Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Fuck Mourinho we want Mata to start I cant believe how fucking arrogant he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 The lack of respect for Mata is astonishing to be honest, he has not played himself out of the team so Mourinho should go fuck himself his not bigger than CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 The lack of respect for Mata is astonishing to be honest, he has not played himself out of the team so Mourinho should go fuck himself his not bigger than CFC Mata is not bigger than CFC either mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Well, you all can moan all you want, but the truth is Mourinho agrees with me and you will have to suck it up! :wank: :wank: :wank: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Mata is not bigger than CFC either mate.I know that but Mata has earned his place in the team buy scoring 20 goals last season and giving 30 assists, he has not played himself out of the team and also the reason we are lacking creativity is simple his not in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I think Mata is the better player but I pick Oscar because it is obvious that with the way we want to play Oscar is the better fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I know that but Mata has earned his place in the team buy scoring 20 goals last season and giving 30 assists, he has not played himself out of the team and also the reason we are lacking creativity is simple his not in the teamThat was last season. He has not played himself IN to this team. We are a completely different team than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar92 66 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 WorkRateWorkRateWorkRate... For God's sake! People keep repeating it like it were the magical secret of the Beautiful Game. And they are playmakers! I would take talent over anything at any time. Brazil is having this fucking crisis for the lack of CAMs, problem that started with people preferring height over technique, strength rather than creativite... And now this even in Europe. Ok defense is important, but not as much to give that much advantage to the key player of the midfield. Pep even played Bayern with schweinsteiger, THIAGO and Kross. THIAGO coming from behind dammit. THIAGO. Ok, we have a differnt team, other style and all, they may not play that way in dangerous matchs, but we have people here speaking about workrate over talent on the player that must orchestrate plays, do the rhythm of the game and hold possession. Like it were the most important thing. By this logic we wouldn't play Ronaldinho Gaucho(at his best) for his lack of pressing, he does not place well in our Team. LOL. Why can't we have one player to not be responsible for defense?Again, as obvious by my avatar i like Oscar. But he is not absolute over Mata at CAM, he is not ready, at least for now and for me. Hell i even think that he shoudn't play as a no10 as i said before... For now i keep my idea that he is a DLP. Also, good to say that i'm not thinking that i'm the senior of truth and i may change my mind and believe in others truth's later.For the brazilians users: Desculpa amigos, esse rage com a pressão deve ser por passar o tempo todo vendo o Tite fazer todos os jogadores, do Gil até o Pato, Guerrero, Douclas e Romarinho... Voltando até a linha de fundo a todo momento! PQP não aguento mais essa porra! hahahahaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Odd statements from Jose in regards to Juan. I never came away from the losses blaming Mata. And yet he had nothing to say about David Luiz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cech's helmet 220 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Has Mourinho been watching us last season? how idiotic can you be to put your best player in this club for the last 2 years on the bench? Oscar is nowhere close to Mata in terms of creativity/passing/finishing. Oscar has speed/work rate/stamina but the better player is Mata. Mata is a natural. he's not fast enough to play on the wings, he's no Di Maria/Bale. a no10 is a no10, and right now Mou is asking Mata to change his game? wtf is wrong with you Jose? Oscar should be playing deep in CM next to Ramires/Mikel. he's definitely leaving next year. the most idiotic thing Mou has ever done, that's what you get when you buy useless players like Schurrle/Willian. we have to see these amateurs fighting for a place vs our best player. laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Well, you all can moan all you want, but the truth is Mourinho agrees with me and you will have to suck it up! :wank: :wank: :wank:unfortunately the results dont agree with the both of u and THAT is the most important thing. the best thing for cfc are the results and wins and mata is the best for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar92 66 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 unfortunately the results dont agree with the both of u and THAT is the most important thing. the best thing for cfc are the results and wins and mata is the best for that. But of course, one position in which both players are good is the only reason to why we're losing our games. Mata or Oscar is not our only problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 But of course, one position in which both players are good is the only reason to why we're losing our games. Mata or Oscar is not our only problem.goal keeper - samedefense - samepivot midfield - samestriker - same (or as efficient as last year)the main thing that has changed is the coach and the way he is playing oscar over mata. so while they might not be our ONLY problem, they are defintely one of the main problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Has Mourinho been watching us last season? how idiotic can you be to put your best player in this club for the last 2 years on the bench? Oscar is nowhere close to Mata in terms of creativity/passing/finishing. Oscar has speed/work rate/stamina but the better player is Mata. Mata is a natural. he's not fast enough to play on the wings, he's no Di Maria/Bale. a no10 is a no10, and right now Mou is asking Mata to change his game? wtf is wrong with you Jose? Oscar should be playing deep in CM next to Ramires/Mikel. he's definitely leaving next year. the most idiotic thing Mou has ever done, that's what you get when you buy useless players like Schurrle/Willian. we have to see these amateurs fighting for a place vs our best player. laughable.Both of those amateurs are making our team better and actually giving us wingers.I'm sorry, but whether or not we had them Mata is in no way good enough to be a winger for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 goal keeper - samedefense - samepivot midfield - samestriker - same (or as efficient as last year)the main thing that has changed is the coach and the way he is playing oscar over mata. so while they might not be our ONLY problem, they are defintely one of the main problems. If Mata was in form I would understand your argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Both of those amateurs are making our team better and actually giving us wingers.I'm sorry, but whether or not we had them Mata is in no way good enough to be a winger for us.true. because when mata played on the wings for us, we just won the CL and FA cup, so he is definitely not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If Mata was in form I would understand your argumentu dont get back form by playing some1 just for 2 games in 6 matches. moreover, in mata's case class triumphs forms. i mean lets take everton game for an example. we might not have scored in the 55 minutes but we created ample oppurtunities. we were in control of the ball and the game, but as soon as mata was taken off, everything went downhill. and even though mata was the main culprit in conceding the winner to basel, i still feel we would not have been in that situation if he had started. the point is - we play better with mata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol123 175 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Mata's always played a free role during his time here. If he can't adjust to Mourinho's rigid system then there isn't a place for him at Chelsea. Simple as thatI'd love for him to prove me wrong though. Seems like such a genuine guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 true. because when mata played on the wings for us, we just won the CL and FA cup, so he is definitely not good enough. That champions league where, if you didnt read the teamsheet, you wouldnt have known he was playing?Come on let us be honest with ourselves here. Schurlle and Willian are hardly amateurs, and much better on the wing than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Depends what you want from your number 10. I don't like Mourinho's quotes though. We'll see how the season pans but if he's being turned into a bit part player he should leave for his own sake. Mata isn't anywhere near as effective on the wings as he is as a number 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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