Marco van Ginkel

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I think it is over unfortunately.

Championship or Vitesse it'll be

Sigh...

[Barbara 15,149]

He is still injured? Can't we just recall him and let him recover with our medical staff and maybe give him some minutes when he's fit again? Seemed promising whenever I've watched him play.

I hope that's what happens if Milan want to end the loan... we have a great medical department and he may end up being useful towards the end of the season. When he's fit I like him better than every pivot option we have in the bench.

Key word though is 'fit'.

Loan back to Vitesse? Having him with the U21s for the rest of the season practically ends his career with us.

Exaggeration

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Exaggeration

Is it? If he stays here, he is NOT getting any playing time, let's not kid ourselves. He's not getting in the team for any of the remaining match of the season ahead of Mikel or Rami, let alone Matic or Cesc, unless we win the league with a couple of matches to spare, and even then, id I'm honest, I'd rather we play Ake who has earned his place with the first team.

And that in turn means that he will either leave or have to go on loan again next season and try to impress again because we simply will not go into the season relying on a player who has played almost zero football for two seasons.

I have to agree with WHS, I think his chances of making it here are getting slimmer by the day.

[Barbara 15,149]

Is it? If he stays here, he is NOT getting any playing time, let's not kid ourselves. He's not getting in the team for any of the remaining match of the season ahead of Mikel or Rami, let alone Matic or Cesc, unless we win the league with a couple of matches to spare, and even then, id I'm honest, I'd rather we play Ake who has earned his place with the first team.

And that in turn means that he will either leave or have to go on loan again next season and try to impress again because we simply will not go into the season relying on a player who has played almost zero football for two seasons.

I have to agree with WHS, I think his chances of making it here are getting slimmer by the day.

four months without playing won't break his career here. If he has quality enough and is able to keep himself injury free coming next season, he'll have a chance.

The part I think you exaggerated is saying that if he comes here and doesn't play his career here is over.

I know Ake has earned something, but don't forget football clubs are companies and as such they have to see that all their assets go up. I think Marco is a better player as it stands (not talking about ceiling, talent, etc, just comparing currently both players and Marco's experience), but even supposing they're on the same level now, the club will try to make money from him if he isn't good enough for us to keep him, which means they'll treat his career better than just letting him rot and let it go. I think it's too early to say he'll never make it here, although I agree his chances are getting smaller.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

four months without playing won't break his career here. If he has quality enough and is able to keep himself injury free coming next season, he'll have a chance.

The part I think you exaggerated is saying that if he comes here and doesn't play his career here is over.

I know Ake has earned something, but don't forget football clubs are companies and as such they have to see that all their assets go up. I think Marco is a better player as it stands (not talking about ceiling, talent, etc, just comparing currently both players and Marco's experience), but even supposing they're on the same level now, the club will try to make money from him if he isn't good enough for us to keep him, which means they'll treat his career better than just letting him rot and let it go. I think it's too early to say he'll never make it here, although I agree his chances are getting smaller.

The issue is that it's not just the four months, it's the season and a half before the four months.

Of course the club will be looking to increase his value, but the priority remains to win the next match which means putting out the best team available. I doubt even Ake will be playing more than 3 or 4 matches for the remainder of the season. This is actually why I am certain we will loan him out if he returns.

Things can change incredibly quick in football. A PL club shows interest, he goes there and nails down a starting spot and he's suddenly in serious contention to get a squad player role here next season.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

AC Milan boss Inzaghi said: “A decision will be made.

“He knows I can’t assure him playing time.”

It seems he will be back and then loaned out to other club, although we have one place left by Mark

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

had a promising first half for milan vs lazio today. Very combative. Switched off for tactical reasons after they conceded 2 goals in 4 mins.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Get him back in the squad. He can't be any worse than the other options we have right now.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Get him back in the squad. He can't be any worse than the other options we have right now.

Not sure we need a player who can't stand out even in a below average Milan squad.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Not sure we need a player who can't stand out even in a below average Milan squad.

He could have one leg and still be better than Mikel, let's be fair.

[Myself 793]

Not sure we need a player who can't stand out even in a below average Milan squad.

You mean a player who just came out of a serious injury and has played about 4 games all season.

Sell Mikel, promote MvG or Ake

[Daniel1980 1,425]

You mean a player who just came out of a serious injury and has played about 4 games all season.

Sell Mikel, promote MvG or Ake

I'd like to agree, but I've seen no evidence that MvG is ready to be promoted. He's 22 already--just a year younger than Oscar--and still barely has any experience and doesn't seem to have much confidence. I don't see MvG having any future at Chelsea unless he steps up and has a very good season at Milan. This is his chance. I hope he grabs it.

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

He could have one leg and still be better than Mikel, let's be fair.

Mikel is a tough DMF, Cornelius is a box-to-box, it's pointless to compare them.. MvG is more like Ramires. Anyway, he was crap today, seriously very weak.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

I'd like to agree, but I've seen no evidence that MvG is ready to be promoted. He's 22 already--just a year younger than Oscar--and still barely has any experience. I don't see MvG having any future at Chelsea unless he steps up and has a very good season at Milan. This is his chance. I hope he grabs it.

The Milan loan deal was pointless to begin with...he was basically the sweetener so that we could offload Torres...

He should have been loaned out to a club with a track record of developing/improving youngsters..like one of the Portugal clubs

[Jase 43,479]

I'd like to agree, but I've seen no evidence that MvG is ready to be promoted. He's 22 already--just a year younger than Oscar--and still barely has any experience and doesn't seem to have much confidence. I don't see MvG having any future at Chelsea unless he steps up and has a very good season at Milan. This is his chance. I hope he grabs it.

Should just cancel his loan deal with Milan and send him to somewhere he can develop. Milan are in a mess right now (no thanks to Galliani) and with Inzaghi being under pressure to achieve their targets this season (they haven't won a single league game in 2015), doubt he can afford to integrate young players into the first team when they desperately need the results on the pitch.