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I don't think we'll play much games with a holding position tbh. We'll play with a box to box midfielder (Ramires) then a deep lying playmaker (van Ginkel, possibly Mikel?), can't see us using an actual DM, 4-2-3-1 with an actual holding midfielder these days is very rare. Bayern used Martinez as the box to box and Schewini as the deep lying playmaker last season, Real used Khedira as the box to box with Alonso as the deep lying playmaker...

I think Gustavo was used more as a box to box midfielder last year with Bayern anyway (going on the evidence of his game vs Real Madrid)

Perhaps so but I don't think it would hurt having DM specialist, if you like, as having a proper DM would give us the flexibility in midfield to play several roles. Can't play through every game with the kind of midfield setup you mentioned there and expect to escape unscathed especially in the big games where we have been found hopelessly wanting there. Martinez maybe used as a B2B midfielder but he was also a midfield enforcer/destroyer, which I believe was his primary role last season. Khedira is also more or less in the same case there with Martinez.

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Perhaps so but I don't think it would hurt having DM specialist, if you like, as having a proper DM would give us the flexibility in midfield to play several roles. Can't play through every game with the kind of midfield setup you mentioned there and expect to escape unscathed especially in the big games where we have been found hopelessly wanting there. Martinez maybe used as a B2B midfielder but he was also a midfield enforcer/destroyer, which I believe was his primary role last season. Khedira is also more or less in the same case there with Martinez.

A B2B midfielder is usually a destroyer/enforcer as well.

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I don't think we'll play much games with a holding position tbh. We'll play with a box to box midfielder (Ramires) then a deep lying playmaker (van Ginkel, possibly Mikel?), can't see us using an actual DM, 4-2-3-1 with an actual holding midfielder these days is very rare. Bayern used Martinez as the box to box and Schewini as the deep lying playmaker last season, Real used Khedira as the box to box with Alonso as the deep lying playmaker...

I think Gustavo was used more as a box to box midfielder last year with Bayern anyway (going on the evidence of his game vs Real Madrid)

Gustavo was far from being a B2B in Bayern, and so does Martinez, they were classic holders. Schewini the playmaker a bit more forword than them.

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