sodasys 40 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Catalan press say Atletico willing to sell Koke, Barca only want to pay €30m, they say Man United will go to €60m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Costa, luis, miranda, tiago, and now koke. Unbelievable that a team that reached the champions league final are getting ripped apart like this. I feel sad for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,577 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Catalan press say Atletico willing to sell Koke, Barca only want to pay €30m, they say Man United will go to €60m.Stupid if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Costa, luis, miranda, tiago, and now koke. Unbelievable that a team that reached the champions league final are getting ripped apart like this. I feel sad for themNobody left till now.I belive at least Koke and Miranda will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 02Nobody left till now.02I belive at least Koke and Miranda will stay.Hopefully its just silly season rumors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 "Pay 60m for a guy who probably wasn't worth a quarter of that last season only to play him out of position? Yeah, let's f***ing do it!"Sums up most football fans during the transfer window.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Koke has played 4,5 season of European top level football already whereas Pogba just finished his 2nd season of top-flight football. How is Pogba a "more established CM" than Koke then? Seriously?!Last time I checked he isn't even a CM. 4-5 years at the top level? Who are you kidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Last time I checked he isn't even a CM.4-5 years at the top level? Who are you kidding?Whether or not he's a CM is obscurely up for debate. All his attributes indicate that he is more of a central midfielder than an attacking midfielder.And as for top-flight football...2013/14: 58 games2012/13: 48 games2011/12: 40 games2010/11: 19 games2009/19: 4 games (Fair enough if you leave this one out.)...compared to Pogba's 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Whether or not he's a CM is obscurely up for debate. All his attributes indicate that he is more of a central midfielder than an attacking midfielder.And as for top-flight football...2013/14: 58 games2012/13: 48 games2011/12: 40 games2010/11: 19 games2009/19: 4 games (Fair enough if you leave this one out.)...compared to Pogba's 2 seasons.Dude you're living in a dream world if you think Mourinho is gonna pay 50m to Atletico for Koke to play him out of position. Chelsea play 4-2-3-1 not 4-4-2 or 4-3-3(on occasion sure) We have Oscar, Hazard, Schurrle, Moses, Salah, Willian and Marin under contract mainly because we play 4-2-3-1 we aren't going to abandon that philosophy to accommodate Koke... He hasn't played in the pivot and likely can't, I don't care how many more years he's had at the top flight, Pogba is BY FAR a much better fit to the way WE want to play and the positional need WE have.I don't get why people here want to spend loads of cash on one player to play him out of position or worse to change the philosophy of the team!IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE, TOO MUCH INVESTMENT HAS GONE INTO MAKING THIS TEAM WHAT IT IS NOW.Can we start working within the framework of the club at present and stop making these ridiculous claims that don't work with the personnel we've accumulated? If you want to have a no.10 play in the pivot what you're saying is you want Chelsea FC to fire Jose Mourinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE, TOO MUCH INVESTMENT HAS GONE INTO MAKING THIS TEAM WHAT IT IS NOW.Well, that's convincing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 @Chelsea Legend 11, I'm not advocating to buy either of them because non of them are ideal fits for the position next to Matic. Just can't stand this nonsense that Pogba is a better player than Koke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,156 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 @Chelsea Legend 11, I'm not advocating to buy either of them because non of them are ideal fits for the position next to Matic. Just can't stand this nonsense that Pogba is a better player than Koke.It's all up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 sell Oscar for a hilarious amount of money to PSG and then sign up Pogba and then we are entering an era when we will dominate.Until he has one bad season where we'll beg PSG to sign him and we'll take the next flavour of the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 @Chelsea Legend 11, I'm not advocating to buy either of them because non of them are ideal fits for the position next to Matic. Just can't stand this nonsense that Pogba is a better player than Koke.But he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drog.ba 239 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 More talented perhaps, but Koke has been better and more consistent this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 More talented perhaps, but Koke has been better and more consistent this seasonHe's basically further developed but not in the role we would use Pogba in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 But he is? Not yet IMO. Koke's passing and vision are miles ahead of Pobga's; he's more consistent; and his control of the game is superior to Pogba's atm; I like Pogba as a long-term player, he reminds me of Essien, but of the two I think Koke is the player that can come to a new club now and make his team mates better already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Stupid if true.they paid 28mil for fellaini... did u still have doubts if they were stupid or not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Not yet IMO. Koke's passing and vision are miles ahead of Pobga's; he's more consistent; and his control of the game is superior to Pogba's atm; I like Pogba as a long-term player, he reminds me of Essien, but of the two I think Koke is the player that can come to a new club now and make his team mates better already.Again that is largely dependent on what role you envision for the player. I think Pogba would be way more influential in the Pivot than Koke would which is why I would sooner pay 50m for him than Koke. Koke is further along in his development but his skill set does not lend itself to box to box role.Koke's game is similar to Lavezzi's of you ask me and Pogba is similar to Yaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Loving the unappreciative of Koke in here, yes he isn't worth 48m in the same way Pogba isn't worth anything over 35-40m, Shaw 20m...etc. But teams will still have to pay these prices. You know why? Because they don't want to leave at any mean and their clubs don't want to sell as well, well not for acceptable prices. If you don't take inflation into account, Koke is worth 25-30m min in today's market anyway. He is better now than Mata was when he joined us in 2011. So people not wanting him here because the price is one thing but underrating him is unacceptable. You guys need to understand that just because he doesn't bang them in from 30 yards like Pogba doesn't mean he is shit or average. His crosses are possibly one of the best in Europe atm and we witnessed some of it 1st hand when he hit the bar early on against us, he has been doing that regularly for Atletico-but most of you don't watch Liga so you wouldn't know. Koke is better than Willian, Oscar, Salah and Schurrle atm. I would say he is even on par with Mata/Cazorla based on this season's form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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