termninja 5,290 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Eden has been here for a full season now, but I still fail to actualyl realize just how good his dribbling and running with the balls is Such a stunning player to watch and an absolute gem to have :dude:Jose will do him well and I think we can realistically expect him to really show us what he can do now since his 1st adaptational season is over :eyebrows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stingray 9,441 Posted August 6, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hey Guys ... on the Bale goes to Madrid thread the comparison with Eden came up. So I made a post I would like to share here as well. I hope you don't mind. It is indeed easy to be biased. But I feel a lot of the bias favours Bale. Most on here are English or watch a LOT of EPL - no offense guys. Jus ....Eden Hazard had a past you know. And a better one than Bale by all means. I know The french league is considered weaker .... but the numbers on Hazard will speak for themselves. Now, to avoid a bias, let's see some data! We will have to keep in mind Eden is two years younger and would actually have two more years time to surpass the Bale stats (which he actually does now already. Because I a a lazy mofo i will just Wiki this shit :-) I have done it before in the Hazard thread with official stats ... pfft not again. Lets see Bale. They both have a two year age difference so I will start their 'career' stats with a two year lag to compensate. Gareth Bale: From 2005 to now a total of 60 goals. Last year 8 assists (Whoscored.com). Everyone knows his Curriculum of performances. Now Eden A total of 63 goals and 68 assists in TWO YEARS LESS. Granted a lot in the french league, but the difference is not that, that this number is meaningless. That claim would be hybris galore. Add to this Eden's Curriculum: Best player on European Championship -17 (with Bojan)Debut for the NT at 17 1 time French Champion in 2011Coupe de France in 2011Best young player of the french league 2x 2009, 2010Best player of the French league 2x 2011, 2012Ligue 1: in squad of the season 3x 2010, 2011, 2012Ligue 1 player of the month 4x march 2010, march 2011, march 2012, april 2012Étoile d'or France Football 1x 2011Trofeo Bravo 1x 2011PFA Team of the Year 1x 2013Europa League 1x 2013Player of the month here at chelsea ... Forgot whenAlmost 30 NT caps (Bale 41 but + 2 years)This all gives me the impression people rate Bale higher because he simply was more salient - more visible for the EPL audience. Somehow I find nothing in the numbers, titles, awards from pundits of players that justifies placing Bale on a much higher platform. Nothing seems to justify the humonguous, astronomical numbers paid for him - especially if you consider Ronaldo's performances when he got transferred. Bale has a highly aggressive style that payed off this year. even more than Eden he will have to 'confirm' this year at Real. am just glad we have Eden and the numbers tell me I am right - as well as my heart. Belgiannutt, Hkibou, Coop and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 114 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Eden played like Maradonna with Lille, he was the main man, everything went true him.If Eden would play with Tottenham he would be more importend, with Chelsea you have Mata, Oscar and other good players.This year Hazard will make a next step and take away all doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 People can analyze however much as they want, but the simple fact is this - THEM GOALS!!Bale scored them goals, he scored them screamers, he scored them game winners, he scored when no one else on his team could. Bales moves to Real and he just becomes part of the team and his hype will die down guaranteed, if he stays at Spurs he is the team and his hype will never die down and will only soar even if his teams gets better and helps him more because regardless of the help he gets, Spurs will always be considered HIS team as long as he's there. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hazard was overplayed last year which is also why he was injured to the end of it and not used perfectly by RDM and Benitez, both managers not exactly known for their ability to develop players. Still he was extremely influential. Now we have Jose. He made Lampard the best player in the world 8 years ago, now he will do it with Hazard.But first he has to lose that little bit of fat and regain the last bit of pace he needs to actually break past defenders and not only run along them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkibou 622 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Indeed !! The generation after Lukaku is just woooooaaa :-)Hazard and KDB is just the beginning it seems. Let's hope Bakkali and Januzaj choose belgium ...Man, do you keep an eye on Divock Origi ? Future beast that player from what i've seen as a LOSC fan (don't know how he does in belgium youth teams ?)Great article about this great prospect from the best french football journalist of the moment (specialist of African player, Origi is half Kenyan) here , in which he shows great mentality. One quote that says all about the lad :"Mon père m’a toujours dit de ne pas prendre en compte l’argent mais le projet sportif et, à Lille, je ne peux que progresser. Hazard en est d’ailleurs un parfait exemple. » Translation : My father always told not to make money a priority, but make the choices a real lover of sport would, and in Lille i can only but progress. Hazard is the perfect example. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkibou 622 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 He won the young player of the year twice in a row aswell. In the 4 seasons he played for Lille as a regular starter he won an individual prize every season.Also Lille hadn't won the Ligue 1 in over 50 years.And the Coupe de France too.But anyway let it go your friend is obviously trolling you, the talent of Eden is indisputable of the field, even my girlfriend at the time who knew practically nothing about football said at her first match of Eden i made her he was clearly above every players she had w, and said she was happy to wa Even more, she was horny after watching him, his talent, his looks on the field are aphrodisiac ! I spent great nights thanks to Eden And if he's not trolling you, well truth is on your side so just let the time do his job. It'll get him plenty of time to say more ridiculous things he'll be ashamed having said after being caught up by reality, aware of his past delusion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 he's really funny .... Belgiannutt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 he's really funny ....Where's this from ? Blues news ?EDIT: nevermind just found it myself. Gigi's twitter. Apparently he "joined" Essien in his interview with Chelsea tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Where's this from ? Blues news ?Gigi salmon's twitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Come on.... Hazard wasn't better than bale last year, no matter how blue your glasses are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Come on.... Hazard wasn't better than bale last year, no matter how blue your glasses are.Last year:Hazard: 9 goals 16 assists = contributed to 25 goals.Bale : 21 goals 8 assists = contributed to 29 goals.Now going soley by the stats Bale did have a more productive season than Hazard.(not that much though ,4 goals)However when you take into account that-this was Hazard's first season while it was Bale's 6th season in the PL.-Hazard was overused due to inadequate squaddepth-Hazard had to share the ball with Mata and Oscar while dealing with Torres up front-Hazard is 2 years younger than BaleYou start realizing that Hazard actually already is a better player then Bale.Also i've reread Stingray's post. Nowhere does it say that he thinks Hazard was better than Bale last year.He only said that he was glad that we got Hazard and that he thought Bale was getting to much credit and (wrongfully) being put on a higher platform.And he's right. I mean some people rate Bale as the third best player in the world but there's only a 4 goal contribution difference between him and Hazard.If Bale stays in the PL Hazard will overtake him, this year, in goals contributed, i'd put money on it. Hazard is the better player. Azpinator and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm sure if Hazard was playing for Spurs, United or any of the English media's favorite team, they will likely to be raving about him being the 3rd best player in the world right now. Bale was good last season but not that great like the media and proposterious transfer fee quoted for him is suggesting! Beigl, Stingray and Azpinator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Man, do you keep an eye on Divock Origi ? Future beast that player from what i've seen as a LOSC fan (don't know how he does in belgium youth teams ?)Great article about this great prospect from the best french football journalist of the moment (specialist of African player, Origi is half Kenyan) here , in which he shows great mentality. One quote that says all about the lad :"Mon père ma toujours dit de ne pas prendre en compte largent mais le projet sportif et, à Lille, je ne peux que progresser. Hazard en est dailleurs un parfait exemple. » Translation : My father always told not to make money a priority, but make the choices a real lover of sport would, and in Lille i can only but progress. Hazard is the perfect example.Ow thats Mike Origi's kid! He came from the Genk Academy, right? No I don't follow him ... Is he that good?Ps: thanks for the article. I will keep an eye on the kid if he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Last year:Also i've reread Stingray's post. Nowhere does it say that he thinks Hazard was better than Bale last year.He only said that he was glad that we got Hazard and that he thought Bale was getting to much credit and (wrongfully) being put on a higher platform.Exactly ! Belgiannutt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkibou 622 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Ow thats Mike Origi's kid! He came from the Genk Academy, right? No I don't follow him ... Is he that good?Ps: thanks for the article. I will keep an eye on the kid if he plays.He's been in the starting team in 4 of the 5 LOSC friendly games in a 4-4-2 diamond, up front associated with Salomon Kalou (which is excellent as a striker). He scored 3 beautiful goals and created many more chances. He is expected to be on the starting eleven for the first Ligue 1 home match against Lorient this saturday, you should check it Stingray and Hamilton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Ow thats Mike Origi's kid! He came from the Genk Academy, right? No I don't follow him ... Is he that good?Ps: thanks for the article. I will keep an eye on the kid if he plays.His elder brother is the Kenyan NT goalkeeper. Victor Origi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 300 Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted August 7, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 7, 2013 Eden Hazard is a gem!!!!! By far my fave Belgian ever born!!!!!!x Bolt from the Blue, The Rising Sun, Dy-lan and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchekitchek 37 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Eden's performance against Realhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdGIX2wCo0He didn't seem as sluggish as he was against AC/Inter and he played much better than I expected according to what I heard around here Christacinto, Hamilton and Coop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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