Stats 7,147 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Thing is Baines is not bad defensively. He is just very attacking but most matches he does well defensively and attacking wise. At us, we need more from our fullbacks going forward if we want to push on. For instance against Benfica how many times did Cole get forward compared to their LB. Hardly, and that is not because of what we tell him to do, he just does not have the pace and attacking play that he once had. Annoying because with Baines in our team we would improve much more but with Cole signing a contract that is not going to happen.People say Cole is still brilliant defensively but he has been very error prone this season and been bullied off the ball. I mentioned which players have skinned him in another thread somewhere so I will not go over that again. But I look at other big clubs and their LB and I feel Cole should be doing more. I only think it is his rep keeping that notion that he is the best LB in the world.With Shaw, I would love to have him here eventually but next season he will certainly be at Southampton without a doubt. Hopefully in a few years time he will be ready to be the no.1 left back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Because shaw would be better off playing in the first team for soton than being a backup to Cole like bertrand is now, who seems to be fine with his role.shaw could actually challenge cole for his spot. bertrand cant do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drog.ba 239 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Sign him now and loan him, back for a season or two until Cole retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2aD10lIvMk Faster,,more confident,,likely to cross. i'll say yes for this Kids,,can he turn to Winger just like Bale did??? Amazing talent. Defensively solid, composed, quick and very strong for his age. He will only get better. I like Bertrand, I think he's a good squad player. But I don't think he's good enough to be first choice for this club. Shaw has that potential.Err, what happened to not believe in Youtube videos because it only makes everyone look good?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Err, what happened to not believe in Youtube videos because it only makes everyone look good??well we all watched him in the match vs us and he was very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 well we all watched him in the match vs us and he was very good.That was one match! He's been pretty average in many others. It's only natural that he isn't consistent yet, he's only 18! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Bertrand has played 150 games on loan, lack of experience is not his problem. Why take a player out who is already a part of the squad and replace him with s.o. who is not?I would like to see what Bertrand can do over the course of a season playing at a competitive level in his own position. That won't happen at Chelsea. Rather that than watch his career stagnate, because Mourinho is bound to pick Cole as his first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybodyisready 155 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Lettuce beef cereal, Shaw > Bertrand any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If he ever comes, he is bound to be our future captain. Not imediately, but in few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If he ever comes, he is bound to be our future captain. Not imediately, but in few years...i would definitely tip chalobah over shaw for future captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 i would definitely tip chalobah over shaw for future captainI would too, but for some reason i think it will be shaw due to more experience (he is already playing in Pl) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 That was one match! He's been pretty average in many others. It's only natural that he isn't consistent yet, he's only 18! Nope. He's actually 17, so he should really be more consistent...oh, wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Do want shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Teenage prospect Luke Shaw to stay at Southampton despite interest from Chelseahttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/10072222/Teenage-prospect-Luke-Shaw-to-stay-at-Southampton-despite-interest-from-Chelsea.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 seems that all our transfer targets are swimming away :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ash is done. Bring this lad in please.He's actually my dream signing. Him and Azpi on either flank would be immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ash is done. Bring this lad in please.He's actually my dream signing. Him and Azpi on either flank would be immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Is it just me or people are really starting to over rate a 17 yr old left back. Yes, he has potential but its not as if he has taken PL by storm. let him grow up for a bit and then take from there! I certainly don't see him starting for Chelsea for the next 3 years even if we buy him this summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ash offers nothing in attack anymore and only shows up in European fixtures these days.With this being his final year at the club and with Ryan continuing to be mediocre at best, Shaw would be a terrific understudy and eventual replacement.We've already signed Didier's, Lamps', JT's and Cech's eventual replacements. What's wrong with one for Cole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Is it just me or people are really starting to over rate a 17 yr old left back. Yes, he has potential but its not as if he has taken PL by storm. let him grow up for a bit and then take from there! I certainly don't see him starting for Chelsea for the next 3 years even if we buy him this summer!We over rate anything that is English! No but on a serious note, he is good. With the Home Grown talent, he is a far better buy then any other LB out there. Him and Bertrand should do good for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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