communicate 2,703 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 ok, lol, I am happy for him, but lets not start silly comparisons, hopefully they will both score lots.I said this a couple times, etoo movement is just fantastic, he just does not have that extra sharpness anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I thought he had a good game, how many times did he get dispossessed or turnover the ball?I paid close attention to this, he doesn't lose the ball often indeed, and his first touch is excellent. Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I paid close attention to this, he doesn't lose the ball often indeed, and his first touch is excellent.Excellent really?? His touch on the first goal was terrible luckily Eden was there. Hopefully more goals to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Excellent really?? His touch on the first goal was terrible luckily Eden was there. Hopefully more goals to come.Yeah he lost the ball there while trying to go round the keeper, but i'm mainly talking of when he receives the ball with his back to goal, or when he pulls wide to receive the ball - it usually sticks to his boot. Barbara and The Skipper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hmm not sure about that, each to their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I voted Eto motm with Marshall!Also, was it because the goalkeeper bounce the ball on the floor that the goal was allowed? I remember Henry and RVP doing similar things, but the gks didnt bounce the ball on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Tbh the rules say the keeper is still in control of the ball even if he is bouncing the ball, but good for him to try and get the ball in the first placeYup. Goal should not have counted, ref should really know that. I understand it is forbidden to attack the goalie when he kicks the ball, cos this is really dangerous, But at times it is really difficult to tell whether a keeper bounces the ball, drops it or throws it into his pass. IMO the 6s rule should apply to bouncing but not the "under control" rule. For a goalie, there is no need to bounce the ball at all so there is no reason why that movement should be under protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The goalie could possibly have been sent off for being out if his area, but they 'didn't' see it, Cech would have got booked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It's not just about the goals, his movement was top class throughout the game. He always managed to create some space for himself which is arguably the biggest issue our strikers have had this season. His passing and link-up play was also very good. He created several chances like the one that Mata mishit early on and the brilliant pass that put hazard through behind the defense at the start of the second half. So, yeah, I think he was excellent today. It's great that all three of our striker have hit some form lately. ChelseasMessiah and nadavTKL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Yeah he lost the ball there while trying to go round the keeper, but i'm mainly talking of when he receives the ball with his back to goal, or when he pulls wide to receive the ball - it usually sticks to his boot.I might have been a penalty if Eden wasn't there to strike home the advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It's not just about the goals, I beg to differ! Beating players; setting up others; holding up the ball; closing down defenders; making space are secondary skills for a striker - first and foremost put the ball in the back in the end as many times as possible.Today Eto'o did his job "well", he could still improve - more of the same and I'd be happy. Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 He was Excellent for me, what more do you expect from a striker in EPL against a team that put eleven men behind the ball. A hatrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I beg to differ! Beating players; setting up others; holding up the ball; closing down defenders; making space are secondary skills for a striker - first and foremost put the ball in the back in the end as many times as possible.Today Eto'o did his job "well", he could still improve - more of the same and I'd be happy. In 1990 maybe, but today strikers are first and foremost players in the team. They have defensive duties. Their offensive duties are not limited to scoring but to linking up with other attacking players and creating chancing for others. All managers prefer a complete striker than a poacher. Of course there are exceptions where the striker's ability to score by far out weighs anything else like Falcao at Athletico, but those are just examples. Most strikers that are just poachers find themselves on the bench and get brought on when the team is chasing a game. semiller1313 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 In 1990 maybe, but today strikers are first and foremost players in the team. They have defensive duties. Their offensive duties are not limited to scoring but to linking up with other attacking players and creating chancing for others. All managers prefer a complete striker than a poacher. Of course there are exceptions where the striker's ability to score by far out weighs anything else like Falcao at Athletico, but those are just examples. Most strikers that are just poachers find themselves on the bench and get brought on when the team is chasing a game. All managers prefer a striker who's scoring goals as opposed to one that isn't scoring goals - which is my whole point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Even though, Oto´o scored today, but I still think he has not showed much of scoring, so far.Whether, he will start scoring, it remains to be seen. The_Flash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 All managers prefer a striker who's scoring goals as opposed to one that isn't scoring goals - which is my whole point. No, not necessarily. Take Fulham for example, Jol picks Berbatove for his overall game play rather than Bent who is a much more prolific goal scorer. Same with Long over Oddemwingie at WBA last season. Welbeck over Chicharito at united. Walters over Jones at Stoke....etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 All managers prefer a striker who's scoring goals as opposed to one that isn't scoring goals - which is my whole point. I don't think mourinho signed eto'o to be the most prolific striker in Epl neither was his intention to sign rooney about being the most prolific, but the other attributes they possess made rooney and eto'o his strong favourites and so far eto'o has been showing those other qualities but has started scoring also and mourinho knows eto'o may not be as prolific but will still get his fair share of goals and blend with the team. He is forging a telepathic combo with our attacking midfielders, who cares who puts the ball in the net? Eto'o will surely score enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 No, not necessarily. Take Fulham for example, Jol picks Berbatove for his overall game play rather than Bent who is a much more prolific goal scorer. Same with Long over Oddemwingie at WBA last season. Welbeck over Chicharito at united. Walters over Jones at Stoke....etc Firstly Berbatov is as prolific goal scorer in the EPL as Bent Long wasn't starting infront of Oddemwingie - they were rotated or one was played on the flanks quite often. Welbeck plays on the wing for United, Hernandez is on the bench because he cannot play on the wingThere is nothing much separating Jones and Walters as far as goals are concerned - both are pretty crap I don't think mourinho signed eto'o to be the most prolific striker in Epl neither was his intention to sign rooney about being the most prolific, but the other attributes they possess made rooney and eto'o his strong favourites and so far eto'o has been showing those other qualities but has started scoring also and mourinho knows eto'o may not be as prolific but will still get his fair share of goals and blend with the team. He is forging a telepathic combo with our attacking midfielders, who cares he puts the ball in the net? Eto'o will surely score enough though. Yeah I'm sure the fact that Eto'o and Rooney have a history of scoring goals is not one of the reasons Jose was looking at both players and we were looking at Cavani before them. If Jose felt that they wouldn't score goals first and foremost he wouldn't have gone for either player. I don't remember if there was a club that has ever won the EPL without at least one of their strikers scoring double digits of goals. As soon as Drogba lost consistency in the League we dropped off in the League. We need a striker to score his share of goals otherwise it's pointless to even have one. Three years of Torres has made people forget what a striker's job is, trying to justify his awful finishing with link-up play; understanding with the three amigos; holding up the ball; passing well etc None of those things would make him a success scoring loads of goals will do that. A striker is expected to score goals not go 6 months or 24 hours without finding the net. Eto'o did his job today, so in the he deserves another start next weekend. Reddish-Blue, Tomo and didierforever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Firstly Berbatov is as prolific goal scorer in the EPL as Bent Long wasn't starting infront of Oddemwingie - they were rotated or one was played on the flanks quite often. Welbeck plays on the wing for United, Hernandez is on the bench because he cannot play on the wingThere is nothing much separating Jones and Walters as far as goals are concerned - both are pretty crapYeah I'm sure the fact that Eto'o and Rooney have a history of scoring goals is not one of the reasons Jose was looking at both players and we were looking at Cavani before them. If Jose felt that they wouldn't score goals first and foremost he wouldn't have gone for either player. I don't remember if there was a club that has ever won the EPL without at least one of their strikers scoring double digits of goals. As soon as Drogba lost consistency in the League we dropped off in the League. We need a striker to score his share of goals otherwise it's pointless to even have one. Three years of Torres has made people forget what a striker's job is, trying to justify his awful finishing with link-up play; understanding with the three amigos; holding up the ball; passing well etc None of those things would make him a success scoring loads of goals will do that. A striker is expected to score goals not go 6 months or 24 hours without finding the net. Eto'o did his job today, so in the he deserves another start next weekend. It was quite clear that mourinho wasn't officially interested in cavani, he said it himself. If he wanted mainly goals he would have gone for cavani/lewandowski/Jackson martinez/sturridge(Lol) he would even have resisted sending lukaku on loan but no he wanted rooney then eto'o, who can give goals but also other attributes which the others do not really possess but he knows they are not currently as prolific as the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,732 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Took Torres over 700 minutes to get a goal for CFC and 14 appearances, Eto'o has made 5 appearances and people were already righting him off as not good enough, wanting Torres to start ahead of him. Stick it to the hatersI agree that the critisicm of Eto'o's performances was premature, but how does giving stick to Torres compensate?You also have to remember, most people saw Eto'o as a 32 yr old past-it player when he came here. Torres arrived under different circumstances. Naturally the level of patience shown to both would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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