Eden Hazard

[LondonsFinest 692]

I will once again be the person to defend Hazard. Are we really undermining Willian? Matic? Alonso? Kante isn't a fantastic ball player, but he is alright. Now, what I am saying is not that Hazard is fucking unreal, don't get me wrong. He isn't playing to his best self, but he tried so much to actually do something. He can't do it by himself, lads. He did it once in Jose's season, but he had Cesc next to him, Diego and Remy were good link - up play. 

 

The triangles Conte's basing his game on involves technicality and fantastic link - up play to get into good positions. Matic - Alonso - Hazard is one of these. Moving from Alonso - Hazard - Diego. Out of these, excluding Eden, only Diego can actually have proper movement, good link up play and intelligence, and even he isn't amazing. Saying it again, it's not me saying Hazard is unreal, just that the criticism, that he isn't showing the wankfesting PASHUN and doesn't track back like under Jose, is absolutely stupid. 

 

I'm not saying he shouldn't grab the game by the scruff of the neck, but f*ck me, with what support. In the positions which we got pressurised, Alonso and Matic were constantly making stupid passes, losing possession, bare movement. I realize the game plan was to sit back and absorb the pressure, but when the possession comes to us, we have to be ruthless. One-two-three passes and for us to be in something close to actually creating a chance. Do we have that? Do we really have that? No. Willian useless, Matic - meh, Alonso - useless. It's basically expecting Messi to actually be scoring hattricks with Cattermole and Papy Souare. Hopefully, this season, we manage to win the title and start a good transition, alongisde Diego, Eden and Kante. But we need quality, able to actually play in different situations. The only people knowing what to do when we have this possession when we are limited to it are Diego and Eden. Not even Kante. But problem is, with the lack of quality, you can't expect them to dribble, be a constant threat, doing it alone, watching offside traps, taking three or four people alone. It can't happen. 

It's stupid, but if you take a closer look, Hazard was in good positions, and constantly opening their opposition, finding space. And then, if you take a look at games like Palace, yesterday, Leicester... no proper movement, if we find movement, there is no intelect, zero thinking. Willian can't play a proper through ball, Moses had two chances to pop the ball just outside of the area, he goes for a low cross to someone and it's cleared by Matip/Lovren. He didn't lay it off to Hazard, goes for a weaker foot shot. WHY? Palace, no through balls in three positions, Hazard gets the blame for not putting a shift, WHY?
 

As I've said, he isn't in fantastic form, YES, but how can he be the Messi-esque player you want? These high expectations and resistance to the actual overrating of our players is why you are constantly disappointed.Look at the deatils, watch it a bit more and you'll see. You are making him out look bang average, when in reality, it's not him being ban average... Pretty sure there are people who want him to be benched for Willian...

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/eden-hazard-and-david-luiz-playing-through-pain-as-minor-injuries-threaten-chelseas-premier-league-a3456361.html

Oh dear.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

7 minutes ago, Jason said:

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/eden-hazard-and-david-luiz-playing-through-pain-as-minor-injuries-threaten-chelseas-premier-league-a3456361.html

Oh dear.

I had a feeling. His avoiding of challenges and less dribbling was a direct result of carrying an injury last season and if this report is true, it's happening again since January. 

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

2 hours ago, Polo7 said:

Smiled when Diego  Missed the penalty. What a cuntish thing to do!

It's bullshit. 

Watch this highlight vid. http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2017/01/31/liverpool-vs-chelsea-highlights/2/

at 8:28 you'll see Conte's actual reaction to the missed penalty and Hazard isn't even on the bench as he's getting treatment inside. 

 

[LegenTerry 265]

7 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

It's bullshit. 

Watch this highlight vid. http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2017/01/31/liverpool-vs-chelsea-highlights/2/

at 8:28 you'll see Conte's actual reaction to the missed penalty and Hazard isn't even on the bench as he's getting treatment inside. 

 

 

 

I wonder how you even have a WILL to explain him those things. I wouldn't even try. It's useless

I don't know how ( I will not say stupid because of the rules) mindless you have to be to actually belive andd convince yourself that our player smiled because one of our player,and one of his best teammates,smiled after he missed penalty...People relly tend to belive every crap theay read these days.

[communicate 2,703]

5 hours ago, kellzfresh said:

He is sometimes, but its only in the season he won player of the year where he was so consistent throughout the whole season and showed the desire to carry the team on his back to the title. Maybe that burnt him out because Since then, he's been world-class in one month, okay in the next month.

And I think the main reason is before, when the premier League opponents kick him, he still dribbled(at least 6 dribbles per match) and made things happen no matter what. But since his injury last season, he doesn't ride challenges anymore and can easily be stopped in his tracks with a foul. I don't blame him for trying to protect himself but he can never be as creative as KDB or fabregas except through his dribbling which he isn’t motivated to do as consistently as his prime. 

He isn’t helped by the terrible passing percentage the whole team had against liverpool but since he's not as strong on the ball consistently like before, even when he gets it I'm not sure if he can dribble past two players marking him like he used to do in every match in past seasons. 

I mentioned this somewhere, there is no chance that Hazard will be a consistent player for us as long as we play in current setup and squad. In the season when we won the league, fabregas, hazard and Costa often play in the same side of the field, combining and creating dangers. He can't be the only creator if you want him to do be great.

Right now he  is the ONLY creator in the team, supported by decent run by alonso but 0 from midfield if next season we found a fabregas that can defend and replace matic with him, I am pretty sure you will see a better Hazard

[the wes 7,212]

Hazard in the Premier League this season

 

Games: 22

Wins: 17

Goals: 9

Goals with left foot: 2

Goals with right foot: 7

Assists: 3

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

4 hours ago, communicate said:

I mentioned this somewhere, there is no chance that Hazard will be a consistent player for us as long as we play in current setup and squad. In the season when we won the league, fabregas, hazard and Costa often play in the same side of the field, combining and creating dangers. He can't be the only creator if you want him to do be great.

Right now he  is the ONLY creator in the team, supported by decent run by alonso but 0 from midfield if next season we found a fabregas that can defend and replace matic with him, I am pretty sure you will see a better Hazard

I agree we need another playmaker on this team. But I also think Eden will only fullfill his potential if he gets (wing)fullback in the mold of Alaba, Alba, Marcelo etc to play along. 

Alonso is good, very good actualy, but still far cry from Marcelo in attacking sense. 

To get best of Eden, we need 5:3:2 system, replace Matic with someone like Nainggolan, bring another playmaker and get two new wingbacks in mold of Marcelo/Alaba. And give Eden free role to roam around Diego in penalty box.

But in that case we would lose wingers (my main reason I dislike 5:3:2 system), so wingbacks would need to be absolutely brilliant in attack and defense. If wingbacks aint good in defense, we lose balance and stability, if they aint good forward, we lose width, speed, skill and goals that Pedro and Eden currently give.And good luck finding such wingbacks.

Or we can improve team as whole and bring someone like Nainggolan instead of Matic, better LWB and someone with similar quality/potential like Eden for RW.

In both cases Conte has a very difficult job to do in summer.

[mccg 1,528]

Time 4 a bench sandwich if he is carrying a small knock?,need 100% from the start from every player against arse

[communicate 2,703]

14 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

I agree we need another playmaker on this team. But I also think Eden will only fullfill his potential if he gets (wing)fullback in the mold of Alaba, Alba, Marcelo etc to play along. 

Alonso is good, very good actualy, but still far cry from Marcelo in attacking sense. 

To get best of Eden, we need 5:3:2 system, replace Matic with someone like Nainggolan, bring another playmaker and get two new wingbacks in mold of Marcelo/Alaba. And give Eden free role to roam around Diego in penalty box.

But in that case we would lose wingers (my main reason I dislike 5:3:2 system), so wingbacks would need to be absolutely brilliant in attack and defense. If wingbacks aint good in defense, we lose balance and stability, if they aint good forward, we lose width, speed, skill and goals that Pedro and Eden currently give.And good luck finding such wingbacks.

Or we can improve team as whole and bring someone like Nainggolan instead of Matic, better LWB and someone with similar quality/potential like Eden for RW.

In both cases Conte has a very difficult job to do in summer.

I have never watched Nainggolan play so I cannot really comment. I personally think one really good cm is the only thing that we need for next season if we still want to play 343.

I don't mind an upgrade for Alonso/moses but we have Ake and Christensen will be back for cb. 

 

[Fernando 6,455]

That was amazing! 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Been dribbling like to madman all game and has scored a goal a player of his rare talent deserves. 

[coolhead23 1,146]

THAT WAS FUCKING M-A-G-I-C!!!! Good one, Eden. 

[the wes 7,212]

I hope hazard goal will shut up a few headers on this forum who criticise hazard the last few games take a bow son!!! 

[Blue Armour 4,278]

Can't put in enough words to describe how satisfying that was to watch.

We've seen it before when he's waltzed past several defenders only for the keeper at the end to pull of a fantastic save, or for the shot to go inches wide.

But to get this in a big match, just makes it all the more special. Definitely one for the highlight reels.

[the wes 7,212]

On 03/02/2017 at 9:47 AM, mccg said:

Time 4 a bench 

We wouldn't have seen that amazing goal if hazard was on the bench today 

[Styles 9,790]

Hazard finally gets a ball from Costa and he works his magic.

Just think of how many goals and great moments we've been denied because of Costa's shit touch and hold up play. Mad ting.

[zakhov 253]

8 minutes ago, Styles said:

Hazard finally gets a ball from Costa and he works his magic.

Just think of how many goals and great moments we've been denied because of Costa's shit touch and hold up play. Mad ting.

 Just think of how many points we would have without Costa's goals as well...

I'm frustrated with Diego at times as well but you need to learn to take the bad with the good...