Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Mazacar just doesnt work. I got excited at first because I thought Mourinho would make things happen, but I was wrong! We have no width, no involvement between our pivot and attackers, no protection, no outside shots, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 It does kind feel like a waste Those were unexpected points these should have been in the bank, what a *** up today, so mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Can't believe Torres is the X-factor on this team. No surprise we were exposed after an invisible performance.Seems like we can't create anything unless he dribbles past players himself.Part of the problem is the fullbacks. They literally offer fuck all in attack. When you watch the likes of Bayern, Atletico, Dortmund etc it just becomes more noticeable.Azpi, Bertrand, Mikel and Willian have earned their places for Schalke in my eyes. The alternatives haven't been good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrus 422 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Well, shit happens... We should have expected a slip up sooner or later, sooner it is then.Schalke game will show if it's a tendency or just a collective brainfart from the whole team. I'm still not buying this "it's November, we're fucked, can't win shit" stuff yet. I don't rememeber Mourinho's teams having a radical drop in form in this time of year.The most unpleasant thing is that we're dropping down in the table with one match to go before the international break. Even if the points difference is not so critical (though Ars going 5 points up would be really unfortunate) it may affect the team psychologically. From being 2nd to being 7th in worst case... Let's just hope thet Pool will manage to get some points off Arse and most matches end up in a draw.And - Jose, you said your #10 is Oscar. So please play him as #10 and stop trying to force Mata into this team because it's not working so far. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 win is a win. its not wasted. if we got a draw or lost back then it'll make it worse if we lost today. the problem with mazacar i assume related to minute playing? these days we rarely backhell pass from mata, oscar, especially hazard! mata played too safe, very cautious and lack of creativity, especially the manager is jose mourinho. well, just hope we pick it up when face schalke next weekYes, it is sort of wasted. We put in a big effort into beating one of our title rivals and then go screw it up against a lesser side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 We had this kind of performance before. This was not a game for Juan Mata, definitely our worst player today. I find it worrying that game after game, David is one making the link between defense and attack. Where is our pivot? Game after game Mourinho insists with Lampard. For anyone who have a clue about football, Lampard just can't do that role.The best thing is that Arsenal is facing Liverpool tomorrow, so one of them will drop points: I waiting for a draw or for a Liverpool win. In worst scenario we will be only 5 points behind Arsenal.Mata was ok. WE just cannot have Mata and Lampard on at the same time. If Mata goes put Mikel or Essien in the there and that frees up Ramires. Ramires baby sitting Lampard means less chances of scoring for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Can't believe Torres is the X-factor on this team. No surprise we were exposed after an invisible performance.Seems like we can't create anything unless he dribbles past players himself.Part of the problem is the fullbacks. They literally offer fuck all in attack. When you watch the likes of Bayern, Atletico, Dortmund etc it just becomes more noticeable.Azpi, Bertrand, Mikel and Willian have earned their places for Schalke in my eyes. The alternatives haven't been good enough.150% right on the part in bold.Our pivot is also part of the problem, with Lampard there, Ramires is restricted to playing like a DM and doesn't burst forward much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Lampard is a just a no, there comes a time when you have to say enough, we need something so much more different to Frank Lampard.The time is now or as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 You joined this forum recently, so there is already proof that I've been a longer fan than you.I joined when the like button wasn't on the forum, there's a reason why good posters like Terminator X and such don't have the same posts to like ratio. But on other forums like The Shed End my post to like ratio is more likes than post.So it goes to show really, but yeah whatever go and be miserable someplace else, if we won the title you would find something to complain about anyway.You complain about us not deserving to win the title after a defeat and spewed out an overreaction like a child who lost his candy, and you talk of complaining and miserable habitats? Sigh, Ill leave things be. When we win the title in May, please, least show the other members on this forum the common courtesy of not celebrating with them, as they actually supported the club through thick and thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Yes, it is sort of wasted. We put in a big effort into beating one of our title rivals and then go screw it up against a lesser side. Not to mention the fact that our early loss seems to have lit a fire under both Manchester clubs. Both are 3-0 up with not a half hour gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Not a great result but it's not like we were playing superb football on some of the matches we won.We already had difficulties this season when the other teams were playing deep.Against Norwich we could have lost that match as before our late goals, Norwich had more chances than us in the second half.If we had scored the first goal and countered them to death, I'm sure the opinions would have been different.Our build-up is very negative, we keep the ball in our half between our central defenders, hoping the other team will make mistakes in their pressing and leaving us space than a build-up to really hurt the other team organisation.And we had already the problem of huge space between our central defense and central midfield when the central midfield is pushing more to support the attacks.And if they stay in place, we have difficulties to play a quick passing game with quick interchanges of position in the final third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Mario 638 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Yes, it is sort of wasted. We put in a big effort into beating one of our title rivals and then go screw it up against a lesser side. if you put it that way so yeah.. its sorf of wasted. i think its easier to grab a win from title rivals than from teams like stoke, newcastle. errghh those teams make me always scrub bottle because their stronghold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I don't want to pick too many bones but said this earlier to a mate, what wee need as a club is a top notch holding midfielder and bust a gut to get Lewandowski from Dortmund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 150% right on the part in bold.Our pivot is also part of the problem, with Lampard there, Ramires is restricted to playing like a DM and doesn't burst forward much.Agreed. Infuriating to see Luiz doing Lampard's job for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 On the other hand, Manchester duo are scoring for fun..... God I hate this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I don't believe people are not supporting the team, they're like me just very upset we wasted a great run and a real chance to go top, there is just some points between top to bottom. I hope it was a very off day and we do better. Today we played like we did start of the season, I didn't see goals coming, particularly when Eto'o came on. I hope it isn't us going downhill already, a good result against Shalke needed. Come on Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrus 422 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 MCity going so close to us is unfortunate... Fortunately Stoke's keeper with his amazing goal (goal of the season contender, no?) is keeping us from going behind Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Luiz obviously MOTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Not to mention the fact that our early loss seems to have lit a fire under both Manchester clubs. Both are 3-0 up with not a half hour gone.Despite all the stick Moyes and United have got, they will be only 3 points behind us after today... if you put it that way so yeah.. its sorf of wasted. i think its easier to grab a win from title rivals than from teams like stoke, newcastle. errghh those teams make me always scrub bottle because their stronghold Yes, but it's pathetic that we did not keep up the same effort. Nobody turned up today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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