BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said: Aren't you skipping over the fact that Costa had a period where his off the ball movement in the box was non existent ? Kinda difficult to create chances for your striker when he's forgotten what a near post run is. It got so bad that Mourinho got into an argument at a game at half time, think it was against Tel Aviv and then benched him the next couple of games. Seems to me like you're using double standards when it comes to Costa and Hazard's poor form this season. Both have to take some responsibility for their poor form but both have also suffered from the poor team performances. ( and let's face it Mourinho also clearly had a negative affect on the both of them and the rest of the team this season.) You can't let one player off the hook by blaming it all on the team but then hold the other player 100 % responsible and question his commitment. Costa reinvigorated himself under Hiddink. Hazard hasn't really had the chance to reinvigorate himself, under Hiddink, since he still hasn't played much due to his injuries. So how about you give him some time to reinvigorate himself before you write off our most talented player we have at this club. "He looks absolutely useless at everything he attempts" Hazard's been poor this season but "absolutely useless at everything he attempts" ? What a ridiculous exaggeration. Willian in the best form of his Chelsea career has created 49 chances this season (and that's with taking the majority of our freekicks) while Hazard in the worst form of his Chelsea career has created 46 chances with 2 less games played then Willian but sure absolutely useless at everything he attempts... That's your opinion. I stick by mine. Hazard has been useless and only apologists will try and excuse the fact he's been a failure. If Hazard turns it around suddenly, then fair play to him. Doesn't excuse his performances, or lack of. I find it funny when you use statistics to make a point, but neglect the most important one. Goals. Willian, 8. Hazard, 0. Edit: You're entitled to have your opinion, and I can respect the opinions of other people. But there is no excusing the whole squad for this season. Big players have to stand out and be counted. Hazard has been arguably worse than Matic. That says something. Edited January 30, 2016 by BlueLion Essien19, chfn and Blue_Fox_ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 hour ago, BlueLion said: That's your opinion. I stick by mine. Hazard has been useless and only apologists will try and excuse the fact he's been a failure. If Hazard turns it around suddenly, then fair play to him. Doesn't excuse his performances, or lack of. I find it funny when you use statistics to make a point, but neglect the most important one. Goals. Willian, 8. Hazard, 0. Edit: You're entitled to have your opinion, and I can respect the opinions of other people. But there is no excusing the whole squad for this season. Big players have to stand out and be counted. Hazard has been arguably worse than Matic. That says something. Everyone is indeed entitled to have an opinion on the matter but i never said you couldn't have one now did i ? I just simply gave mine. Well it's not that funny cause the point i made was about your claim that Hazard was "absolutely useless at everything he attempts". I brought up the stat because, atleast for me, it proves that your claim is extremely exaggerated. How can a player that's second in most chances created (for our team) and only created 3 chances less then Willian (player in his best form and first in most chances created) be "absolutely useless at everything he attempts" ? That was my point. I'm not saying Hazard's been better or just as good as Willian this season or that he hasn't been poor. You say there's no excusing the whole squad but if you blame the whole squad then why are you only singling out Hazard ? Why is he the only player you're accusing of lack of commitment ? I'm sorry but it's clear to me that you're using double standards when it comes to assigning blame to players. Costa gets a free pass from you because he's isolated and because the midfield is poor but Hazard you accuse of lack of commitment and when i use the same "excuses" you use, to take away the blame from Costa, you say me and anyone else that does is just an apologist. Kinda hypocritical wouldn't you say ? Although i'm guessing that's probably why you completely ingored the part i wrote about Costa. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted January 30, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted January 30, 2016 @Belgiannut, just look at the turnaround by everyone on Costa, half the forum was ready to sell him, now he's a god again after 3-4 good games. Football fans are a ridiculous bunch, same will happen when Hazard scores a few, wouldn't waste too much breath on it Barbara, Hybrid Angel, The Skipper and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, Weckerz said: @Belgiannut, just look at the turnaround by everyone on Costa, half the forum was ready to sell him, now he's a god again after 3-4 good games. Football fans are a ridiculous bunch, same will happen when Hazard scores a few, wouldn't waste too much breath on it Yeah i know. It's just the "lack of commitment", " heart isn't at Chelsea" crap that annoys me. You're right though should just try ignoring them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hazard is also coming back to a fully on form Costa, Willian who has played well all season and a more together Fabregas. Things are looking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I expect Watford to be his first start in a while. Not sure what type of performance we'll get from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 16 hours ago, LAM09 said: I expect Watford to be his first start in a while. Not sure what type of performance we'll get from him Me neither, but if it's a bad one, don't complain about it in here. He's obviously being given a free ride by a lot of the people on here and they won't stand for criticism Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 22 hours ago, Weckerz said: @Belgiannut, just look at the turnaround by everyone on Costa, half the forum was ready to sell him, now he's a god again after 3-4 good games. Football fans are a ridiculous bunch, same will happen when Hazard scores a few, wouldn't waste too much breath on it Yes fickle fans, all teams got them. What's amazing is that Mourinho used to be applauded for this, his man management skills. But after two stints where the same thing happened, real Madrid and now Chelsea then the man has clearly lost it. It is good that the club sacked him and got hiddink in. We just need to play Fútbol and have less drama in our lives. And because of this hopefully hazard will be able to enjoy his Fútbol once more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted January 31, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2016 I think there are two completely different matters and it's possible to address both at the same time because one doesn't exclude the other. 1. He's by far our most talented player, the only one in our team that would attract the top three teams in the world. Along with Costa, Cortouis and Fabregas, he's the only player I'd consider world class, but all of them (maybe except Courtois) have had problems to keep their level up. 2. He's had a nightmare of a season, a huge blip that doesn't seem to ever end. God knows when he'll resurrect from this terrible form he's been for a while. Fans are entitled to state both and to think whatever they want based on this. But I think it's stupidity to even consider selling him, no matter the money because we don't have the appeal other clubs have where they let go of world class to bring another world class. I also think it's unfair to disregard everything he did in the three past years like many do. I know momentum is important, but give the guy some time. We have a gem, one of the few we somehow were able to catch. Unfortunately we don't get them very often. This is not giving him a free pass, it's giving him a new chance and he deserves a whole bunch of them for everything he did here and for the ridiculous amount of talent he has. Stats, FabHazard, bethos1 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseabluerising 60 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Yesss Hazard kissing the badge aswell Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Kissed the badge, will obviously stay until he dies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledg 643 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 :3 :3 :3 Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,956 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 For me the most important part was when he had the confidence to take the ball and step up to take the penalty. You could hear the Chelsea fans celebrating just that fact. He made the penalty, he scored it his own way, set up other goals and chances, was honestly happy after Oscar scored his hattrick and... and... he kissed the Chelsea badge Fantastic afternoon. Stats and Hybrid Angel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,956 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Made my day completely. Styles, Stats and Hybrid Angel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 11 minutes ago, milan.cech said: Made my day completely. this too: It's amazing to see the boys with smiles stamped on their faces. Both played really well, I just think they're recovering that joy to play that imo is so important for their game. Hybrid Angel and Styles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Takes a lot of confidence to be on such a barren goal spell then have the confidence to be firm and state you want to take the penalty. Because if he misses all of a sudden, he will take more battering from the media and fans but he took the penalty in his usual cool style and converted cooly. So glad for him. Goal and assist for him. Hopefully onwards and upwards from this commilin, Kieran., Styles and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 yuvala, Styles and sLOVEnian Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Amblève. 4,995 Posted January 31, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2016 That one-on-one miss was classic Hazard. He's back Kieran., The Skipper, Blue-in-me-Veins and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Well done lad, now it's time to really kick on. Blue_Fox_ and Styles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Thank fucking god. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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