Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Arsenal better make it. Without CL games as distraction they would do pretty well in the league. Magic Lamps, King11Didier and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I dread to think the meltdown we'll have on our hands if Lukaku sticks a couple away early on in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I dread to think the meltdown we'll have on our hands if Lukaku sticks a couple away early on in the season.but...this is the Ba thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 but...this is the Ba threadYeah, I was continuing the discussion from a couple of pages back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Arsenal better make it. Without CL games as distraction they would do pretty well in the league.They'll have EL to contend with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 They'll have EL to contend with.True that, but we all know they are not the same level of competition, not even close. Wenger will field the pitch with all his beloved kids in EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Really miss Ba, he could've been a solid 2nd striker. Costa-Ba-Drogba sounds good. sherry33, Dion and Kieran. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Arsenal better make it. Without CL games as distraction they would do pretty well in the league.Yup I also don't get why people want our domestic rivals out of the CL.I wish them to make it as far as they can in the CL. They will not be as focused on the league + when we win the league, the argument we won the best league in the world sound much more legit when there are some EPL teams in the CL semis. Also I'd much rather face Arsenal or City in the CL final than Bayern or Real. BlueLion., Ryan Fong and Bir_CFC 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Yup I also don't get why people want our domestic rivals out of the CL.I wish them to make it as far as they can in the CL. They will not be as focused on the league + when we win the league, the argument we won the best league in the world sound much more legit when there are some EPL teams in the CL semis. Also I'd much rather face Arsenal or City in the CL final than Bayern or Real.this sounds like small club mentality. we play in the champions league to play the best teams in Europe and showcase our talent. why do we want to play Arsenal and Liverpool over Bayern? I'd rather we play Bayern, Barca and Real to show we can beat them and legitimately be the best club in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Yup I also don't get why people want our domestic rivals out of the CL.So we can take the piss out of them. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 So we can take the piss out of them. Keeping them in is far more important. Us going out of the UCL in 2009/10 helped us win the league. United had two mammoth matches against Bayern and if you look at their performances after those two matches you can see why we won it. They played Bayern away on a Tuesday, then had a Saturday, 12.45pm kick-off at Old Trafford against us. Then they played Bayern on the following Thursday, and went to Ewood Park and drew 0-0 with Blackburn. The same applies to us last season - those two Atletico semi-final matches were massive distractions to our league performances (the Sunderland game was utterly horrific). That's why we want them to stay in, if we go out early. It works both ways, but I'm happy for Arsenal, Liverpool, City to stay in the UCL as long as us this season, if not longer if we go out early. Blue Armour, The only place to be and TorontoChelsea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iainrfc04 39 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Would be a good laugh seeing them get knocked out of the CL, but do hope they get through for that extra distraction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Keeping them in is far more important. Us going out of the UCL in 2009/10 helped us win the league. United had two mammoth matches against Bayern and if you look at their performances after those two matches you can see why we won it. They played Bayern away on a Tuesday, then had a Saturday, 12.45pm kick-off at Old Trafford against us. Then they played Bayern on the following Thursday, and went to Ewood Park and drew 0-0 with Blackburn. The same applies to us last season - those two Atletico semi-final matches were massive distractions to our league performances (the Sunderland game was utterly horrific). That's why we want them to stay in, if we go out early. It works both ways, but I'm happy for Arsenal, Liverpool, City to stay in the UCL as long as us this season, if not longer if we go out early. Great point....but I still want to take the piss. Suppose it's a win-win for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skau13 21 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Taking the piss out of Arsenal fans is a solid "consolation prize" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Keeping them in is far more important. Us going out of the UCL in 2009/10 helped us win the league. United had two mammoth matches against Bayern and if you look at their performances after those two matches you can see why we won it. They played Bayern away on a Tuesday, then had a Saturday, 12.45pm kick-off at Old Trafford against us. Then they played Bayern on the following Thursday, and went to Ewood Park and drew 0-0 with Blackburn. The same applies to us last season - those two Atletico semi-final matches were massive distractions to our league performances (the Sunderland game was utterly horrific). That's why we want them to stay in, if we go out early. It works both ways, but I'm happy for Arsenal, Liverpool, City to stay in the UCL as long as us this season, if not longer if we go out early. If Arsenal get dumped in Europey, that could prove as much a distraction in the league if not more.It's easy to say play the reserves and the team will be fresh for Sunday, that sounds logical on paper but in practice doesn't work like that, see Spurs last season for example. BlueLion. and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 If Arsenal get dumped in Europey, that could prove as much a distraction in the league if not more.It's easy to say play the reserves and the team will be fresh for Sunday, that sounds logical on paper but in practice doesn't work like that, see Spurs last season for example.Exactly, when you put it that way we did phenomenally well to play Thursday-Sunday every week in 2012/13. It comes down to squad depth, and Arsenal simply cannot compare with us on that. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Keeping them in is far more important. Us going out of the UCL in 2009/10 helped us win the league. United had two mammoth matches against Bayern and if you look at their performances after those two matches you can see why we won it. They played Bayern away on a Tuesday, then had a Saturday, 12.45pm kick-off at Old Trafford against us. Then they played Bayern on the following Thursday, and went to Ewood Park and drew 0-0 with Blackburn. The same applies to us last season - those two Atletico semi-final matches were massive distractions to our league performances (the Sunderland game was utterly horrific). That's why we want them to stay in, if we go out early. It works both ways, but I'm happy for Arsenal, Liverpool, City to stay in the UCL as long as us this season, if not longer if we go out early. And look at Liverpool last year. No way they finish near the top if they had to play a bunch of CL games. I don't care about other clubs losing, I care about us winning and it's better for Chelsea if other Premier League sides don't get knocked out early. The only place to be and BlueLion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 And look at Liverpool last year. No way they finish near the top if they had to play a bunch of CL games. I don't care about other clubs losing, I care about us winning and it's better for Chelsea if other Premier League sides don't get knocked out early.Precisely. I mean, if you want to win the UCL, unless you have an absolute freak of a squad and/or the competition in the league is stale, there is almost no way you can win that and the league title. Bayern, Real, Barcelona etc. all have ridiculous squads and the rest of the teams in Spain and Germany, though good (I'd never be so presumptuous to dismiss quality teams like Atletico, Dortmund, Schalke, etc.), you'd expect a Bayern or Barcelona side to make 4/5 changes and still win handsomely in 90% of matches. The same applies for if you want to win the League. You almost have to choose one or the other. That's why our league performances were so horrendous, for the most part, under di Matteo in 11/12. Our squad back then was hardly special, I still sometimes wonder how the fuck we did it, but one of the major reasons was what would normally be important league matches, like Arsenal away, were moreorless useless for anything other than practising how we'd line up against the European big boys. TorontoChelsea and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Still cant believe we sold him for only 3m, while fucking buttner went for 5m.Besiktas owned us on this one, we should get at least 7mio for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Still cant believe we sold him for only 3m, while fucking buttner went for 5m.Besiktas owned us on this one, we should get at least 7mio for him.???We sold him for 6mil (4.8mil £).Buttner went for 4.4mil £. The Skipper and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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