Fernando Torres

[The Skipper 20,609]

O yea no through balls right?

this still hurts.

[Santiago. 1,500]

Most accomplished player. That made me lawl. Other than Euro 08, what the fuck has this waste of fuck contributed other than nausea?

[El Ninodinho 19]

Most accomplished player. That made me lawl. Other than Euro 08, what the fuck has this waste of fuck contributed other than nausea?

He was a goal scoring machine at Liverpool.

- 2x Euro

- 1x World Cup

- Golden Boot winner at Euro 2012

Look I'm not trying to defend that guy that much, he has definitely been subpar at Chelsea and that's all that really matters in this case. But you can't argue with his international achievements.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Only important goals I can pick from this list is Arsenal...and he only scored because of Koscielny and one of his brain farts. The United goal was completely cancelled out by his miss of the millennia that followed and I don't count the Barca goal for much, since we had pretty much won already. £50m and 175k+ a week to score against pub teams (and mainly at home)? I would've rather let Sturridge do that to be honest.

# Season Date Year Competition Opponent Score Result Venue

1 2010-11 23 April 2011 Premier League West Ham United 2-0 3-0 Stamford Bridge (Relegated)

2 2011-12 18 September 2011 Premier League Manchester United 1-3 1-3 Old Trafford (Missed opener)

3 2011-12 24 September 2011 Premier League Swansea City 1-0 4-1 Stamford Bridge (Sent Off)

4 2011-12 19 October 2011 UEFA Champions League Genk 2-0 5-0 Stamford Bridge (Belgian L)

5 2011-12 19 October 2011 UEFA Champions League Genk 3-0 5-0 Stamford Bridge (Belgian L)

6 2011-12 18 March 2012 FA Cup Leicester City 3-0 5-2 Stamford Bridge (Championship)

7 2011-12 18 March 2012 FA Cup Leicester City 4-1 5-2 Stamford Bridge (Championship)

8 2011-12 31 March 2012 Premier League Aston Villa 4-2 4-2 Villa Park (Near Relegation)

9 2011-12 24 April 2012 UEFA Champions League Barcelona 2-2 2-2 Nou Camp (One on one with Valdes+no defence)

10 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 3-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

11 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 4-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

12 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 5-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

13 2012-13 12 August 2012 Community Shield Manchester City 1-0 2-3 Villa Park (Friendly)

14 2012-13 22 August 2012 Premier League Reading 3-2 4-2 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

15 2012-13 25 August 2012 Premier League Newcastle United 2-0 2-0 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

16 2012-13 25 September 2012 League Cup Wolverhampton Wanderers 5-0 6-0 Stamford Bridge (Championship)

17 2012-13 29 September 2012 Premier League Arsenal 1-0 2-1 Emirates Stadium

18 2012-13 06 October 2012 Premier League Norwich City 1-1 4-1 Stamford Bridge (2nd half of table)

19 2012-13 07 November 2012 UEFA Champions League Shakhtar Donetsk 1-0 3-2 Stamford Bridge (Keeper mistake)

20 2012-13 05 December 2012 UEFA Champions League Nordsjælland 2-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Danish L)

21 2012-13 05 December 2012 UEFA Champions League Nordsjælland 4-1 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Danish L)

22 2012-13 08 December 2012 Premier League Sunderland 1-0 3-1 Stadium of Light (Near Relegation)

23 2012-13 08 December 2012 Premier League Sunderland 2-0 3-1 Stadium of Light (Near Relegation)

24 2012-13 13 December 2012 FIFA Club World Cup Monterrey 2-0 3-1 Yokohama (Mexican L)

25 2012-13 19 December 2012 League Cup Leeds United 5-1 5-1 Elland Road (Championship)

26 2012-13 23 December 2012 Premier League Aston Villa 1-0 8-0 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)

27 2012-13 27 January 2013 FA Cup Brentford 2-2 2-2 Griffin Park (League 1)

28 2012-13 27 February 2013 FA Cup Middlesbrough 1-0 2-0 Riverside Stadium (Championship)

29 2012-13 14 March 2013 UEFA Europa League Steaua Bucharest 3-1 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Romanian L)

30 2012-13 4 April 2013 UEFA Europa League Rubin Kazan 1-0 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Russian L)

31 2012-13 4 April 2013 UEFA Europa League Rubin Kazan 3-1 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Russian L)

Edit: I've now made annotations in brackets for each team/game. So according to this, Torres' level seems to be the Championship/Europa League...

His goals against Swansea, Reading, Newcastle, Arsenal, Norwich, Shakhtar, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Brentford, Steaua and Rubin were all important goals. People need to stop with this myth that Torres never scores important goals!

[The Skipper 20,609]

His goals against Reading, Newcastle, Arsenal, Norwich, Shakhtar, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Brentford, Steaua and Rubin were all important goals. People need to stop with this myth that Torres never scores important goals!

That's not the argument though - the argument is that he scores against the lesser sides.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

That's not the argument though - the argument is that he scores against the lesser sides.

yes it is.

Only important goals I can pick from this list is Arsenal

[CHOULO19 24,332]

So much hate for a player who is the most accomplished player on the Chelsea roster and it's not even up for discussion.

He's the player who's won the most trophies, not the most accomplished. Accomplished implies that he won those trophies with his hard work when in reality he had very little to do with any of those trophies except the 08 Euro. By your logic, Brown and O'Shea are two of the most accomplished players in the league.

[Spike 12,049]

So he has scored against top 4 teams..twice is that right? One aginst ManUtd and the other against Arsenal?

Ugh,

[Blue Armour 4,436]

So he has scored against top 4 teams..twice is that right? One aginst ManUtd and the other against Arsenal?

Ugh,

And City as well..not that it makes a big difference

[Spike 12,049]

And City as well..not that it makes a big difference

Yeah, but the season hadn't started then and it was a different competition. A glorified friendly match.

[The Mak 4,459]

His goals against Swansea, Reading, Newcastle, Arsenal, Norwich, Shakhtar, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Brentford, Steaua and Rubin were all important goals. People need to stop with this myth that Torres never scores important goals!

yes it is.

I meant in the context of scoring against a top side, sorry if that wasn't clear.

The majority of the teams you've listed, we should've won with or without Fernando Torres. If Sturridge played in those matches for example, I'd imagine we would've won most of them as well...do you want to know why I can make such an assumption? Because Mata has 18 goals, the same as Torres, and 30 assists - THIRTY - while Hazard has 12 goals and 17 assists (not including the penalties he's won); losing either one of those players would be much more detrimental to our side than losing Torres.

[Jase 43,479]

His goals against Swansea, Reading, Newcastle, Arsenal, Norwich, Shakhtar, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Brentford, Steaua and Rubin were all important goals. People need to stop with this myth that Torres never scores important goals!

Pfffttt! I blame him for our fixture pile up for that goal he scored against Steaua especially..

[Backstreet09 499]

Don't hate the player, hate the facts bro.

Facts sometimes could be rather decieving , like, Mikel has such a good passing percentage, so, a nuetral who hasn't watched him play, would totally be impressed by that. But in reality, almost all our JEDI's passes our to the keeper or other fellow defenders .

Uhm, I've got a Torres fact for you, doesn't matter how much effort he puts in, our overly creative team doesn't provide him with any sorta service, even against the pub team and you can't deny that .

That miss against United wasn't like the worse in the world, grow up from that . There are even worse misses by some even more great players in youtube . Search them up for yourself

Even though, I sorta agree, Ferda has been totally crap and hasn't been anyway near to his Liverpool form but saying the goals he has scored against the pub team are worthless, is awfully horrible . It's football for fuck sake. No team here is shit, we lost to corinthians, drew qpr, southampton etc . and you're still arrogant enough to call NewCastle, Rubin Kazan etc, Pub teams ?

#2muchego #factsdistorted #bringbackthespecialone

[lucio 5,418]

cmon guys he just needs more time and a team built around him

[crowzar 0]

Hey guys, I'm a football journalist and I have subsequently written an article about Fernando Torres. Hopefully it gives all you fans a glimmer of hope, he's still got it in him! Check out my article and please leave comments about the article either to this post or on the website. And share it with your mates aswell! Cheers guys!

http://footballspeak.com/post/2013/04/10/El-Nino-The-renaissance.aspx