA you can talk about worst case senario's all you want it doesn't prove anything! i could say what if Torres, Ba, Eto'o and Schurrle all get injured? does that mean it was a bad decision to loan out Lukaku? so you actually think loaning out Bertrand could hurt our title aspirations? LOOL! we could get injuries in any position and we would have players on loan who could fill in, it doesn't mean its wrong to loan someone out! how about we just recall every player we have on loan in case we get some crazy injury problem where every player in a certain position get injured! LOOL! are u an idiot or something? there is a reason there is a squad of 25 people. there is a reason why "big" teams have 8 defenders for their 4 positions.city - zabaleta, kolarov, richards, clichy, kompany, nastastic, demichellis, lescottunited - vidic, jones, evans, smalling, rafael, evra, fabio, buttneror do u think they should loan out players too?their is a squad so as to cover for injuries and too many games. bertrand was a perfect squad player for that. and thats the reason we had 6 ams for 3 positions, 5 CMs for 2 positions. get it?? so as to cover for injuries which unfortunately plays a big role!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 united - vidic, jones, evans, smalling, rafael, evra, fabio, buttnerActually United look likely to loan out Fabio because he's third choice left-back and has only appeared in one league game all season....a bit like Bertrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 are u an idiot or something? there is a reason there is a squad of 25 people. there is a reason why "big" teams have 8 defenders for their 4 positions.city - zabaleta, kolarov, richards, clichy, kompany, nastastic, demichellis, lescottunited - vidic, jones, evans, smalling, rafael, evra, fabio, buttneror do u think they should loan out players too?their is a squad so as to cover for injuries and too many games. bertrand was a perfect squad player for that. and thats the reason we had 6 ams for 3 positions, 5 CMs for 2 positions. get it?? so as to cover for injuries which unfortunately plays a big role!!! you do realise we have enough cover? you must be a bit slow i understand. let me show youRB - Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Essien, Kalas, Luiz CB - Terry, Cahill, Luiz, Kalas, IvanovicLB - Cole, Azpilicueta, Luiz, EssienLast season we loaned out Essien and then Romeu got injured and were left with 3 CM's so we played Luiz in there and he done fine! Jose trusts Essien to fill in at fullback if we need to play him there! as he done a good job there last season for Madrid! and for all you know we may be bringing someone else in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Actually United look likely to loan out Fabio because he's third choice left-back and has only appeared in one league game all season....a bit like Bertrand. cos they actually have 3 LBs (evra, buttner) not a makeshift RB (smalling, rafael). by the way add rio to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 you do realise we have enough cover? you must be a bit slow i understand. let me show youRB - Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Essien, Kalas, Luiz CB - Terry, Cahill, Luiz, Kalas, IvanovicLB - Cole, Azpilicueta, Luiz, EssienLast season we loaned out Essien and then Romeu got injured and were left with 3 CM's so we played Luiz in there and he done fine! Jose trusts Essien to fill in at fullback if we need to play him there! as he done a good job there last season for Madrid! and for all you know we may be bringing someone else in!essien and kalas. yes well said. i saw how essien performed against sunderland in the COC match. KALAS has been a relevation this season!!!u do know that one player can play in only one position in a match.or by your account matic was a useless by cos lets take a look at all our DM optionsrambo, lamps, mikel, essien, mvg, luiz, oscar (he played a game in that position under benitez).the list u have given me simply compresses to this reality for 95% of our games in which jose would not even think of starting either of essien/kalas (remember kalas has not started either of COC or FA cup or a CL dead rubber)RB - iva, azpiCB - JT, GC, DLLB - AC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 cos they actually have 3 LBs (evra, buttner) not a makeshift RB (smalling, rafael). by the way add rio to the list.Look, we've loaned out a player who appeared in one match for us for just over an hour. He's not a big loss to us in all likelihood, in fact the only person who seems to miss him is you because it means you can't include him in your team predictions anymore. All his leaving does is save one of us the trouble of pointing out to you that he won't play at the weekend. That's literally all he did at this club. Luke Shaw on the other hand would probably be a starter for us....not loaned to Vitesse. That's never been our policy and it never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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