Luiz Gustavo

[Wavy Crockett 190]

well we have been in need of a REAL good DM for several seasons now. Ramires is more box-to-box runner and not a natural DM. Lampard is an attacking midfielder. Essien didnt look sharp at all after his return from injury, will be interesting to see how he does now under Mourinho and after half a season at Madrid. Mikel has never been consistently good enough unfortunately. Romeu out on loan.

Selling Mikel for say 10M euro and bringing in LG for 20 would be a twiffic bit of business.

Are there any English DMs on the market?

[lucio 5,418]

well we have been in need of a REAL good DM for several seasons now. Ramires is more box-to-box runner and not a natural DM. Lampard is an attacking midfielder. Essien didnt look sharp at all after his return from injury, will be interesting to see how he does now under Mourinho and after half a season at Madrid. Mikel has never been consistently good enough unfortunately. Romeu out on loan.

Selling Mikel for say 10M euro and bringing in LG for 20 would be a twiffic bit of business.

Are there any English DMs on the market?

maybe pub team level players like barry and parker

[Dion 2,476]

I believe Gustavo is as good as Mikel supporters claim Mikel is at defending, and as good as Mikel actually is at attacking.

In other words, not sure we'd be able to use him well in the current system with the 2 mids.

I think he's better in both defending and attacking.

[Wavy Crockett 190]

unfortunately you're prolly right

I just think it's good to have an english spine in the team but f it this is about having a world class side challenging for all trophies

[robsblubot 3,595]

I think he's better in both defending and attacking.

like I wrote, no doubts about the defending part, but not sure about attacking; haven't seen him doing much attacking wise.

I have not been following him at B. Munich though, so it might very well be Scolari instructed him to play almost as a holding mid for Brazil.

[Dion 2,476]

like I wrote, no doubts about the defending part, but not sure about attacking; haven't seen him doing much attacking wise.

I have not been following him at B. Munich though, so it might very well be Scolari instructed him to play almost as a holding mid for Brazil.

Yes, he was the most commited to defense between him and Paulinho. But Gustavo has some great deal of passing skills, which helps building attacks tremendously. Just watch some of his games for Bayern before they signed Martinez or even look at his passing stats, he's a beast - not only defensively sound, but also has an eye for a pass.

He was the player I wanted to see the most in our NT when they changed coaches, Felipão gladly answered my prayers.

[Strike 7,533]

unfortunately you're prolly right

I just think it's good to have an english spine in the team but f it this is about having a world class side challenging for all trophies

Liverpool tried that when they signed Downing, Henderson and the lot.

[James W Clark 28]

Moussa Sissoko would be an outstanding back up option if either of these do not come through. Young, powerful, and probably could get for about 12 mil.

[lucio 5,418]

Moussa Sissoko would be an outstanding back up option if either of these do not come through. Young, powerful, and probably could get for about 12 mil.

Moussa Sissoko would be an outstanding back up option if either of these do not come through. Young, powerful, and probably could get for about 12 mil.

ive wanted him for years. cant believe ncastle got him for around 2m

[nadavTKL 1,787]

According to Sky Italy Bayern Munich is currently meeting Wolfsburg for the transfer out of Luiz Gustavo.

God we got to make a go at him, if he's available as it seems he would be a hugh signing for us. Sell Mikel and bring him.

Gianluca Di Marzio, very reliable, is also on it. http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/wolfsburg-incontro-in-corso-per-luiz-gustavo/

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

According to Sky Italy Bayern Munich is currently meeting Wolfsburg for the transfer out of Luiz Gustavo.

God we got to make a go at him, if he's available as it seems he would be a hugh signing for us. Sell Mikel and bring him.

Gianluca Di Marzio, very reliable, is also on it. http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/wolfsburg-incontro-in-corso-per-luiz-gustavo/

Haven't watched Gustavo closely, but if he's that good why is Bayern letting him go? I remember reading two or three weeks ago that Gustavo will be leaving Bayern this summer, so clubs knew since then he'll be available for a transfer. And again I'm wondering, if he's so good, why is Wolfsburg the only team interested in him?

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Haven't watched Gustavo closely, but if he's that good why is Bayern letting him go? I remember reading two or three weeks ago that Gustavo will be leaving Bayern this summer, so clubs knew since then he'll be available for a transfer. And again I'm wondering, if he's so good, why is Wolfsburg the only team interested in him?

Im not sure why Wolfsburg are the only club, becuase he's easily one of the best DM's in the world. Just watch him in the final against Spain in the Conf Cup or against Real in the SF in 2012. maybe Wolfsburg arent realy the only club, and maybe Bayern werent sure about him leaving and it was in a discussion with Pep and the board until now (and with Thiago's signing)

If you look at their performances in the last two seasons, he's better than De Rossi.

Why would Bayern let him go? they have Martinez who is more suitable to their game, and with Pep as a manager and with Thiago's arrival it seems Gustavo wont get a big part in the team.

[drog.ba 239]

He'd be better then anyone we currently have in defensive midfield, can see why Bayern would be letting them go with Thiago and Kroos perhaps playing deeper to accommodate Goezte

[Gilvorak 3,734]

A very limited player. Do not want.

[Severinb 309]

Im not sure why Wolfsburg are the only club, becuase he's easily one of the best DM's in the world. Just watch him in the final against Spain in the Conf Cup or against Real in the SF in 2012. maybe Wolfsburg arent realy the only club, and maybe Bayern werent sure about him leaving and it was in a discussion with Pep and the board until now (and with Thiago's signing)

If you look at their performances in the last two seasons, he's better than De Rossi.

Why would Bayern let him go? they have Martinez who is more suitable to their game, and with Pep as a manager and with Thiago's arrival it seems Gustavo wont get a big part in the team.

He played 16 bundesliga games if he was as good as you say wouldnt he have played more.. I think you are overhyping him because he had a good game against spain..

Dont think he is that good and dont want him here!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Alex Song anyone?

[nadavTKL 1,787]

He played 16 bundesliga games if he was as good as you say wouldnt he have played more.. I think you are overhyping him because he had a good game against spain..

Dont think he is that good and dont want him here!

He played only 16 games becuase they got Martinez, and i said why they chose to go for Martinez.

Im not overhyping him, he's the ultimate DM for us imo.

Its funny that people write their opinions when they havent seen any of the player. Its easy to see you're one of them, checking how many games he played... come on. Go and watch some Youtube videos at least. Be good at what your doing.

[Severinb 309]

He played only 16 games becuase they got Martinez, and i said why they chose to go for Martinez.

Im not overhyping him, he's the ultimate DM for us imo.

Its funny that people write their opinions when they havent seen any of the player. Its easy to see you're one of them, checking how many games he played... come on. Go and watch some Youtube videos at least. Be good at what your doing.

I watched about 20-25 games they played last season and in switzerland we are well informed about the BL so dont give me any crap about people have not seen him play. You said he could be easily one of the best DM so why is he a sub? you can rate him but you are in MY opinion overhyping him because if he was that good why didnt he play more? So shut up mate and get your facts right and dont know why you are talking about youtube clips have you been watching a couple of them or what.. I dont get the hate you can tell somebody the are overhyping him and you get attacked its just so lame.. And yeah I wasnt sure how many games he played so I looked it up did you know how many he played before I told you? And attacking me because I said I think you are overhyping him just shows that you dont know enough about him. And FYI I watched him when he was still playing for hoffenheim and he had great potential but he has not been playing enough since then to be regarded as one of the best DM.

And one last question if I had more rep would you have said the same?

[lucio 5,418]

I watched about 20-25 games they played last season and in switzerland we are well informed about the BL so dont give me any crap about people have not seen him play. You said he could be easily one of the best DM so why is he a sub? you can rate him but you are in MY opinion overhyping him because if he was that good why didnt he play more? So shut up mate and get your facts right and dont know why you are talking about youtube clips have you been watching a couple of them or what.. I dont get the hate you can tell somebody the are overhyping him and you get attacked its just so lame.. And yeah I wasnt sure how many games he played so I looked it up did you know how many he played before I told you? And attacking me because I said I think you are overhyping him just shows that you dont know enough about him. And FYI I watched him when he was still playing for hoffenheim and he had great potential but he has not been playing enough since then to be regarded as one of the best DM.

And one last question if I had more rep would you have said the same?

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Bayern would be fools to sell him, but they also were foolish enough to sell Gomez...

Gustavo might be worse than Martinez, cos he is much less skilled, smaller and weaker, but he is still one of the best DMs in the Bundesliga.

If we go for a Dm at all and do not go for De rossi, he should be considered. He is rather fast for a DM, much faster than Schweinsteiger or Javi martinez. His passing is decent, his tackling is excellent. The problem is his strengths or rather his lack of it. The web says he is 1,87, 80kg which can't be true. I am 1,90 and 80kg and i have seen him in person, he is much smaller than me, rather 70-75 kg. So if he puts on some muscle he can really become a great DM. I think is important for Brazil shows that he is a really capable, disciplined and hard working DM.

All in all, he is a faster, a bit less skilled, much smaller Mikel but with bigger engine and drive, more mobile and bigger radius of action, better sliding tackles and more dangerous offensively. So in general the better all-round package.