MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Pato's injuries have ruined his career so far, rather than his attitude.I don't take much notice of labels, but if someone unknown is given such a title by the press; they must have something about them to warrant it.Speaking of which. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-messi-19-players-took-5472311 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Speaking of which. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-messi-19-players-took-5472311More will fail, rather than get anywhere near fulfilling their potential or living up to the hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 In Brazil, Robinho was supposedly the next Pele. Neymar has and is following the same tag.That's the reason I used that example.I know what you're getting at – he was marketed as the next Pelé but my point is: he never dominated the league in the fashion Neymar did. Heck, Robinho probably wasn't even the best player in the league when he was sold, Neymar was. Robinho's most iconic play here was being fouled and getting a penalty to make Santos win the league – that's how much of a stretch it was, his most memorable feat was getting a penalty, and a really soft one at that, if not a dive all together.Robinho's legendary play: Anyone with half a brain knows it takes a lot more than that to make the next Pelé. Pelé scored a shit ton of goals, Robinho never even was a good goal scorer. It was probably the dumbest hype I've seen in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I know what you're getting at – he was marketed as the next Pelé but my point is: he never dominated the league in the fashion Neymar did. Heck, Robinho probably wasn't even the best player in the league when he was sold, Neymar was. Robinho's most iconic play here was being fouled and getting a penalty to make Santos win the league – that's how much of a stretch it was, his most memorable feat was getting a penalty, and a really soft one at that, if not a dive all together.Robinho's legendary play: Anyone with half a brain knows it takes a lot more than that to make the next Pelé. Pelé scored a shit ton of goals, Robinho never even was a good goal scorer. It was probably the dumbest hype I've seen in my life.I didn't follow Brazilian footie when he was starting out, but I'm quite sure the calibre of player were higher back then. Brasileiro is mainly full of has beens, and a few prospects.However, I'm in agreement. Neymar is on a different level to Robinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Well that escalated quickly rantdeville 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Fact 1 : Hazard and Neymar are both incredibly gifted players.Fact 2 : It seems that none of them has reached his ceiling yet.Fact 3 : Hazard and Neymar, while playing in the same area (left-wing), endorse a completely different role for their respective teams. In fact, they could very well play in the same team without treading on each other's toes. Fact 4 and the most important one : not only it is impossible to figure out which one is better than the other, it is completely nonsensical. I will say this though, I only know Neymar, the player. But I know Eden Hazard, the person. And I daresay, who you are as a person is as important for a competent coach, as who you are as a player. In the case of Hazard, he has everything as a human being to be the perfect team partner. He is humble, joyful, forgiving, hard-working, loyal and generous. He is mature, and a loving husband and father, and never drinks or party too much despite his young age and luxury wages.He doesn't think he is above anyone in the team despite being its obvious best player. He is not a diva, even if some media would have liked him to be. That's why on the pitch, he doesn't cheat. Doesn't get angry, doesn't try to take justice into his own hands and always respect the referee (as well as the opponent) however mistaken/unfair he may be in his decisions. Also, he would never place his personal interests above the team or the club's interests.That is what makes me think that Hazard has something more than other players of similar talent. This and the fact that Hazard never gets injured, despite being constantly fouled. I don't say that Neymar is not like Hazard in that way, maybe he is I don't know him as a human being. But as long as I won't have proofs that Neymar is as great a human being Hazard is, I would choose Hazard over Neymar in a heart beat, no matter how many goals Neymar scored his last season.This is beautiful. You're going to write my eulogy. Hkibou 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Kisses and hugs.Not quite sure what your purposes is around here or what you are trying achieve. From my stand point it looks very much like you are on the wind up and are trying to work the ticket of the TC members......Bit of news for you, it won't happen whilst I am about, if it continues you certainly won't. Debate things in a proper way and stop trying to ruffle feathers. Bosnian Blue and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 There's only one candidate for Player of the Year, and it's Eden Hazard Open 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Will Eden Hazard win the PFA Players' Player of the Year award this season?Yes - he's the best player on the best team in PLNo - I accidentally clicked no because there's no reason for saying no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkibou 622 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 This is beautiful. You're going to write my eulogy.Any time ! My fee is 100£ every 5000 characters Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 He should win it and most likely will win it with kane as ypoty.not that it matter much but his invidual trophies would be like:3x ypoty(2 in france and 1 england)3x poty ( 2 in france and 1 in england)also if he manage to get in the team of the year it would be the 6th time in his career,quite impressive for a 24 year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Any time ! My fee is 100£ every 5000 characters What's your opinion about Nabil Fakir? Do you think he is a hazard level talent or more in the bracket of somebody like Nasri? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 What's your opinion about Nabil Fakir? Do you think he is a hazard level talent or more in the bracket of somebody like Nasri?That kid...is something special. No real objective analysis from me, as I've only witnessed him in two games LOL. I really hope he retains his instinctive desire to beat players on his first few touches, from what I've seen, he has all the tools to do it. Very strong and balanced, extremely quick, exciting...if nothing else. I pray that he doesn't go down the route of Nasri (post-Arsenal). Maybe you can get a much better analysis from someone else here, I've seen his name mentioned a few times. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Have no faith in these players to make the correct choice. This is Mulumbu of WBA's picks: DH1988 and RoyalBlues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 8, 2015 Have no faith in these players to make the correct choice. This is Mulumbu of WBA's picks:The muppet actually confused Hazard with Kane, he confirmed it on his twitter. He meant it to be Hazard - POTY and Kane - YPOTY. Open, JDY, ILoveLamp and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 8, 2015 The muppet actually confused Hazard with Kane, he confirmed it on his twitter. He meant it to be Hazard - POTY and Kane - YPOTY. He spelled Azpilicueta name correctly, though. communicate, xPetrCechx, RoyalBlues and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Bolasie and Lloris are good, but not TOTY good lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I've heard that many players have confused the two boxes. Many people complained about it, so Eden is not sure about his win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 He spelled Azpilicueta name correctly, though.There was probably a list of player names for each team or position. Can't trust footballers to think for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkibou 622 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 What's your opinion about Nabil Fakir? Do you think he is a hazard level talent or more in the bracket of somebody like Nasri?Nabil Fekir is very promising, but very hard to read. The thing is nobody had seen him coming, not by youth national teams (algerian and french), not by the press, not even by Lyon's staff. Before Laurent Fournier arrived last summer, previous coach gave more opportunities to the likes of Benzia and Ghezal who are approximately the same age, and were considered more promising talents. It seems impossible that no-one had seen him coming given the talent he has displayed this season. Something just ticked in him and he found all the keys to unleash his game. And I'm not really for overhyping and all, but I think we've found our number 10 for quite a long time in France, he will be perfect with Lacazette, Griezmann, Pogba and Schneiderlin for the years to come ! If he finishes the season with more goals and assists, he may well win best player of the year award which would make him the second youngest to win it after Hazard (of course )What's really admirable is that he has been really consistent this season, a bit like Hazard who has spread his goals and assists thoughout a large number of games. Fekir was directly involved in a goal in 17 matches out of 29 appearances. He is usually consistent during the confrontation, not so many drops in concentration considered his age, sometimes "messiesque" during 90 min like against Montpellier a month ago. He still has off-days where he is completely anonymous of course but not so much when you think about it. His fitness is real good, his pace in the first 15 meters is admirable, with his low center of gravity makes him very similar to Hazard in that aspect. His technique is quite exquisite also, very quick feet, quite agile with his right foot for a lefty, does not fear to use at least and seems to be a very fast learner. His vision of the game is very promising but it is undeniable that he is helped by the fact that he and Lacazette understand each other like brothers, it's impressing to see (less than the trio Hazard-Sow-Gervinho of course but they're unbeatable ). Needs to be confirmed in a different environment, different players, tactics...I think he is very similar to Eden Hazard but lefty and more goal driven. A lot like Messi in in fact but less talented. The players he reminds me the most is Marcos Lopes of Manchester City, currently loaned at Lille. He's 3 years younger than Fekir but I expect him to reach his level very soon. Both may well be in the Hazard bracket or hit their ceiling before that, but the talent is there. As well as the class and attitude, these little things difficult to explain that makes you know this is something serious.Ultimately it doesn't matter how late the talent shines if it's there. Didn't prevent Ribéry to compete with the very best, and he was completely anonymous before his 22. But there's a lot to be done, let's see next year if he confirms. We can also have found our new Ben Arfa. ILoveLamp, MrExcalibur100, Mufassir08 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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