🇸🇳 Demba Ba

[The Skipper 20,609]

Forget the price, Torres is better than Ba and thats a fact.

Ba scored 2 goals in 14 PL games, do you think thats good enough? 6 goals in 22 games in all competitions?

I dont care about the player form before joining the club, Torres before Chelsea was the best in his position. So one of the most nonsensical things I read in this forum is people saying that, beyond doubt, Ba is a better player than Torres.

Cavani>Torres>Lukaku

I dont really see the need of Ba.

Come on, you're being naive. Okay, Ba hasn't been that good for Chelsea but if you think Torres is better than Ba then you must've been sleeping for the last two and a half years.

Forgetting the price, Ba has been a much better striker than Torres over the last 2 and a half years, that's fact. Torres was not the best striker before he joined Chelsea, that's nonsense. I love how people are willing to forget how garbage Torres has been over the last 2 and a half years but when Ba has a rough 6 months with us it's easy to write him off.

Anelka was exactly the same when he joined us in January 2008 and guess what? He finished top scorer in the league the season after, after he had a proper pre-season with the team.

Again, I love how you're saying "forget the stats" but then being them up for your convenience when it comes to your argument against Ba. Ba has scores 2 in 14? Torres has 8 in 36. To even say Torres has been better than Lukaku last season is absolutely laughable.

You can't just forget their wages or prices either. Ba was brought to be the 2nd/3rd choice striker, whilst Torres was bought to be the leading striker. You can't have a £50m who's on £175k a week as your 2nd choice striker. That's nonsense.

Ba's been off form in his last couple of games so it's easy for people to look at him and write him off. Torres has ended the season quite well and people are willing to forget his whole time here. It's nothing short of delusional I think.

[English Freak 456]

Come on, you're being naive. Okay, Ba hasn't been that good for Chelsea but if you think Torres is better than Ba then you must've been sleeping for the last two and a half years.

Forgetting the price, Ba has been a much better striker than Torres over the last 2 and a half years, that's fact. Torres was not the best striker before he joined Chelsea, that's nonsense. I love how people are willing to forget how garbage Torres has been over the last 2 and a half years but when Ba has a rough 6 months with us it's easy to write him off.

Anelka was exactly the same when he joined us in January 2008 and guess what? He finished top scorer in the league the season after, after he had a proper pre-season with the team.

Again, I love how you're saying "forget the stats" but then being them up for your convenience when it comes to your argument against Ba. Ba has scores 2 in 14? Torres has 8 in 36. To even say Torres has been better than Lukaku last season is absolutely laughable.

You can't just forget their wages or prices either. Ba was brought to be the 2nd/3rd choice striker, whilst Torres was bought to be the leading striker. You can't have a £50m who's on £175k a week as your 2nd choice striker. That's nonsense.

Ba's been off form in his last couple of games so it's easy for people to look at him and write him off. Torres has ended the season quite well and people are willing to forget his whole time here. It's nothing short of delusional I think.

Let's just sell Torres & Ba..cause at the end of the day, Ba is at best a 15 goal a season striker...and Torres..well he just needs to leave.

Then our forwards for next season could be: Cavani, Lukaku, Schurrle.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Let's just sell Torres & Ba..cause at the end of the day, Ba is at best a 15 goal a season striker...and Torres..well he just needs to leave.

Then our forwards for next season could be: Cavani, Lukaku, Schurrle.

If Ba has a good season, he can easily grab 15 a season yeah, which is good for a second choice striker I think.

It's down to Mourinho, but if we are choosing to sell between Torres and Ba then obviously we need to move on the former first. Not even a question about that in my opinion.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Let's just sell Torres & Ba..cause at the end of the day, Ba is at best a 15 goal a season striker...and Torres..well he just needs to leave.

Then our forwards for next season could be: Cavani, Lukaku, Schurrle.

Madness. That's like saying Ancelotti should have gotten rid of Anelka and Kalou because they're only good enough for 15 goals a season

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Let's just sell Torres & Ba..cause at the end of the day, Ba is at best a 15 goal a season striker...and Torres..well he just needs to leave.

Then our forwards for next season could be: Cavani, Lukaku, Schurrle.

What's wrong with 15-goals a season? . Like I said in the Moses thread, we need guys like this when it gets to the period of the season where it's been over 40 games and you need the squad players to come in and fill the void when the rest are suffering from fatigue. And if those players grab you 15-goals as a squad player.. Well how can we complain?

[termninja 5,290]

I see.

So Ba signs for us in January and plays for 5 months.

Torres signed for us 2.5 years ago, gave 2 years of shit performances and yet he still receives support from some fans while everyone has written Ba off. Give the lad just the 3rd of support you're given to Blondie and watch him go, simple as that!

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He is a great player to have as a backup. His wages aren't high, he isn't a massive personality or a star and besides that, he always works hard.

[Jase 43,479]

Demba Ba faces Chelsea axe as Jose Mourinho looks to shake up striker options

I always thought it was very unrealistic that we'd sell him after just half a season. But from the article, it seems like selling Torres is the priority.

Oh joy. If we get Cavani in and sell Ba because of it, we then would have a player earning 175k p/w wages warming the bench every week...

Gotta applaud that idiotic decision made by the board to pay the flop blondie that much wages for a week!

[Sheva. 5,373]

he also wasted easy chances

This. Always wasting chances and falling over like every game, smh. If Lukaku is going to stay, then we don't need him or Torres.

[Henrique 9,133]

Come on, you're being naive. Okay, Ba hasn't been that good for Chelsea but if you think Torres is better than Ba then you must've been sleeping for the last two and a half years.

Forgetting the price, Ba has been a much better striker than Torres over the last 2 and a half years, that's fact. Torres was not the best striker before he joined Chelsea, that's nonsense. I love how people are willing to forget how garbage Torres has been over the last 2 and a half years but when Ba has a rough 6 months with us it's easy to write him off.

Anelka was exactly the same when he joined us in January 2008 and guess what? He finished top scorer in the league the season after, after he had a proper pre-season with the team.

Again, I love how you're saying "forget the stats" but then being them up for your convenience when it comes to your argument against Ba. Ba has scores 2 in 14? Torres has 8 in 36. To even say Torres has been better than Lukaku last season is absolutely laughable.

You can't just forget their wages or prices either. Ba was brought to be the 2nd/3rd choice striker, whilst Torres was bought to be the leading striker. You can't have a £50m who's on £175k a week as your 2nd choice striker. That's nonsense.

Ba's been off form in his last couple of games so it's easy for people to look at him and write him off. Torres has ended the season quite well and people are willing to forget his whole time here. It's nothing short of delusional I think.

I dont care about what Ba did in last 2 years, Im discussing his Chelsea career. Ba has been out of form since joining Chelsea.

[nono 791]

Chelsea is like a giant vacuum that sucks in garbage strikers from all corners of the globe.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

This. Always wasting chances and falling over like every game, smh. If Lukaku is going to stay, then we don't need him or Torres.

And if he were to get injured? We'd only have one recognized striker (assuming we sign Cavani)

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

This. Always wasting chances and falling over like every game, smh. If Lukaku is going to stay, then we don't need him or Torres.

But why not? If he is willing (which I'm sure he is) to accept 3rd choice, why sell him?

Remember it's not like we're asking to lead the line week in and week out, let's say Lukaku picks up a knock and Cavani needs to be rested (which will surely happen as the season unfolds) surely Ba would be able to do a job.

Edit: LDN beat me to it.

[Sheva. 5,373]

And if he were to get injured? We'd only have one recognized striker (assuming we sign Cavani)

Get someone from the reserves to back up the main striker till he returns. We don't need to waste wages and non HG spot on a 3rd choice striker who will rarely play. Barring injury, 2 strikers is perfectly fine.

[Sheva. 5,373]

But why not? If he is willing (which I'm sure he is) to accept 3rd choice, why sell him?

Remember it's not like we're asking to lead the line week in and week out, let's say Lukaku picks up a knock and Cavani needs to be rested (which will surely happen as the season unfolds) surely Ba would be able to do a job.

Edit: LDN beat me to it.

Real Madrid have had only Benz and Higuain the past couple seasons, and whenever one is unable to play they get Morata from the Castilla. There's no reason why we can't do the same.

Also, Schurrle is another option.

[robsblubot 3,595]

People are missing the obvious point that Torres cannot be sold for a profit; and I am not talking about the amount paid to liverpool, I'm talking about what we'd have to pay him until 2016 to cover his wages (wherever he goes).

nice explanation here: http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2013/6/8/4408864/can-chelsea-sell-fernando-torres

The same physical presence Ba offers (questionable as he does goes to the ground a lot) we can get from Lukaku (perhaps better). Ba does score goals, but in this day of age with the likes Lewa, Aguero leading attacks I reckon a club like Chelsea cannot start a simple old-fashioned striker like Ba.

Now, if neither Torres or Ba is good enough, why would we sell Ba? Well, because Ba *can* be sold and for profit considering we've oly paid 7m for him.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Now, if neither Torres or Ba is good enough, why would we sell Ba? Well, because Ba *can* be sold and for profit considering we've oly paid 7m for him.

And that profit would be used in paying torres his wages while he sulks on the bench or reserves.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Real Madrid have had only Benz and Higuain the past couple seasons, and whenever one is unable to play they get Morata from the Castilla. There's no reason why we can't do the same.

Also, Schurrle is another option.

The problems we faced were lack of depth and quality off the bench. By getting rid of Ba we lose both. And if we plan on challenging on all fronts we need as much depth as we can reasonably have, not to mention by keeping Ba around it would offer a nice spirit of competition. That all top clubs need to have.

[Christo191 173]

People are missing the obvious point that Torres cannot be sold for a profit; and I am not talking about the amount paid to liverpool, I'm talking about what we'd have to pay him until 2016 to cover his wages (wherever he goes).

nice explanation here: http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2013/6/8/4408864/can-chelsea-sell-fernando-torres

The same physical presence Ba offers (questionable as he does goes to the ground a lot) we can get from Lukaku (perhaps better). Ba does score goals, but in this day of age with the likes Lewa, Aguero leading attacks I reckon a club like Chelsea cannot start a simple old-fashioned striker like Ba.

Now, if neither Torres or Ba is good enough, why would we sell Ba? Well, because Ba *can* be sold and for profit considering we've oly paid 7m for him.

You just missed that Torres already has payed off his price tag, by "selling shirts" a couple of times. His shirt is one of the most selling in the world. This argument for the price of the players is unvallid. And getting ridiculous. If we didn't have the money, we just wont pay the price nor the wages!

Oh, And BA is SHIT!

[Sovieticus 743]

BA is SHIT!

No mate, he isn't shit. He's just off form.

[Jase 43,479]

You just missed that Torres already has payed off his price tag, by "selling shirts" a couple of times. His shirt is one of the most selling in the world. This argument for the price of the players is unvallid. And getting ridiculous. If we didn't have the money, we just wont pay the price nor the wages!

Oh, And BA is SHIT!

So, that is where we are at now...buy (rubbish) players like Torres just to sell shirts?