🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Izzy Brown

[lionsden 4,689]

This further proves that some people will defend the indefensible when it comes to Jose. There's no way that shocking statement can be justified. Do some posters realise that they don't have to defend Mourinho all the time. sometimes it's ok to just sit back and accept a dumb statement for what it really is and not try to rationalize it.

[Sheva. 5,373]

This further proves that some people will defend the indefensible when it comes to Jose. There's no way that shocking statement can be justified. Do some posters realise that they don't have to defend Mourinho all the time. sometimes it's ok to just sit back and accept a dumb statement for what it really is and not try to rationalize it.

He'd have put Zouma in defense and our prolific RB beside DD.

I don't need to defend Mourinho but pumping the ball long to Drogba and Zouma/Ivan probably made more sense, than adding a young attacking midfielder against those Qpr thugs.

[Leif 6,006]

I don't need to defend Mourinho but pumping the ball long to Drogba and Zouma/Ivan probably made more sense, than adding a young attacking midfielder against those Qpr thugs.

VBUT HE ISNTTTT ANA TATACKING MIDFIELDER JOSE LIEESD D TO YOU

[Siwy_CFC 7]

Of course if Jose put Izzy in squad against QPR in thug game it isnt good move. But in fact i'm really impressed by his game in UEFA YOUTH LEAGUE, he is very fast and good technique. Kind of his play is very similar to Thierry Henry, isnt it?

[Sheva. 5,373]

VBUT HE ISNTTTT ANA TATACKING MIDFIELDER JOSE LIEESD D TO YOU

Really? I'm judging from preseason when he played mostly out wide.

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

Really? I'm judging from preseason when he played mostly out wide.

Izzy plays on the wing for youth team too.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

He'd have put Zouma in defense and our prolific RB beside DD.

I don't need to defend Mourinho but pumping the ball long to Drogba and Zouma/Ivan probably made more sense, than adding a young attacking midfielder against those Qpr thugs.

Well, Brown is physical player himself. He's fast and has lot of energy. And he showed again that he has very good finish in him.

Utmost better than launching a long balls to Zouma. You really don't think that Zouma would actually do something effective ? In theory you could even put Cech upfront to collect long balls.

I don't even know why I discuss this. Somehow Mourinho put Schurrle upfront at Old Trafford even though "he's more of a winger" instead of giving a go to David Luiz. How can anyone explain this to me that he used a winger instead of defender upfront ?

It's baffling that comment like this can still be excused but lionsden hit the nail.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

Why bring on Brown in the 92nd minute instead of Zouma? I don't see what everyone is getting so bitchy over.

If Izzy came on and got injured everyone would be slating Mourinho. Jose knew he was going to play in the final and probably knew how much it meant to him so didn't want to make a completely unnecessary risk, but wanted him just in case there was an injury early in the game. It makes complete and utter sense not to bring him on.

As for people still listening to what Jose says in press conferences you need your heads checking

[Gilvorak 3,734]

The only explanation for this sort of blind loyalty and delusion is Mourinho is the reason some of you became Chelsea fans otherwise I don't understand it.

And who said he has to bring him on during the 80 minute mark? It was clear Didier wasn't up to the task as early as the first 15 minutes of yesterday. He could have brought on Izzy much earlier.

And it's always it isn't the "right time" with some of you, when is this mythical "right time" to bring through youth exactly?

[Sheva. 5,373]

The only explanation for this sort of blind loyalty and delusion is Mourinho is the reason some of you became Chelsea fans otherwise I don't understand it.

And who said he has to bring him on during the 80 minute mark? It was clear Didier wasn't up to the task as early as the first 15 minutes of yesterday. He could have brought on Izzy much earlier.

And it's always it isn't the "right time" with some of you, when is this mythical "right time" to bring through youth exactly?

So you wanted him to take off Drogba for a young player who isn't even a real striker, hasn't even played with the senior team, in a rivalry match away from home where even the soon to be POTY couldn't do much for long periods.

There's a reason we're just fans arguing over this and there are people getting paid to make better decisions.

[lionsden 4,689]

So you wanted him to take off Drogba for a young player who isn't even a real striker, hasn't even played with the senior team, in a rivalry match away from home where even the soon to be POTY couldn't do much for long periods.

There's a reason we're just fans arguing over this and there are people getting paid to make better decisions.

Some Man utd fans too thought Ferguson, arguably the greatest manager of all time, made the right decision by playing Raphael, a right back in midfield in a game where Utd had major injury crisis in midfield and a certain youth midfielder named Paul Pogba was on the bench. A game that Pogba still reference as the final nail in the coffin that prompted him to leave the club. So even the best managers do get it wrong sometimes.

I'm not even arguing whether Izzy should have featured or not since I don't really rate him but just speaking in general terms regarding Jose's mentality towards youth. His approach will likely either stagnate most of our best youngsters or force them out of the club eventually which we will likely later regret.

[ulvhedin 526]

So you wanted him to take off Drogba for a young player who isn't even a real striker, hasn't even played with the senior team, in a rivalry match away from home where even the soon to be POTY couldn't do much for long periods.

There's a reason we're just fans arguing over this and there are people getting paid to make better decisions.

Thats one point of our disappointment - why didn't he bring from sqitzerland full time striker who scored more than 30 goals in youth teams this season?

[Sheva. 5,373]

Some Man utd fans too thought Ferguson, arguably the greatest manager of all time, made the right decision by playing Raphael, a right back in midfield in a game where Utd had major injury crisis in midfield and a certain youth midfielder named Paul Pogba was on the bench. A game that Pogba still reference as the final nail in the coffin that prompted him to leave the club. So even the best managers do get it wrong sometimes.

I'm not even arguing whether Izzy should have featured or not since I don't really rate him but just speaking in general terms regarding Jose's mentality towards youth. His approach will likely either stagnate most of our best youngsters or force them out of the club eventually which we will likely later regret.

But isn't this expected from Mou? I knew from minute one Izzy would not play unless we're up 4-0.

It's the same thing with style of play, Roman knew exactly what he was rehiring, Mourinho is not going to suddenly abandon what has brought him where he is.

Back to youth though, the best that can be hoped for is 1 player genuinely proving himself as a reliable squad player and getting starts here and there.

Ake looked like that player at the start of the season, but he's fallen off now since his injury which is a shame.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Pretty sure Izzy would prefer 90 in the Youth League final over a 5 minute cameo and then being considered too knackered to play the next day

[mikeholiday 209]

Wanted : New Manager

Requirements: Win the League. Develop youngsters into senior squad members.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,075]

...And it's always it isn't the "right time" with some of you, when is this mythical "right time" to bring through youth exactly?

When Jose, not you or me, decides.

[didierforever 7,349]

Wanted : New Manager

Requirements: Win the League. Develop youngsters into senior squad members.

we all know the requirements. name me one of the managers to be able to do this.

[mikeholiday 209]

we all know the requirements. name me one of the managers to be able to do this.

was being sarcastic...

[TheOneChan95 225]

Well, Brown is physical player himself. He's fast and has lot of energy. And he showed again that he has very good finish in him.

Utmost better than launching a long balls to Zouma. You really don't think that Zouma would actually do something effective ? In theory you could even put Cech upfront to collect long balls.

I don't even know why I discuss this. Somehow Mourinho put Schurrle upfront at Old Trafford even though "he's more of a winger" instead of giving a go to David Luiz. How can anyone explain this to me that he used a winger instead of defender upfront ?

It's baffling that comment like this can still be excused but lionsden hit the nail.

Physical but no Zouma or Ivanovic. It's a perfectly sensible move at that point. Although I kind of wonder why keepers are not used for this kinda thing tbh. I always wondered what would happen if you put someone in the NBA with an insane vertical like Dwight Howard just to launch crosses at his head.

And I don't understand that bit about Shirley. He played as a striker before, and has a cold finish in him so it's not the worst idea to try playing him upfront.

[LondonsFinest 692]

So Izzy Brown, who has never as never been bullied by a physical defender like Clint Hill, Onuoha and Caulker, and has also never played football at the biggest level, had to replace Drogba, who needs one moment and he will make it count and also manages to torment defenders, rather than the other way around. I mean, who the fuck is Izzy Brown, for God's sake? If it was Solanke, okay, he's scored a lot, and even then I wouldn't be bitching so much. The fact, that a part from the goal, the only interesting thing from our attacks, came from the Drogba flick at a corner proves enough.
Okay, I can criticise Jose for Ake, who for me, could've done great at DM when Matic was missing, but in the end we won both games. As long as we win, I could care less, if Izzy Brown, Michael Stoch, Franko Di Santo, or even My mum is at the bench. The most important thing, at this stage, is 3 points, nothing more, nothing less. If we manage to secure the title, the youth will get their chance.