Stingray 9,441 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Lol, that says a lot about your faith in him now. I love Hazard, don't get me wrong. But if he leaves, he leaves. Just like when Robben left, and more recently Mata, we'll keep going and hopefully become better as a team. Hazard had a huge hand in us conceding two goals, while he contributed to absolute 0 in attack that was effective. If you can't even do the job right upfront, you don't get to have any room for mistakes defensively. At least do that right.Maybe Ron (zolayes) with his age and experience has a time horizon for Chelsea that far exceeds all of ours.... sal. Also Hazard contributing zero in attack? Really? zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Lol, that says a lot about your faith in him now. I love Hazard, don't get me wrong. But if he leaves, he leaves. Just like when Robben left, and more recently Mata, we'll keep going and hopefully become better as a team. Hazard had a huge hand in us conceding two goals, while he contributed to absolute 0 in attack that was effective. If you can't even do the job right upfront, you don't get to have any room for mistakes defensively. At least do that right.DONT lecture me about faith ,,, No player is bigger than club BUT NEITHER is ANY manager Henrique, FabHazard and BlueSunshine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Lol, that says a lot about your faith in him now. I love Hazard, don't get me wrong. But if he leaves, he leaves. Just like when Robben left, and more recently Mata, we'll keep going and hopefully become better as a team. Hazard had a huge hand in us conceding two goals, while he contributed to absolute 0 in attack that was effective. If you can't even do the job right upfront, you don't get to have any room for mistakes defensively. At least do that right.If Hazard leaves, Im pretty sure this forum will lose quite a few members. But as you say, he is just another player. We won many titles without him and we shall win many more if he decides to leave. Hope he doesnt but this is football. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If Hazard leaves, Im pretty sure this forum will lose quite a few members. But as you say, he is just another player. We won many titles without him and we shall win many more if he decides to leave. Hope he doesnt but this is football.we won the PL .. F A cup CL and Europa League without ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 It will be fineEmotions run high after a defeat like that.The press will play it up to sell papers - wouldn't surprise me if Hazard and Mourinho are 'trolling' the Press... I could imagine them agreeing to say something and stir up speculation... If I was them I would... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Remember Eden Hazard after the #Atletico Madrid game: "Often, I'm asked to do it all by myself and it's not easy" #CFCChelsea legend Frank Leboeuf: "We know that behind the scenes, Hazard complains about the lack of center forward" #CFC (RMC) And 24 hours later, Chelsea are close to completing the deal for Diego Costa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted May 2, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 2, 2014 If hes mucking about, angling for a way out ala Robben, he can fuck off, no player bigger than the club etc.However, its more than likely the media meddling as usual in undermining the greatest London club kellzfresh, Blue Traveler, Sal and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I did say effectively. He didn't contribute anything that really lead to a goal for us.I didn't say that I'd lose faith in someone if anyone left. You're the one who said that, not I. If tomorrow Mourinho wakes up and leaves Chelsea, it'll all be the same as anyone else leaving Chelsea. I'm a Chelsea FC supporter here, after all. So yeah, that little attempt of yours to question my faith is pretty ridiculous, especially after what you said. My faith will be at Chelsea and those who are in it, regardless of who leaves. When Mourinho leaves, none for him. And when Hazard leaves, none for him. simples.I hope he doesn't as well. Will miss him a lot, probably.I Didnt question your faith ,, YOU questioned MINE ...ive kept the faith for over 30 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 He obviously had a great career and you should respect that, but look who's finally in the CL final with the exact same team minus José, Ozil and Higuain + Bale. Madrid.Yes, the reason Madrid are in the final is because Jose is no longer there. Because there are absolutely no other variables involved. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the main European contenders in the past few years, namely Barca, Bayern, and Dortmund have weakened greatly this season. Seriously... kellzfresh, Muzchap, darrus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Greyco 143 Posted May 2, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 2, 2014 Lol, that says a lot about your faith in him now. I love Hazard, don't get me wrong. But if he leaves, he leaves. Just like when Robben left, and more recently Mata, we'll keep going and hopefully become better as a team. Hazard had a huge hand in us conceding two goals, while he contributed to absolute 0 in attack that was effective. If you can't even do the job right upfront, you don't get to have any room for mistakes defensively. At least do that right.Maybe we should start trying to play in a way that doesn't require offensive players to intercept crosses on the goal line.I didn't see the Atletico wingers, who work as hard as anyone in world football, needing to track their oppossing full backs to their own goal line. You can't ask that from a winger and than expect him to be creative at the other end. Stingray, zolayes, Hamilton and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Maybe we should start trying to play in a way that doesn't require offensive players to intercept crosses on the goal line.I didn't see the Atletico wingers, who work as hard as anyone in world football, needing to track their oppossing full backs to their own goal line. You can't ask that from a winger and than expect him to be creative at the other end. AT LAST ,,,, our left winger was criticised for not stopping their player on OUR goal line .. tracking back is one thing but ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Maybe we should start trying to play in a way that doesn't require offensive players to intercept crosses on the goal line.I didn't see the Atletico wingers, who work as hard as anyone in world football, needing to track their oppossing full backs to their own goal line. You can't ask that from a winger and than expect him to be creative at the other end. The voice of reason .... I kinda like that. Eden2020 and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IliyaDamyanov 43 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 sell him and buy 5 more defenders...in fact sell all your attacking players , let's play 10-0-0 from the next season.... ZOS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I don't care about Ronaldo, Bale , Messi or any big name let alone Hazard who is just in the beginning of the way with a lot to prove. Jose is the boss he calls the shots you follow orders no matter what. Some times we play attacking football some time we park the bus and play ultra-defensive you have to do the job given to you. It doesn't suit you? not to your taste? then YOU CAN GET THE FUCK OFF....as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted May 2, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 2, 2014 What a bitter end of season (not even bittersweet, plain bitter instead).Instead of feeling proud - even if disappointed by the way things panned out in the EPL losses and the UCL elimination - we're taking sides between our most important player (at least in theory) and our manager.I read somewhere the whole interview translated (many, many, many pages back in this thread there's the entire thing in French in video and printed) and at least the version I read Eden implied something about playing alone - which is ALWAYS a bad statement to do because I think it's very disregarding towards your teammates. I don't think it was a jab at Mourinho's tactics, but I think it's unfair to the rest of the team - IF that was the original statement at all, my French is too rusty for me to try to figure it out myself).While I don't appreciate Mourinho for pointing out Eden made a mistake because seems like he's showcasing him alone (and we had a lot of problems that match), I won't make a fuzz about it. The same way I didn't about the 'my wife' comments, or the 'Chelsea don't play football - which should be translated with the ball' things. The media is trying to make a circus out of it and it's sad our own fans are buying it.Hazard made a few mistakes in the match, so did many others, including in the goals. I do think the first Atletico goal was a capital one and why we lost, I do think Schurrle or Willian would have done better if they were at Hazard's position because they've been doing exactly that in the last few matches, including against Liverpool and the first leg in Madrid. So the kid made a mistake. Get over it, Terry also made one in the PSG first leg, so did Cech, Luiz, etc... Mistakes are part of football and we don't need to crucify the boy and I don't think Mourinho was crucifying him either. I do think though he could have handled it better. Mourinho bit the bait the media planted to him. They want to make a mess in out dressing room and I do hope Mourinho learned from the Spanish media gate. While the journos there are disgusting, Mourinho isn't a saint himself and although the main reason things got out of hand in Madrid was because of player power, he handled the media poorly.So at the end of the day we lost a UCL SF in a frustrating way. We were outplayed, we had a shot when it was 1x0 for us, but we weren't good enough in the end. It's time to regroup and get over, but instead the media - at least in this forum and I hope that's not how it is inside the club - is successful in creating an unnecessary crisis. 30 teams were eliminated in the UCL. We were the last ones. It happens. Next year I have no doubts we'll be fighting for it again. No need to point fingers to our manager - who made mistakes; or to any of our players - who also made mistakes, when in the end collectively we just weren't good enough.A bad atmosphere only makes this elimination worse than it really is and creates a lot of unnecessary issues. Hamilton, kellzfresh, zolayes and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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