Chelsea? 892 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. Panic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Chelsea? said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. Your definitely right. But I think it's mostly due to lack of a proper agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Chelsea? said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. Do you mean become a vain show-off like Pogba? Nah thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Chelsea? said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. He wouldn't need that if he was consistent. That's the only thing letting him down. Unionjack and Tautvix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Chelsea? said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel Chelsea need to make a bigger deal out of Hazard. As in drive the narrative that he's the best player in the best league. Maybe that's on his sponsor but I feel like he's under rated by the general public. Why do we need that? Would rather him do his talking with the performances on the pitch rather than, as manpe alluded to, do the silly things that Pogba is doing off the pitch right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Jason said: Why do we need that? Would rather him do his talking with the performances on the pitch rather than, as manpe alluded to, do the silly things that Pogba is doing off the pitch right now. I agree, I can see only one plus that would come with it - higher price tag because of a more marketable brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 On 4-1-2017 at 11:29 PM, Jason said: Forget goals. Is Hazard ever going to put in great, consistent performances?  On 7-1-2017 at 10:03 AM, Jason said: In my defence, I don't think it's overreaction. Just a case of dissatisfied with our better/best player not stepping up in the big games (that's not to say he hasn't done that previously) and Spurs away was a big one. It's also annoying to see Hazard not performing consistently, when we know he can and he's reached the age where he should be doing so. As mentioned, he can be absolutely brilliant in one game and then go completely quiet the next and to say he's been playing very well since September might be stretching it. We may have won 13 of our last 14 league games but there were games where he was brilliant and quiet during that run.  On 18-1-2017 at 8:37 AM, Polo7 said: He wouldn't need that if he was consistent. That's the only thing letting him down. I really disagree with the notion that Hazard isn't a consistent player. It's perfectly normal for a player to have "quiet" games in a season. They are human you know. There's not a single player in the world that measures up to the ridiculous definition of consistency some on here have. Even Messi and Ronaldo have quiet games the difference is that they're tremendous goalscorers playing for teams that are so dominant they don't even need them to perform well to dominate the opposition. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 In terms of goals, not many non-strikers are as consistent as him really. Not this season specifically but in the past 3 or so, the only other great 'wingers' (I'll also include players in the hole behind the striker in this) who've consistently contributed to goals to the same degree, have been Ribery, De Bruyne & Sanchez. No others in all the top 5 leagues, until we bring in Messi & whichever of Suarez/Neymar is playing on the side more. This past season, we can't say this for Ribery IMO, meaning Hazard slips in and forms part of the 5-best forwards-not-strikers around. Compare Hazard now to C. Ronaldo now and discover that we have the better player. Let's count our blessings, I think that's a good benchmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 He i almost never poor. But when he is on brilliant form, it sets the bar. Then he has an ok game, but since he is not brilliant, people complain. If Willian was performing to what Eden does on average, he would be considered outstanding here. Yet the expectations for Eden are unbelievably high and thats why after every ok game, we hear he had shit game. Looking at the course of this and past seasons, only Diego and Eden perform in attack on regular basis. Those who think either of two should be cashed in, should think again. We will have damn hard time to find replacements even if we can spend 200m on just two new players. Its like we had to replace Lamps and Drogba back then. No chance we would get better players than those two. Blue-in-me-Veins, kellzfresh and DYC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Leif said: In terms of goals, not many non-strikers are as consistent as him really. Not this season specifically but in the past 3 or so, the only other great 'wingers' (I'll also include players in the hole behind the striker in this) who've consistently contributed to goals to the same degree, have been Ribery, De Bruyne & Sanchez. No others in all the top 5 leagues, until we bring in Messi & whichever of Suarez/Neymar is playing on the side more. This past season, we can't say this for Ribery IMO, meaning Hazard slips in and forms part of the 5-best forwards-not-strikers around. Compare Hazard now to C. Ronaldo now and discover that we have the better player. Let's count our blessings, I think that's a good benchmark. I think you meant Robben, not Ribery. And I would throw Muller in the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 We all know Eden is a fantastic player when hes on. But you must agree that theres been 3 or 4 games this last couple of months when hes been missing. Now whether thats been because hes been marked out, or the oppositions kept our CMs from getting the ball to him or its down to the mood hes in. When he comes out on the pitch doing his boogie and hes up for the craic then hes on fire. But watch him. Theres games he comes out and theres nothing in his eyes. Like hes gone to the office. But theres aloit of times that we just dont feed our top 3 enough. We have a big lack of creativity behind them that just cant get the balls to them. And IMHO we need to change that bit. BoyBlue96 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivefootball 195 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Another disgraceful performance. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I don't think he has improved at all since joining us.... I'm still baffled how someone with so much talent can't consistently put up a good performance. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I like how he dropped deep to look for the game. In many cases I feel he would disappear in matches, but it seemed he made an effort for that not to happen in the first half today. Â In the second half he showed he couldnt handle dropping that deep though for too long. Too physical for him. If Conte insists on playing both Kante and Matic against smaller sides like hull, I think it would be a good idea to start Fabregas along with Pedro and Costa instead of Hazard. Would allow him to come off the bench to run at a tired defense, and would allow Fabregas to start with his passes to break down the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Thought he did well, considering that Hull had 9 players back most of the time leaving very little space for him. Nowhere near a disgraceful performance. Despiadado.Maleante, Atholy and Heisenberg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I think something is wrong in his approach to the games lately. Either is that Contes' plan doesn't work for him anymore, or I don't know. He is same Hazard from beginning of that 13 games win haul, same quality, but something is not ticking right. Maybe him being our only creative spark on whole field took it's tool and he cannot be that dangerous in front of goal like before. I miss those 3-4 shots per game stats from beginning of 13-games haul, when he was beast like that I think we played the best football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 On 20/01/2017 at 0:08 PM, Belgiannutt said:   I really disagree with the notion that Hazard isn't a consistent player. It's perfectly normal for a player to have "quiet" games in a season. They are human you know. There's not a single player in the world that measures up to the ridiculous definition of consistency some on here have. Even Messi and Ronaldo have quiet games the difference is that they're tremendous goalscorers playing for teams that are so dominant they don't even need them to perform well to dominate the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted January 22, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 22, 2017 On January 9, 2017 at 6:42 PM, BlueLyon said: Neymar didnt score in 11 games for Barca. They dont want to sell him. Yet here, the jury is already out to get rid of Eden. I just wonder if those are same people who wanted to sell him in summer. This is how football works. You dont play every single game on top. No player does it. Eden is top player, he aint world class. He has world class ball control, but otherways he is only very very good. He still has alot to prove in europe and sure he has talent for that. That said, he is still by far our best player along Costa and its just ridiculous people already started talking shit. Im just waiting for Costa to go 3 games goalless, then sure people will go from Costa is best in world to Costa is bang average. Funny world. I swear we are the only fanbase around so relaxed about the prospect of losing our best players, its bizarre. Fernando, BlueLyon, Chelseabluerising and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 No so why do we want to gang up on the guy. We should be greatful we have him even when he is not in form cause he is still better than pple who are in their peakSent from my SHV-E250K using Tapatalk the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 He was okay against hull. Good in the first half and out-muscled in the 2nd half. He hasn’t had a great performance for 4 straight matches now but we've coped well. But without hazard on peak performance we will stand no chance against liverpool and their high intensity style. If hazard has a great performance like against mancity or Everton, we will win. But Conte should start using 3-5-2 against big teams and let hazard be upfront pressing with costa. Because even smaller teams like Hull are targeting that space Hazard leaves between Matic and Alonso and maguire managed to get some good chances to score by attacking when Hazard doesn't cover back like Pedro.  Liverpool will attack that space again and if hazard isn't compensating his lower workrate (than Pedro/willian) by scoring in attack, we may not win against liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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