pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Eden has now scored more goals for Chelsea (46 in 154 games) than Fernando Torres (45 in 172 games), Florent Malouda (45 in 229 games) or Pat Nevin (45 in 242 games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open 45 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I hope he breaks all kind of records with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 His status as a Chelsea legend will be cemented if/when we win the title this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I watched the game with my lad yesterday and he said "Dad, Hazard is a bit special isn't he"Nail on the head. petre.ispirescu, Atholy, LondonsFinest and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 So with Bale getting hounded out of Real Madrid by his own fans, how about this scenario: Hazard moves in the middle where I'm sure he'd prefer himself so he can become even more influential in both goals and assists, Bale is bought for the LW, and we have Willian and Cuadrado rotating on the right. Oscar sold or kept as a squad player.We'll certainly have the money and Real Madrid will probably be looking for a reason to sell him. He's a Mourinho style player and is that genuine superstar splash that we can afford to make. Loads of pace out wide, scores and creates goals, fantastic on the counter, opens up space for everyone around him, and imagine the outlet he provides for players like Cesc and Hazard.Thoughts? Mustafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 So with Bale getting hounded out of Real Madrid by his own fans, how about this scenario: Hazard moves in the middle where I'm sure he'd prefer himself so he can become even more influential in both goals and assists, Bale is bought for the LW, and we have Willian and Cuadrado rotating on the right. Oscar sold or kept as a squad player.We'll certainly have the money and Real Madrid will probably be looking for a reason to sell him. He's a Mourinho style player and is that genuine superstar splash that we can afford to make. Loads of pace out wide, scores and creates goals, fantastic on the counter, opens up space for everyone around him, and imagine the outlet he provides for players like Cesc and Hazard.Thoughts?I don't know if Bale is the kind of footballer who makes us a better team. He's not exactly technically gifted and doesn't really work hard all over the pitch... If you ask me the best position for Hazard is on the wing because it gives him more freedom and its less congested.Pogba is the guy for me. John1611 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I don't know if Bale is the kind of footballer who makes us a better team. He's not exactly technically gifted and doesn't really work hard all over the pitch... If you ask me the best position for Hazard is on the wing because it gives him more freedom and its less congested.Pogba is the guy for me.If we're going to continue playing this same formation than Bale would be brillaint. If we switch to a 4-3-3 (like I'd love for us to do) than you're right, Pogba would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 If we're going to continue playing this same formation than Bale would be brillaint.If we switch to a 4-3-3 (like I'd love for us to do) than you're right, Pogba would be great.Bale doesn't use the football well for me, in a lot of ways he'd be like schurrle... A very expensive Schurrle! John1611 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I also wonder of Bale is the right type of footballer. Hazard needs someone on the right wing who can bring some different qualities but also have a similar imagination with 1-2 plays and flicks. While Bale would bring a different dimension his game seems more suited in a more direct style whereas the ideal RW can create off the dribble in tight spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 No Bale; injury prone and just not worth the money. I would rather buy schneiderlin to help Matic and someone else for midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatsTheMatic? 28 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 If we're going to continue playing this same formation than Bale would be brillaint.If we switch to a 4-3-3 (like I'd love for us to do) than you're right, Pogba would be great.I think Pogba and Oscar play similar roles already in the system that we currently use. Oscar spends a lot of his time deeper already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Belgium have two must win (or at least, must pick up points) Euro qualifier games, so it seems Hazard won't be rested by Wilmots, which is bad news . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I watched the game with my lad yesterday and he said "Dad, Hazard is a bit special isn't he"Nail on the head.I read that as you saying that to your dad. Haha. Old cunt. Special Juan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 He's improved his consistency, which was a big issue in the past (usually dissapears midway through the season after a great start to finish the season well). It seems he's ironed that issue out of his game and he's also more aggressive and direct. Despite the relative freedom he has, I still feel jose's tactical set up and mentality in certain games does hold him back alot . It's hard for an attacking player to be fully effective when the team spends majority of the game defending deep and without willing runners and overlapping fullbacks (luis enhances hazard's game but he rarely plays).Still he's been our most consistent performer this season alongside thibo and kudos to him.Thats why some of us get so frustrated with players that show no signs of improvement and progress and have been at the club for a while. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvytee 2 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Belgium have two must win (or at least, must pick up points) Euro qualifier games, so it seems Hazard won't be rested by Wilmots, which is bad news . Hazard will always play for Belgium in games that are important, so no, no rest for him. Hopefully he will recover enough from those two games though. If not, a club like Chelsea should be able to cope with that I think/hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 He's improved his consistency, which was a big issue in the past (usually dissapears midway through the season after a great start to finish the season well). It seems he's ironed that issue out of his game and he's also more aggressive and direct. Despite the relative freedom he has, I still feel jose's tactical set up and mentality in certain games does hold him back alot . It's hard for an attacking player to be fully effective when the team spends majority of the game defending deep and without willing runners and overlapping fullbacks (luis enhances hazard's game but he rarely plays).Still he's been our most consistent performer this season alongside thibo and kudos to him.Thats why some of us get so frustrated with players that show no signs of improvement and progress and have been at the club for a while.Fair point's there.Also out of interest has Tibo completely won you over because I know you had doubts at the start? (not a dig im just genuinely curious). lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Thoughts Yes, if we can get Bale, I wouldn't hesitate. Even if I'm not his biggest fan..A central defenderAn undisputed top central midfielder to complete the Cesc - Matic - triangle. Personally I'm not that impressed with Pogba. De Bruyne on current form would've been perfect.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Belgium have two must win (or at least, must pick up points) Euro qualifier games, so it seems Hazard won't be rested by Wilmots, which is bad news . Nope, Hazard will be crucial for Belgium.Wouldn't worry too much though, he thrives on playing matches, the more the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Fair point's there.Also out of interest has Tibo completely won you over because I know you had doubts at the start? (not a dig im just genuinely curious).Definitely. My reservation was centred around the fact that he wasn't getting tested near enough due to Atletico madrid's outstanding defence and I wasn't sure how he would cope in a team where the GK's are far more busy and called to be the hero on a constant basis like Thibo himself has already found out this season.That's the thing about me, I'm willing to admit I was wrong when a player proves me wrong and give credit where it's due. Tomo and Coop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Despite the relative freedom he has, I still feel jose's tactical set up and mentality in certain games does hold him back alot . It's hard for an attacking player to be fully effective when the team spends majority of the game defending deep and without willing runners and overlapping fullbacks (luis enhances hazard's game but he rarely plays). I don't know if that's really Mourinho's fault. The tactical set-up is pretty similar to that of other European top teams. 4 in the back, a triangle in midfield and 3 up front. And as far as mindset is concerned, I can't really imagine he wouldn't want to dominate play.For me the technical quality of the defenders is key. If you look at Bayern Munich & Barcelona, their defenders have a crucial role in the build-up play. If I look at us sometimes, we got the four at the back doing nothing but defending and all the build-up & attacking play is left to Cesc, Hazard & Willian. Ivanovic likes to go forward of course, but the quality is sometimes lacking. Luis seems capable of going forward so I think we should definitely play him more. But in the end the whole team should be capable of build-up play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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