Las7 951 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Can't wait until the EPL starts all these signing will give us a completely new outlook and approach to games. After winning the CL, with a core that's been around for nearly a decade - we now are building up another CL winning squad.Happy days. Haven't seen much of Oscar so I will be watching the Olympics very closely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGuerreiro 252 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I'm not disturbed by that at all. Arsenal could have had a phenomenal squad that would have been up with best in Europe had they spent some money on experience players and some decent defenders.Also, their problem has been that all of their best players have left when they reached their peak. Nasri, Fabregas, Adebayor, Toure (even Glichy and Flamini to some extent) and now Persie. I'm sure their team would be a lot, lot stronger if those players would've stayed. Fortunately we have never had this problem and probably never will while we have mr. Abramovich. Joker10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Just because a player is playing slightly wider than the man in the middle doesn't necessarily make him a winger, unless we want to introduce a 4-1-1-1-1-1-1 formation so everyone can play in the middle. They are just 3 attacking players in front or 2 defensive ones. Hazard and Mata are LW's by trade, even Mata introduced himself in a vid i saw a few days ago as a LW. And even Marin, by trade is a LW. They all played LW for their previous clubs and just like Ashley young, who is also a LW by trade, they can all play as a SS or CAM. Oscar is a CAM so he has more chance playing in the middle because all the others can play wider and have experience wider but they will probably interchange between themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Just because a player is playing slightly wider than the man in the middle doesn't necessarily make him a winger, unless we want to introduce a 4-1-1-1-1-1-1 formation so everyone can play in the middle. They are just 3 attacking players in front or 2 defensive ones. Hazard and Mata are LW's by trade, even Mata introduced himself in a vid i saw a few days ago as a LW.this was exactly what I was reffering to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Mata on the left wing is a crime, let alone on the right.According to Henrique, his original position is on the right wing and I believe that is where he will feature most here. It's the only way this transfer would make sense to me.How is Mata on the left wing a crime? He was our best player at the start of the season from the left, he made his name on the left too and its where he's broken into the spanish national team. He's brilliant there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 How is Mata on the left wing a crime? He was our best player at the start of the season from the left, he made his name on the left too and its where he's broken into the spanish national team. He's brilliant thereHe made his name because he has world-class passing skills, vision and intelligence, that has nothing to do with were he is playing. Yes he was deployed on the left at the start of last season but always "naturally" drifted centrally. Even under AVB, whenever we used 4-2-3-1 (which was AVB's plan 'B') Mata played in the hole because it was obvious (to me at least) that on the wing he more often than not leaves Cole on his own defensively. Even on the offense, despite having exceptional dribbling skills, he lacks the pace to beat most defenders on the flanks especially on counter attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Brazil vs Egypt tonight at 19:45 GMT. Oscar will probably play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 He made his name because he has world-class passing skills, vision and intelligence, that has nothing to do with were he is playing. Yes he was deployed on the left at the start of last season but always "naturally" drifted centrally. Even under AVB, whenever we used 4-2-3-1 (which was AVB's plan 'B') Mata played in the hole because it was obvious (to me at least) that on the wing he more often than not leaves Cole on his own defensively. Even on the offense, despite having exceptional dribbling skills, he lacks the pace to beat most defenders on the flanks especially on counter attacks.Yes and he was showing that intelligence and passing playing on the left and drifting all over the place. That drifting is also the beauty of Mata, that's what made him so hard to mark and track. Not saying that he wasn't good in the centre, but he was perfectly fine on the left and was why people were raving about him. Part of the reason why Cole was exposed was not just because Mata was in front of him but because of how high and aggressive Avb made the team press playing in a 433. This is completely different to playing wide in a 4231 and Rdm doesn't seem to be as aggressive as Avb was in his pressing and pressurising game. Mata also isn't your typical winger so it doesn't matter if he's not beating people for pace, he was still dangerous playing on the left because of his drifting etc. Being a winger isn't all about pace, you get different types of wingers just like you get different types of number 10s. This is off topic though. I hope Oscar plays central with Mata right and Hazard left Miguelito 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Brazil vs Egypt tonight at 19:45 GMT. Oscar will probably play Tell us how he goes. I can't watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Will be streamed here.Tell us how he goes. I can't watch it.Of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Surely he starts tonight... right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Just a heads up to all the english folk out there, the brazil game vs egypt is on bbc olympics 3HD from 7:35... If you have virgin media thats channel 552.Fuck Team GB, thats what i am gonna be watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Surely he starts tonight... right?Yep, same lineup as the last friendly I believe.Definitely watching this one over Team GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yep, same lineup as the last friendly I believe.Definitely watching this one over Team GB.Amen to that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Oscar has a decent-ish cross on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 OMG, THAT PASS TO MARCELO! <3333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Sublime ball to Marcelo just then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 looking great already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 ASSIST... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Brilliant pass to Rafeal, brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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