Willian

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Willian does put fear into opposition. I am not sure how you gathered that conclusion. Even players that don't score like Townsend, full backs hate coming up against direct and fast players. I am a massive fan of Bolasie but you do realise Bolasie is known for the same thing Willian is doing. A lot of dribbling, going past players but poor end product...

What dribbling from willian?

Bolassie might not have willians technical qualities and plays for a smaller team but Willian is not a direct player at all so he won't give people as much scare as the former. He has better technique than a lot of players but doesn't give defenders anything to think about because he doesn't go into one on one situations and beat his marker.

Willian doesn't score or assist because he doesn't put himself in enough of those situations. How many times have you seen willian dribble past his marker like montero or recently pedro??

Willian just does stepovers, runs and crosses to no one.

He needs to be far more direct to have better attacking stats, that is the only way.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Tbh, neither Oscar or Willian are adequete number 10 for a club trying to be Europe's best, imo. But it's not the major concern in light of the current problems we still have, next summer it should be a priority imo. Depending on how Coutinho does this season, it's worth looking at him.

[sapper245 40]

I'm a big Willian fan.... his play in central midfield yesterday was excellent, ok he missed a sitter but so did Costa. he missed 2 chances right opposite where i was sitting in the second half. He was lively and link up play and distribution was good as was his tracking back. I think Oscar will struggle to get his spot back.

[Stats 7,056]

What dribbling from willian?

Bolassie might not have willians technical qualities and plays for a smaller team but Willian is not a direct player at all so he won't give people as much scare as the former. He has better technique than a lot of players but doesn't give defenders anything to think about because he doesn't go into one on one situations and beat his marker.

Willian doesn't score or assist because he doesn't put himself in enough of those situations. How many times have you seen willian dribble past his marker like montero or recently pedro??

Willian just does stepovers, runs and crosses to no one.

He needs to be far more direct to have better attacking stats, that is the only way.

Not as direct as Bolasie or Townsend but he regularly takes on his man and gets past them a lot. Just his play in the final third that lets him down. I think he would be quite high on the list in the PL with most successful take ons. Not at the top but would not be surprised if he was quite high on the list. Can't find the stats.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Not as direct as Bolasie or Townsend but he regularly takes on his man and gets past them a lot. Just his play in the final third that lets him down. I think he would be quite high on the list in the PL with most successful take ons. Not at the top but would not be surprised if he was quite high on the list. Can't find the stats.

I completely disagree that willian does any dribbling on the right wing, he may run but never actually beats his marker. I actually think ivanovic has a better chance of dribbling on the right wing than Willian.

But Willian in the middle is a totally different player, even though he still doesn't score.

[Stats 7,056]

I completely disagree that willian does any dribbling on the right wing, he may run but never actually beats his marker. I actually think ivanovic has a better chance of dribbling on the right wing than Willian.

But Willian in the middle is a totally different player, even though he still doesn't score.

Well, I think we are seeing two different things then. Willian is very good at getting past his man. Not on Hazard's level but he is quite good at it. As for Ivanovic, I know thta may have been sarcasm but Willian is probably the second best player in our team with take ons. Now Pedro is there, probably third but atm, stats wise, it is probably Hazard then Willian for us. I see Willian similarly to Chamberlain. Both quality players. Chamberlain is a much better dribbler, don't get me wrong but both can beat the FB easily. Just need to improve in the final third.

[bethos1 802]

Well, I think we are seeing two different things then. Willian is very good at getting past his man. Not on Hazard's level but he is quite good at it. As for Ivanovic, I know thta may have been sarcasm but Willian is probably the second best player in our team with take ons. Now Pedro is there, probably third but atm, stats wise, it is probably Hazard then Willian for us. I see Willian similarly to Chamberlain. Both quality players. Chamberlain is a much better dribbler, don't get me wrong but both can beat the FB easily. Just need to improve in the final third.

What's the point in dribbling if your end product is shit? If he can't improve in that area I'd rather see Oscar play there.

[sapper245 40]

What's the point in dribbling if your end product is shit? If he can't improve in that area I'd rather see Oscar play there.

Bit like most wingers these days.

[Spike 12,049]

Not as annoying as referring to a player who is world renowned as simply being known as 'Pedro' to Pedro Rodriguez.

Not as annoying as a certain member that is obsessed with something so asinine as a topic title on an internet to the point where he can't stop moaning and worrying about it. Relax your autism, Captain Sperglord.

Go have a cry in the Lampard thread. Call him a Judas, traitor etc. That should cheer you up, get those autistic urges out of your system. Don't worry too much about it though, you will get over it and then there will be something equally as stupid you will obsess and fixate over in the coming weeks.

[Stats 7,056]

Tbh, neither Oscar or Willian are adequete number 10 for a club trying to be Europe's best, imo. But it's not the major concern in light of the current problems we still have, next summer it should be a priority imo. Depending on how Coutinho does this season, it's worth looking at him.

Coutinho is fantastic isn't he. Has improved his goal threat immensely as well. Tortured Arsenal so far. However we won't be able to get him like City got Sterling. Coutinho just signed a new long contract and they will not sell him at any price to a domestic rival. That being said, he is a great player and he is only 23. There was a debate before of who was better, Oscar or Coutinho. That is not even a debate now.

[lucio 5,418]

What's with this autism bs? A bit unpleasant?

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Coutinho is fantastic isn't he. Has improved his goal threat immensely as well. Tortured Arsenal so far. However we won't be able to get him like City got Sterling. Coutinho just signed a new long contract and they will not sell him at any price to a domestic rival. That being said, he is a great player and he is only 23. There was a debate before of who was better, Oscar or Coutinho. That is not even a debate now.

Agreed mate. When he first went to Liverpool I wasn't sold one bit, I knew him from Inter and thought he was one of the best young talents around and he seemed to have stagnated but I guess he just got hidden behind the magic of Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling etc. But he's certainly stepped up to the creative plate this season and towards the end of last season - Dunga is doing him a favour by not selecting him for Brazil lol. (I'd be interested in what @Henrique, @Barbara have to say about this)

I mean you say that, but Liverpool are a selling club aren't they? Torres, Suarez, Sterling, every season they seem to be losing one top player at a time. It's the effect of not being in the Champions League! But you're right, they'll ask for an excess of £50m and he's not worth that yet.

[Spike 12,049]

What's with this autism bs? A bit unpleasant?

This forum is unpleasant. I'm just doing my best to fit in and offend as many people as possible.

I hate everyone equally.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

This forum is unpleasant. I'm just doing my best to fit in and offend as many people as possible.

I hate everyone equally.

Moderating.

Moderating done right.

[Term-X 7,891]

What's with this autism bs? A bit unpleasant?

Don't worry mate, I've seen what this guy looks like, can't take anything he says seriously knowing who's typing it.

Imagine trying to dissect who somebody 'is' their 'core' based on postings from an 'anonymous' member of an internet forum.

[Spike 12,049]

Don't worry mate, I've seen what this guy looks like, can't take anything he says seriously knowing who's typing it.

Imagine trying to dissect who somebody 'is' their 'core' based on postings from an 'anonymous' member of an internet forum.

'He' is seen a picture of 'me' ergo he knows 'who' I 'am'. If it were that easy, we'd be soul mates. Unless we are, of course.

Personally, I can't take you seriously because of the content you post.

Anyway back on topic before I give you a warning about thread derailment [not that I would ever do such a thing].

[HRiver 1,512]

Why would anyone support Willian? He is slow, not very creative, not even in the top 5 of our team in terms of skills, he can't shoot, his passing/crossing is way below average, and to top it all off he slows down the tempo massively. Not to mention he has this grumpy/unimpressed look on his face all the time, as if it's somebody else's fault he can't finish from less than ten yards out.

[Stats 7,056]

Why would anyone support Willian? He is slow, not very creative, not even in the top 5 of our team in terms of skills, he can't shoot, his passing/crossing is way below average, and to top it all off he slows down the tempo massively. Not to mention he has this grumpy/unimpressed look on his face all the time, as if it's somebody else's fault he can't finish from less than ten yards out.

I stopped reading from there