Las7 951 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Don't know about you guys, but Torres is the absolute least of our worries at this moment and going forward.I feel about Torres the same way I feel about Sheva. Needless transfers not really managerial choices that made us miss out on players who would have made us a lot better in the case of Torres we missed out on Modric and in the case of Sheva it was Daniel Alves. So to me it's not so much how awful Torres has been for over an year but rather how it was a completely wasteful considering in the case with Torres we had Sturridge who had barely played and was send out on loan after a whooping 13 games mostly as a substitute in the League while in games he started like in the FA he had shown enough quality to be though off as a striker here at Chelsea. While with Sheva it was even stranger cause we had an inform Drogba who had difficulty working with other strikers but had developed an almost telepathic understanding with an inform Lampard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I feel about Torres the same way I feel about Sheva. Needless transfers not really managerial choices that made us miss out on players who would have made us a lot better in the case of Torres we missed out on Modric and in the case of Sheva it was Daniel Alves.We bid £40 mil for Modric and it was turned down, how is that any way connected to Torres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 We bid £40 mil for Modric and it was turned down, how is that any way connected to Torres?It's connected because we would have made our first approach in the winter, it would have been turned down Modric would have had a strop like he did at the start of the season and in the summer we would have been in a better bargaining position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Pssh. You assume too much. Manuf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 What i do find baffling is why we gave Torres 180k a week.He took a pay cut to go to Liverpool and turned down City's offer of 250k a week so he is clearly not money driven, so why couldn't we have just offered his same wages at Liverpool maybe a bit more. If this more was about ambition like he claims then surely he wouldn't have said no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 What i do find baffling is why we gave Torres 180k a week.He took a pay cut to go to Liverpool and turned down City's offer of 250k a week so he is clearly not money driven, so why couldn't we have just offered his same wages at Liverpool maybe a bit more. If this more was about ambition like he claims then surely he wouldn't have said no?How much was he on at Liverpool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 How much was he on at Liverpool?80k a week I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Pssh. You assume too much.I do know that Torres's transfer was in the works well before the winter transfer window and we exhausted all possible options before actually Liverpool settled with a 50 million transfer fee. If that type of energy was used to try to secure a creative attacking midfielder or a right winger - our creativity problems might have been addressed adequately last winter whether we signed Modric or someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Don't know about you guys, but Torres is the absolute least of our worries at this moment and going forward.I don't know about any priorities but he's definitely a cause for worry. He plays very well against generally weaker opposition and creates an impression that he's back in form, and falters a couple of games later. I just hope he doesn't last here longer than he needs to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnmontero 78 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 The problem with Torres, if you look at his goals at liverpool, is that he is a striker that needs good passes, long balls, etc to score. Unlike Drogba that forces his way to the goal and without a proper playmaker we can't make him work the way we expect him to, he is not a defense pusher, he is a defense dribbler.If you compare Torres with Drogba you will see the difference, Drogba is a premier league striker strong, while Torres is a spanish league striker with a lot of pace, why do you think Torres started to stink as soon as Benitez was sacked and Alonso and company got sold? Benitez' era Liverpool was a Spanish playing style club. If we want Torres to succeed we need to leave the English playing style and start playing like in La Liga, short passes, long balls, counter attacking and etc, didn't you see his last goal at Aston Villa? Counter-attack and goal.We need to bring a spanish playmaker to play with Torres, who understands how to pass the ball to him. Then we will make him work, or well forget about Torres and just give Dany a chance. tmessy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 He needs to improve his dribbling.Crashing into defenders with predictable step overs and turns will not help. manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmessy 139 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 haha the media takes everything into consideration! hahaha and i do believe with @mnmontero that we do need a spanish midfield to give him those passes he fed off of and wrecked defenses... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2128276/New-Chelsea-home-kit-2012-13-Fernando-Torres-unveils-adidas-strip.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 haha the media takes everything into consideration! hahaha and i do believe with @mnmontero that we do need a spanish midfield to give him those passes he fed off of and wrecked defenses...http://www.dailymail...idas-strip.htmlThen again Ballack and Joe Cole were part of the marketing for the 10/11 season kit and they buggered off in the same summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmessy 139 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Then again Ballack and Joe Cole were part of the marketing for the 10/11 season kit and they buggered off in the same summer.hahaha didnt write the artice, and TRUE... just glad and hoping my boy nando, stays with chelsea... im still adamant on that he still has alot to give to the club...and our summer looks good for him and cfc... next year will be dope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 <p><br />The problem with Torres, if you look at his goals at liverpool, is that he is a striker that needs good passes, long balls, etc to score. Unlike Drogba that forces his way to the goal and without a proper playmaker we can't make him work the way we expect him to, he is not a defense pusher, he is a defense dribbler.<br /><br />If you compare Torres with Drogba you will see the difference, Drogba is a premier league striker strong, while Torres is a spanish league striker with a lot of pace, why do you think Torres started to stink as soon as Benitez was sacked and Alonso and company got sold? Benitez' era Liverpool was a Spanish playing style club. If we want Torres to succeed we need to leave the English playing style and start playing like in La Liga, short passes, long balls, counter attacking and etc, didn't you see his last goal at Aston Villa? Counter-attack and goal.<br /><br />We need to bring a spanish playmaker to play with Torres, who understands how to pass the ball to him. Then we will make him work, or well forget about Torres and just give Dany a chance.<br /><br /><br /></p>We have Mata already. Problem is in the style of game. Maybe we need another creative midfielder, but he wont be spanish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 haha the media takes everything into consideration! hahaha and i do believe with @mnmontero that we do need a spanish midfield to give him those passes he fed off of and wrecked defenses...http://www.dailymail...idas-strip.htmlDon't worry next year will be his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oman43 45 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The problem with Torres, if you look at his goals at liverpool, is that he is a striker that needs good passes, long balls, etc to score. Unlike Drogba that forces his way to the goal and without a proper playmaker we can't make him work the way we expect him to, he is not a defense pusher, he is a defense dribbler.If you compare Torres with Drogba you will see the difference, Drogba is a premier league striker strong, while Torres is a spanish league striker with a lot of pace, why do you think Torres started to stink as soon as Benitez was sacked and Alonso and company got sold? Benitez' era Liverpool was a Spanish playing style club. If we want Torres to succeed we need to leave the English playing style and start playing like in La Liga, short passes, long balls, counter attacking and etc, didn't you see his last goal at Aston Villa? Counter-attack and goal.We need to bring a spanish playmaker to play with Torres, who understands how to pass the ball to him. Then we will make him work, or well forget about Torres and just give Dany a chance. Your completely right! I mean De bruyne is coming which may help, but we havent got a David silva or modric to play him in. Don't get me wrong he isnt helping himself hiding on the wing but in some games he makes some superb runs which are just wasted just to our poor attacking minded midfielders. Mata is great, but world class, is up for debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Honestly I admit, that I would more like to see we would never bought Torres and he would stay at pool and be back in form, scoring 20 goals in this season...here, he is just not that player any more. Passion he had, has completely gone. Now he tries to prove himself, instead of just enjoy in game. He is really a class and a player I always liked to watch. Dont get me wrong, I never liked liverpool (or disliked them), but this guy was just briliant. Respect, I'd say. Reason why I would go for Modric is, because he might be only one to bring nino back in form. Cabaye cant do that...Hope he gets back in form. I think that would be our biggest summer signing, if he gets in form... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The problem with Torres, if you look at his goals at liverpool, is that he is a striker that needs good passes, long balls, etc to score. Unlike Drogba that forces his way to the goal and without a proper playmaker we can't make him work the way we expect him to, he is not a defense pusher, he is a defense dribbler.If you compare Torres with Drogba you will see the difference, Drogba is a premier league striker strong, while Torres is a spanish league striker with a lot of pace, why do you think Torres started to stink as soon as Benitez was sacked and Alonso and company got sold? Benitez' era Liverpool was a Spanish playing style club. If we want Torres to succeed we need to leave the English playing style and start playing like in La Liga, short passes, long balls, counter attacking and etc, didn't you see his last goal at Aston Villa? Counter-attack and goal.We need to bring a spanish playmaker to play with Torres, who understands how to pass the ball to him. Then we will make him work, or well forget about Torres and just give Dany a chance.I'd rather sell him than change the indentity of a whole club. Las7, Peace. and francozola 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 For 20mio or what? While those 30 will just dissapear? Get a proper creative midfielder and he is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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