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We can place Oscar, Mata, and Hazard anywhere in the 3 midfield. But if Lampard and Mikel are still our defensive midfielders, we will still see the same outcome

I don't see how it would produce the same outcome...?

You will argue that lampard isn't defensive enough and will venture forward which will cause gaps, however i think that firstly that 3 will produce much more chances than a 3 with Raul meireles and Ramires, which should well mean more goals, than we have and definately more creativity... It will also mean greater possession of the ball, which means less of them with the ball.... Also lampard will have less need to venture forward as we will have players capable of creating things, especially with mata back, who is great at setting people up...

For me the outcome will not be the same with those 3...

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Totally agree.... My biggest concern, is that he will play Mata Hazard Ramires... Which would really worry me... But i am fully behind RDM, and hope he will play: Mata Oscar Hazard...

Oscar will play don't worry. He's too talented not to play.

For how good players like Marin and Hazard are, they don't control the tempo of games which has been the biggest problem in pre season. We've missed the presence of Mata dictating the game, and RDM will realise just how fluent we can function with two players of that ilk.

It will also solve these worries of our formation. Oscar likes to drop deeper than Mata and Hazard and giving him the central role will allow us to switch freely between a more attacking 4-2-3-1 and a more compact and disciplined 4-3-3 when defending with Oscar dropping into the midfield alongside the pivot.

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Oscar will play don't worry. He's too talented not to play.

For how good players like Marin and Hazard are, they don't control the tempo of games which has been the biggest problem in pre season. We've missed the presence of Mata dictating the game, and RDM will realise just how fluent we can function with two players of that ilk.

It will also solve these worries of our formation. Oscar likes to drop deeper than Mata and Hazard and giving him the central role will allow us to switch freely between a more attacking 4-2-3-1 and a more compact and disciplined 4-3-3 when defending with Oscar dropping into the midfield alongside the pivot.

Oscar should be a great thing for hazard as well as it would give him a bit more license to have a go and run at defenders, with oscar there to back him up and try and control the play, as in pre season, we were giving it early to hazard who then had less options ahead of him...

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This game enforced my opinion that he shouldn't be played in the double pivot, but rather as the CAM in a 4-2-3-1 or in the Lampard role in 4-3-3. I don't know where that leaves Hazard and Mata, but he definitely must play. 4-2-3-1 is fluid enough not to worry about the positions, Oscar can exchange between either flanks.

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Oscar should be a great thing for hazard as well as it would give him a bit more license to have a go and run at defenders, with oscar there to back him up and try and control the play, as in pre season, we were giving it early to hazard who then had less options ahead of him...

Hazard is not a natural playmaker like Mata is and Oscar seems to be. With those two in the side, it will take a lot of pressure off Hazard to be able to play his own game and not take on total responsibility for the team dynamic. Opposition will also be unable to focus on one player - as last season moved on, teams would get a player to sit on Mata and it took a lot from our team. Opposition cannot man mark three players.

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This game enforced my opinion that he shouldn't be played in the double pivot, but rather as the CAM in a 4-2-3-1 or in the Lampard role in 4-3-3. I don't know where that leaves Hazard and Mata, but he definitely must play. 4-2-3-1 is fluid enough not to worry about the positions, Oscar can exchange between either flanks.

Agreed, he's too good to be given a disciplined role within the pivot. As I've said previously central in a 4-2-3-1 and he seems more than happy to drop deep and help the pivot start attacks, and sit in to create a more compact 4-3-3 when defending.

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Literally i can't wait to see these 3 in a line, i am not saying we are gonna go from losing to brighton to world beaters but it should eliminate some (NOT ALL) of the problems we are having, and that should have a knock on effect... I.E.

Greater players on the ball = more possesion = less posession for them = less need for our double pivot to play too advanced = less vulnerable on the counter = more chances for us = more goals for us..

Obviously this is way too generalised and simplistic and all "in theory", but the addition of oscar and Mata can only improve this squad... :)

And Oscar gets free reign in the CAM position which he doesn't have in any other position, as he doesn't have the pace of someone like hazard to play on the wing, which imo would be a waste of his talents... Also him being too deep, will just cause what lampard did as he may venture forward and leave us vulenerable on the counter... Also i don't think he needs to be used in a defensive manor, but him playing at cam will help our defence as he can drob deep at times and drift across the pitch as we have all seen him do for brazil.

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Oscar started the game on the wings and didnt make a impact and we all saw how Brazil started the game... the minute he went to a more central position Brazil just grabed the game in their hands. Oscar needs to play in a central position, the number 10 role fits him the best but would be good as the 2 behind in a 4-2-3-1 formation. I really dont want to see him as a winger.

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and what if Hulk will come as well? oh...poor BPL teams :dance:

If hulk comes picking the team will be :blink::cry: , but it would be a good problem to have... If Hulk comes then i suppose it would have to be:

Mata Hazard Hulk

Mikel Oscar

But i don't know.... it would be a completely different team, and is one of the reasons why i am not too bothered about hulk coming...

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Oscar started the game on the wings and didnt make a impact and we all saw how Brazil started the game... the minute he went to a more central position Brazil just grabed the game in their hands. Oscar needs to play in a central position, the number 10 role fits him the best but would be good as the 2 behind in a 4-2-3-1 formation. I really dont want to see him as a winger.

I don't think Oscar was actually told to play on the wings or the middle. I think he is told to roam around the pitch working possession and covering whichever wing or deep player had advanced. He is a true Brazilian number 10. He is like their 'get out of jail card', he is normally always available and this is just the kind of player we need to have starting in the hole behind Torres.

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yeah i dont see a fault in hazard oscar mata. all roaming. im actually happy we went with cheap(er) cm and cheap (rw.) i mean were'nt we all debating months ago (modric or hulk, modic or hulk) but we got OSCAR! its amazing what a good scout team does, and boy we have a good one especially in (south america!).

idk what to say, just has soo much upside. he has nice eye for goal, great distribution, hard-worker.

just wana see him play in chelsea blue.

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For all those who think Oscar will play No.10 role, you all are in for a disappointment. He will mainly play the Pirlo Role. He will play in the Pivot and spray passes around the field. In other games he will also play the no.10 role but I am sure he is brought to play the playmakers role from the midfield.

In the games I have seen he collects the ball from the defense and works it around and goes up the field and again falls back when they lose possesion.

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For all those who think Oscar will play No.10 role, you all are in for a disappointment. He will mainly play the Pirlo Role. He will play in the Pivot and spray passes around the field. In other games he will also play the no.10 role but I am sure he is brought to play the playmakers role from the midfield.

In the games I have seen he collects the ball from the defense and works it around and goes up the field and again falls back when they lose possesion.

kinda agree with this. I think if we saw Mata playing with that brazil team, we'd be saying he needs to be our #10. Just because Oscar is good at #10 doesnt mean he won't be as good in a formation similar to 4141. But I'm not sure how we'd look defensively.
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