zolayes 14,489 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 To be honest, I must agree with Kojo here, although I will change something.Kojo said that Hazard showed nothing special in terms of creativity and passing. He made average passes through pre-season which every person who play football should be capable of. Everyone must agree with this (don't forget we're judging Eden from 3 games). Kojo then questioned his future potential and meant that if he continues to play like this he won't be worth his money.Bang...And look what this turned into... Hazard should score hattricks, have passing accuracy 100% and so on. What the fuck? Where did he say Eden should score hattrick every game. He just said that he didn't play as he expected one of the most promising young players to play, yet. He said he didn't play good until now and not that he won't ever play good.I sometimes think people read quickly and missread some posts and understand them completely differently.This is forum and everyone has his own opinions and this what makes us disscuss and expand our knowledge about football. I think none thread (as stupid as it is) should be closed when someone express his opinion.And for those who say they will leave after someone express different opinion. You act like wussies, cry like little babies over nothing, whine and create unneeded drama. High school drama queens. If your boss at work tells you you've done something wrong will you take your job card and never come back again?Think about it.well I think your post is pathetic and does you no credit ,just my opinion of course ,which I have stated without being offensive Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 A lot better.Nonsense, even Cristiano Ronaldo is jealous of Joe Messi's immaculate abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Hazard has been very impressive so far and will only get better! people saying he hasn't shown much creativity yet but what has he had to work with in front of him? he has had Lukaku who's movement isn't exactly great is it! just wait until he plays with Torres and people will see how Hazard can open up defenses! TrippingStep and Hamilton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 TorresMata Oscar HazardRamires MikelSpeedCreativity Intelligence ExplosivenessHeart Control The Skipper, Naked Mole Rat and Pacquiao 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 TorresMata Oscar HazardRamires MikelSpeedCreativity Intelligence ExplosivenessHeart Controlthat formation looks excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I've had serious doubts about you, but it's the only post what has actually not been blinded by anything.People can't agree with my points because they either don't like the fact I'm going on about there favorite player, they either agree with my points themselves but they're in denial. I'm no saint, i could be wrong, and i hope i am. Some people are either jumping on the bandwagon and not even posting a constructive argument at all, HUTCHO CFC for example, that's all he does, never posts any points he just tries to fit in.It's pre season yes, but lets say if he did something really good, you would say he's brilliant and a future Messi no?, so in a way you've done the same thing what you have accused me of doing. I'm not going on about pre season anyway, that's just what people are claiming. I've pointed out that Hazard is average at many things but is very fancy on the ball, and that's worrying for me. People now think I'm hating on him and just going mad because we lost to the MLS all stars.That's not it at all, he just doesn't impress me that much, not as much as Marin. I've watched his Lillie games and i think he's just fancy on the ball, but because i said this, I'm a hazard hater, I've been questioned of even been a supporter of this club, I'm getting accusations I'm a troll... and it goes on and on.Yeah mate, of course you have, you have read every single post i have made haven't you. Just because i don't be deliberately controvesial like you, and have to change my name because you piss off a lot of the members in here. Just because you disagree with me, you start going crazy about it, what posts have i made to try and fit in.?.. As you keep saying its a forum so all opinions are valid. My opinions are mine, so it doesn't matter if they correspond to everyone else or not. I have watched chelsea since i was 4, so am entitled to say what i wan't about that. Perhaps you should spend less time, trying to get into arguments with everyone, and stop posting in ways that many people deem to be aggressive, loads of people are even posting that you do this all the time and are just taking the piss (so you clearly have a history of this sort of thing, which doesn't give creditability to what you say)... Don't start having ago at me, because 75% of people disagree with you, it's not what you say its the way you say it. .... Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 TorresMata Oscar HazardRamires MikelSpeedCreativity Intelligence ExplosivenessHeart Controlonly thing with that team is how many of those players are going to score you 20+ goals a season? some of them will really need to step up in the goals department for it to be a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 only thing with that team is how many of those players are going to score you 20+ goals a season? some of them will really need to step up in the goals department for it to be a success.Which is why we need another Striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 only thing with that team is how many of those players are going to score you 20+ goals a season? some of them will really need to step up in the goals department for it to be a success.2 x 30 = 603 x 20 =604 x 15 = 60 and dont forget our defenders usually chip in with a few. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Which is why we need another Striker. Pacquiao, Hamilton and KonohasOrangeFlash 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 ^^^^^ I fucking wish. That man is a downright Monster at scoring goals. Our best bet is this man, who is just about as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Some of the overreaction on Hazard here is just silly and all of this is because people are expecting him to tear every opponent into pieces. Strike and TorontoChelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 well I think your post is pathetic and does you no credit ,just my opinion of course ,which I have stated without being offensiveHow would you rate Hazard in pre season?From 1-5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 How would you rate Hazard in pre season?From 1-5?IMO probably about 3.5/4 out of 5, he was regarded as the best player for us in his debut game, which i think was a fair anyalysis, as he showed some good skills, was great on the ball, and caused seatlle, all kinds of problems, He was still good against Psg, and whilst wasn't our best player, i was still impressed by him, compared to some of our players, and he still hadn't played 90 mins total... And the third game is the only one where much didn't happen, he came on with 25 mins to go, put in a good cross, and that was about it... But you can't all of a sudden write a player off after 25 mins in a game in pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 How would you rate Hazard in pre season?From 1-5?I think Hutcho has rated it fairly ...why I thought your post was wrong ,,,was your description of people who object to being insulted .. I dont consider them "drama queens " or cry babies.. and I was disappointed that a Moderator should use such terms . O bviously you didnt understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I think Hutcho has rated it fairly ...why I thought your post was wrong ,,,was your description of people who object to being insulted .. I dont consider them "drama queens " or cry babies.. and I was disappointed that a Moderator should use such terms . O bviously you didnt understand this.Look, if someone express different (maybe even weird) opinion, you don't need to call him words and make fun of him. I know most of users leave because quality of forum was "worse", but why not to try to make it "better" with arguments for or against. I was talking about different opinion not about SPAM or trolling, which shouldn't be tolerated. Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! bababoom 4,478 Posted July 28, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted July 28, 2012 It's was fucking pre season game, i actually think Sloth had a knee jerk reaction but because he's stubborn he wants to carry on the argument, it's embarrassing. Sheva., Pacquiao, TorontoChelsea and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Look, if someone express different (maybe even weird) opinion, you don't need to call him words and make fun of him. I know most of users leave because quality of forum was "worse", but why not to try to make it "better" with arguments for or against. I was talking about different opinion not about SPAM or trolling, which shouldn't be tolerated.forget it ...you dont understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yeah mate, of course you have, you have read every single post i have made haven't you. Just because i don't be deliberately controvesial like you, and have to change my name because you piss off a lot of the members in here. Just because you disagree with me, you start going crazy about it, what posts have i made to try and fit in.?.. As you keep saying its a forum so all opinions are valid. My opinions are mine, so it doesn't matter if they correspond to everyone else or not. I have watched chelsea since i was 4, so am entitled to say what i wan't about that. Perhaps you should spend less time, trying to get into arguments with everyone, and stop posting in ways that many people deem to be aggressive, loads of people are even posting that you do this all the time and are just taking the piss (so you clearly have a history of this sort of thing, which doesn't give creditability to what you say)... Don't start having ago at me, because 75% of people disagree with you, it's not what you say its the way you say it. ....Well someone thinks they know who I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Well someone thinks they know who I am.? It's just based on everyones reaction after what hapenned at the end of the MLS all stars game, and several of your posts since i have been on here... And then people tell me that everyone you say is just you joking or being sarcastic... I.e. All your Kalou posts. I don't have a problem with your opinion, everyone has one, i disagree with it and i have said that, i think that hazard had shown creativity, especailly in the first game... And now you name me in all of your posts, because i agree with other people on the matter... I don't see what your big problem with me is to be honest, as i said all posts are my own opinion, if that means i agree with others then so be it, it doesn't bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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