RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Unfortunately, it is more likely for him to stay rather than Lukaku. Seeking for his buyer, is always only in a dream anyway. Brace yourselves, another year with Torres.2 more years, people, 2 more years left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilander 35 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Please, sell him!Leave him leave with no transfer fee is OK!Don't expect any income from his transfer-out fee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilander 35 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 This photo tell me,2012 FIFA Ballon d'Or winner is Torres rather than Messi !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 talk to me when u get something else to say!!! tired of having the same argument!!!as for not "needing" lukaku. please!!! just like we dint "need" sturridge!!Sturridge's hold-up play and his ability to drop deep and bring others into the game with his passing would be very useful.That's the one positive to take from Torres's presence. On the ball he's still got some quality. Bizarrely he's probably still better than Lukaku at holding the ball up with his back to goal, although neither is as good as Costa or Drogba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Sturridge's hold-up play and his ability to drop deep and bring others into the game with his passing would be very useful.That's the one positive to take from Torres's presence. On the ball he's still got some quality. Bizarrely he's probably still better than Lukaku at holding the ball up with his back to goal, although neither is as good as Costa or Drogba.Even if that is right (considering torres does hold the ball up cos everytime he touches it I either see the ball to the opposition or torres sprawled on the floor with the ball inadvertently going back to the oppostition), just tell m e how many PL goals did torres score using his hokd up play or just tell me how many goals chelsea scored using torees' hold up play. Lukaku is 21, even if his play with the back to the goal is not as it should be, he is still a massive threat and definitely more than torres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Even if that is right (considering torres does hold the ball up cos everytime he touches it I either see the ball to the opposition or torres sprawled on the floor with the ball inadvertently going back to the oppostition), just tell m e how many PL goals did torres score using his hokd up play or just tell me how many goals chelsea scored using torees' hold up play.Lukaku is 21, even if his play with the back to the goal is not as it should be, he is still a massive threat and definitely more than torres.torres wins loads of headers. sadly , none of them go anywhere useful for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/07/how-barcelona-and-real-madrid-became-the-only-two-teams-that-matter-in-world-football-and-why-it-wont-last/Scroll down to shirts, highest Chelsea shirt seller yearly apparently, even more than the likes of Hazard...etc. Unbelievable The Chels and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is he really an unsellable player? Why not offer to pay him out for the last two years of his contract, say pay him the rest of his wage and sell him for cheap? Or viceversa, buy himself out and agree a settlement with the club for the exact same fee?Or why not give him the Bogarde/Malouda treatment and put him in the reserves? Or make him 3rd/4th choice striker? If we really wanted to make his stay here untenable, we can do so.Anelka left, Sturridge left, Kalou left, Lukaku is leaving and this guy remains at our club? DOING WHAT exactly? How many managers and players must we lose because of his ineptitude? I have to question who makes the decisions at this football club. Mourinho has already said the guy is not a striker. WTF is he still doing here? Pay him out, take your losses and tell him to fuck off! I just hope Roman is not interfering with anything because this doesn't make sense anymore. Mufassir08 and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is he really an unsellable player? Why not offer to pay him out for the last two years of his contract, say pay him the rest of his wage and sell him for cheap? Or viceversa, buy himself out and agree a settlement with the club for the exact same fee?Or why not give him the Bogarde/Malouda treatment and put him in the reserves? Or make him 3rd/4th choice striker? If we really wanted to make his stay here untenable, we can do so.Anelka left, Sturridge left, Kalou left, Lukaku is leaving and this guy remains at our club? DOING WHAT exactly? How many managers and players must we lose because of his ineptitude? I have to question who makes the decisions at this football club. Mourinho has already said the guy is not a striker. WTF is he still doing here? Pay him out, take your losses and tell him to fuck off! I just hope Roman is not interfering with anything because this doesn't make sense anymore. Just wait until the end of the transfer window before concluding that he isn't going... For all we know the club might be looking at selling him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I am lost for words that he is still here. I hope he ain't come the end of the transfer window. He has had so many chances, but has always faltered. Enough is enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Hopefully that chance he missed sent the right people over the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/07/how-barcelona-and-real-madrid-became-the-only-two-teams-that-matter-in-world-football-and-why-it-wont-last/Scroll down to shirts, highest Chelsea shirt seller yearly apparently, even more than the likes of Hazard...etc. UnbelievableI guess that explains why he's still here - brand recognition. It's insane how marketable he is. Really unbelievable. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 He still bring in millions for the club every year through his shirt, that is one of the reason he is staying too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 He still bring in millions for the club every year through his shirt, that is one of the reason he is staying too.http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2013/9/6/4702220/no-fernando-torres-doesnt-earn-chelsea-21m-in-annual-shirt-salesbrings us £4m max a year in shirt sales.costs well over £10m a year on wages. and jeopardizes our ambitions on the pitch. clearly he shouldn't stay for shirt sales. zolayes, Las7, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 this is what our strikers cost us last year (according to wagnh)torres = 19miletoo = 7milba = 6millukaku = 2mila total of 34milwhat our strikers will cost this seasontorres = 19milDD = 4mil (higher estimate)costa = 16 millukaku = -16.4mil. (considering his transfer fee to be 19mil from anderlecht and just 24 mil from everton) (very high estimates) (can be as high as 26mil if his clauses were not triggered out hence making his transfer fee as low as 10mil, and his transfer fee to everton being 30mil pounds).a total of 22.6mil.if we sell torres for even 5mil. thentorres = 13milcosta=16milDD = 4millukaku =-16.4milba = -0.75mil which makes a total of 16mil(round figure).considering we can atleast match the amount we spent of strikers last season, we have 18mil pounds in FFP terms.we can buy another striker worth about 32mil and at wages of 185kpw. selling torres with the lukaku deal done, makes perfect sense. if torres does not not leave, it will be cos jose and the board want him to stay, no other reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If we do sell Torres for even £5m, his yearly cost would be much less than £13m because you have to subtract his wages from that too (around £9m I think), so in reality that cost would go down to £4m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If we do sell Torres for even £5m, his yearly cost would be much less than £13m because you have to subtract his wages from that too (around £9m I think), so in reality that cost would go down to £4m.nope.torrid has 2 years left on his contract. 50 mil at 5 and a half years, so his amortized fee comes to be around the 9mil mark which for 2 years is 18mil. so selling him for even 5mil would mean, 13mil. The Skipper and Las7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 nope.torrid has 2 years left on his contract. 50 mil at 5 and a half years, so his amortized fee comes to be around the 9mil mark which for 2 years is 18mil. so selling him for even 5mil would mean, 13mil.Whilst that is true, I think that £13m fee could possibly be amortised to £6.5m for just for that one year, whilst the rest of it may be amortised in the following year. It can be done in both ways though I think. Regardless, I do see why the club want to sell him for around £20m now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Whilst that is true, I think that £13m fee could possibly be amortised to £6.5m for just for that one year, whilst the rest of it may be amortised in the following year. It can be done in both ways though I think.Regardless, I do see why the club want to sell him for around £20m now though.i doubt it. when a player leaves, his balance value is taken completely. or that is what i understood from the numerous WAGNH posts. Beepu and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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