positivefootball 195 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Of course he looks better when Jose is gone. It makes no sense for a #10 to play like Terry or Zouma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He - alongside with Willian, Azpili, JT - had been one of the few players to receive support from the crowd. The only sub that wasn't booed.The crowd - that represents my feelings to a tee - made a mistake here. Clearly he also had problems with Mourinho and refused to play to his capability.And that's the problem I have with this assemble of players we currently have. They have nothing on JT, Lamps, DD that a few years did the same to Scolari - Scolari who had nothing on Mourinho either.It's a shame how this team completely changed its attitude now. They don't have my support - although I appreciate the win and I don't mind Riddink. It's just that it shows their character and I don't think we can win anything with those buggers.Oscar had one of his best matches playing for us - and that says more about how average he's been, than exactly his quality there today - which was undeniable.I just can't brush off my disappointment with how the players behaved. It looks like if Roman didn't act, they'd have the team relegated without a second thought. Shameful. stroey, didierforever and Sir Mikel OBE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakhov 253 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He - alongside with Willian, Azpili, JT - had been one of the few players to receive support from the crowd. The only sub that wasn't booed.The crowd - that represents my feelings to a tee - made a mistake here. Clearly he also had problems with Mourinho and refused to play to his capability.And that's the problem I have with this assemble of players we currently have. They have nothing on JT, Lamps, DD that a few years did the same to Scolari - Scolari who had nothing on Mourinho either.It's a shame how this team completely changed its attitude now. They don't have my support - although I appreciate the win and I don't mind Riddink. It's just that it shows their character and I don't think we can win anything with those buggers.Oscar had one of his best matches playing for us - and that says more about how average he's been, than exactly his quality there today - which was undeniable.I just can't brush off my disappointment with how the players behaved. It looks like if Roman didn't act, they'd have the team relegated without a second thought. Shameful.I think the reason why he had such a good game is because Sunderland sat off of us early on allowing our midfield more freedom. In previous games most of the teams pressed our creative players and defended better in numbers.His influence waned after Sunderland got more confidence with their goal. Says it all for me at least.I don't believe he has any reason to play like crap and then suddenly turn it on as he pleases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It's sad when people claim Oscar doesn't have a very high peak or is simply average when at his best. With that said, he will probably play like shit next match due to his consistency problems. Hope I'm wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I was happy with the teams performance, I have to say that I don't want to be a buzzkiller but he got too many chances ffs it's getting annoying. If RLC got half as many starts then he would perform much much better. We all know how inconsistent Oscar is. This performance was not even that good, look at what De Bruyne does for City or what Coutinho does for Liverpool. Let's hope Hiddink doesn't get fooled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He - alongside with Willian, Azpili, JT - had been one of the few players to receive support from the crowd. The only sub that wasn't booed.The crowd - that represents my feelings to a tee - made a mistake here. Clearly he also had problems with Mourinho and refused to play to his capability.And that's the problem I have with this assemble of players we currently have. They have nothing on JT, Lamps, DD that a few years did the same to Scolari - Scolari who had nothing on Mourinho either.It's a shame how this team completely changed its attitude now. They don't have my support - although I appreciate the win and I don't mind Riddink. It's just that it shows their character and I don't think we can win anything with those buggers.Oscar had one of his best matches playing for us - and that says more about how average he's been, than exactly his quality there today - which was undeniable.I just can't brush off my disappointment with how the players behaved. It looks like if Roman didn't act, they'd have the team relegated without a second thought. Shameful.You can't come to this conclusion if you don't know what happened behind the scenes. Mourinho was no saint. Hybrid Angel, Henrique and bellion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He was really good. He always had it in him to perform like this. The only question is why can't he do it consistently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 You can't come to this conclusion if you don't know what happened behind the scenes. Mourinho was no saint. never said he was... but players were refusing to play. I did some analysis. We played the same we did with Mourinho in charge. The difference? We didn't have a load of incomplete passes, players barely trying. The positioning, movement was barely improved - also a reflection of attitude if you ask me.I wanted Mourinho to leave at the end of the season, he needs to seriously reinvent his tactics and while he's at it, to learn how to manage his relationships with everyone, not only the ones that love him. I believe his feud with Eva created an environment that was toxic, players already have a hard time with him criticizing them to the press, so in the end he created this and was the main root to his dismissal. It doesn't change the fact those very well paid players couldn't give a fuck about Chelsea FC as long as they had Mourinho out.Maybe it's utopia on my part, but I want my players to honor the shirt they put on. If you're in denial about their attitude there today, then it's up to you. It's as clear as midday sun imo... Kieran., didierforever and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I was happy with the teams performance, I have to say that I don't want to be a buzzkiller but he got too many chances ffs it's getting annoying. If RLC got half as many starts then he would perform much much better. We all know how inconsistent Oscar is. This performance was not even that good, look at what De Bruyne does for City or what Coutinho does for Liverpool. Let's hope Hiddink doesn't get fooled.Lmao get the fuck out. This was the best individual performance by a Chelsea player this season.I do agree he needs consistency. Let's see how he does without Mourinho Blue Colored Sky and positivefootball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Lmao get the fuck out. This was the best individual performance by a Chelsea player this season.I do agree he needs consistency. Let's see how he does without MourinhoHe was always average mate and if u don't see that then I feel sorry for you. Oscar couldn't lace De Bruynes boots. I have no idea what people see in him. Reddish-Blue, Blue-in-me-Veins and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 probably worth hanging on to him, in january now, really impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He was always average mate and if u don't see that then I feel sorry for you. Oscar couldn't lace De Bruynes boots. I have no idea what people see in him.What does De Bruyne have to do with anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 What does De Bruyne have to do with anything?He is an example of what a real world class player should be, he is in the BPL AND we sold him to give Oscar a chance. Thats why I'm mentioning De Bruyne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 A lot of people around me at the stadium were bemused that he suddenly looks like a good player now that Jose has gone. He could actually control the ball and was involved in nearly everything we did, the complete opposite of before.He got a good reception when he went off but was a target for the 'where were you when we were shit' chant. didierforever and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 A lot of people around me at the stadium were bemused that he suddenly looks like a good player now that Jose has gone. He could actually control the ball and was involved in nearly everything we did, the complete opposite of before.He got a good reception when he went off but was a target for the 'where were you when we were shit' chant.To be fair, he did have those kind of games under Mourinho as well. But it's like everyone else has said, the problem with him is inconsistency. And it probably won't be long before we see play like some sort of Championship player again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Had like 3 times more touches that in each match in the last months. He was at centre in everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDRECHO 432 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 ON FIRE !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He is an example of what a real world class player should be, he is in the BPL AND we sold him to give Oscar a chance. Thats why I'm mentioning De Bruyne.Why are you acting like he and KDB couldn't co-exist? De Bruyne is practically a forward, Oscar's a midfielder. Not his fault Jose got rid. lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Why are you acting like he and KDB couldn't co-exist? De Bruyne is practically a forward, Oscar's a midfielder. Not his fault Jose got rid.Did kdb not set up oscar , for our 1st mourinho goal? Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Why are you acting like he and KDB couldn't co-exist? De Bruyne is practically a forward, Oscar's a midfielder. Not his fault Jose got rid.What are you on about? Are you seriously justifying that it was the right move to pick Oscar over KDB? Don't come up with bs arguments such as "KDB basically is a forward". He is a bloody midfielder and a very good one at that. Oscar is an inconsistent average player that belongs in a club like Napoli. I think that I'm wasting my time by trying to explain to basics of football to you. So imma stop. stroey, guddy69 and bethos1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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