🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

It's sad Mourinho won't hesitate to throw his players under the bus to cover his ass. Sometimes he needs to take responsibility for some of his failures and stop giving the media the ammunition to bury him. I see he had already prepared a speech to defend his record, speaking in the first person, like he normally does.

He started it with the Newcastle defeat ("I made eleven mistakes") and recently with the Paris defeat ("we lack a striker"). It's your job to coach the team and get the best results. Some of the things Jose says and does just rubs me the wrong way sometimes. Control your ego and stop with publicly criticizing players after defeats.

[The only place to be 11,313]

No, Mourinho is the face of the club, he's also the most marketable personality ever associated with Chelsea Football Club.

Mourinho is probably the perfect personality for us. We're always going to be hated for a variety of reasons and he OWNS that. He doesn't care about being popular or being loved by anyone but us fans.

Looks like he's not just going to ignore Hazard's mistake for the first goal either. Whatever anyone thinks, conceding an away goal against a better team one minute before half-time completely changed the complexion of the match. Harsh to blame the loss on him, but if anyone wants to argue that it wasn't a turning point then they're clueless.

[The only place to be 11,313]

It's sad Mourinho won't hesitate to throw his players under the bus to cover his ass.

What the fuck are you on about? Do you know how many times Mourinho has shielded his players from criticism in his time at this club? I think he can occassionally be honest with a player as a teaching exercise when they make such a major mistake. 10 fucking players worked their bollocks off after we scored and one player stood still like a fucking statue so maybe he can take a bit of criticism and LEARN from it.

It amazes me how fairweather fans like you don't hesitate in jumping on the manager's back though.

[Stingray 9,441]

Mourinho is probably the perfect personality for us. We're always going to be hated for a variety of reasons and he OWNS that. He doesn't care about being popular or being loved by anyone but us fans.

Looks like he's not just going to ignore Hazard's mistake for the first goal either. Whatever anyone thinks, conceding an away goal against a better team one minute before half-time completely changed the complexion of the match. Harsh to blame the loss on him, but if anyone wants to argue that it wasn't a turning point then they're clueless.

I agree with most, but I truly believe that as much as it is a must to have a critical eye on players (eg. Hazards nonchalant negligence that cost us), it is also a must to apply the same amount of 'criticallity' to the manager. Somehow there seems to be much more an Omerta on that, much more than on the criticizing of players.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Well mourinho wasn't wrong, and hazard talking to the press left him wide open to the public criticism that followed.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

What the fuck are you on about? Do you know how many times Mourinho has shielded his players from criticism in his time at this club? I think he can occassionally be honest with a player as a teaching exercise when they make such a major mistake. 10 fucking players worked their bollocks off after we scored and one player stood still like a fucking statue so maybe he can take a bit of criticism and LEARN from it.

It amazes me how fairweather fans like you don't hesitate in jumping on the manager's back though.

Mourinho never takes the blame when the team loses, NEVER. He hasn't done it since he returned and he is trying to protect himself from criticism. Something about the man has changed because he wasn't like this before in his first spell here. His spell at Madrid affected him.

This is not about Hazard. This is about Mourinho always making excuses for defeats. His body language in the press conference was very telling. Fortunately for me though, I'm not one of those people that worship at the alter of Mourinho. He has his faults as a manager, but even more worryingly than that, he has a massive ego and that rubs off the wrong way on me and on the image on the club. Any criticism of his failings is either met by deflecting blame or even verbal attacks of other managers. He needs to change his attitude and stop treating this club like a personal play-thing.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Mourinho never takes the blame when the team loses, NEVER. He hasn't done it since he returned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24155092

Two seconds to prove you're a liar.

[Term-X 7,891]

It amazes me how fairweather fans like you don't hesitate in jumping on the manager's back though.

Funny what a few sensational headlines can do, people lose perspective. The 'bus memes' via social media have tainted his image, it's as if some fans don't have any core views of their own, and just go with the flow.

New forum rule: If you end your argument with.. 'I'm not a Mourinho worshiper', that's means you're in the right and completely objective!

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Mourinho conference, just criticized Hazard for ''not sacrificing himself 100% for the team''. Look like his comments were taken seriously by the boss, damn I hope this doesn't escalate.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

People cannot defend Hazard. I'm sorry. This is not about what he said to the media after the game. Talking about that, if it was any other manager, they wouldn't have thought twice before hitting back at Eden. Jose looked at the incident himself ( being a victim of it himself) and said outright that the words were coherently twisted. Lucky for Eden there.

But the fact that people are criticizing Jose for letting the media know that Hazard isn't 100% ready to sacrifice himself to the team is complete bollocks. He made mistakes in a huge game and he won't get Jose to cover up for him again.. Jose's had his own ass on fire for far too long trying to deflect attention and pressure from his own players. When players deserve praise, they will get it. Called Hazard one of the best European talents as well IIRC.

Why does Azpilicueta get so much praise? Cause he gives it his fucking all. If he didn't, he would be in the frying pan too. Hazard's been a huge player for us this season but he also needs to work on area's where he clearly lacks. If he won't give his all, he is going to get criticized it. Cojones.

[didierforever 7,349]

nothiing... absolutely NOTHING that jose has said is wrong. it was the same EXACT THING that most of us were saying yesterday. the importance of being a team player cant be lost even if u r eden hazard. simple as that.

[Stingray 9,441]

People cannot defend Hazard. I'm sorry.

I for one - again - am not defending.

But: criticising Hazard does not automatically imply you have to stick up for Mourinho. It is like saying 'evolution is wrong, so the bible is right'.

Hazard fucked up, so did Mourinho imo. What is the deal with that statement. Or do you think he put up a tactical masterclass?

[bushman 2,043]

If anyone thinks this won´t accelerate, then just wait for an hour or so. By 4 p.m. It will be all over the UK media.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24155092

Two seconds to prove you're a liar.

Ok, fair enough, that's one example out of 9 defeats this season. Against Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa, and PSG he either criticized his players or blamed the refs. He has gone from a charming individual to an insufferable person who can't take stuff on his chin. In this same article you point out, he is praising the strikers, then we go away to PSG and lose and all of a sudden, is "I lack a striker". A manager like Ancelotti will never say stuff like that and it's common sense really.

Now he throws Hazard under the bus again for making a mistake. The same player who is was just until weeks ago "happy with his defensive contribution". This is a young nucleus of players he's dealing with.

And it's an unpopular opinion, but I neither like his behaviour or the way his teams play football. That's why I had reservations of him coming back to be the guy that brings stability to this new Chelsea. Some people think he is the be all end all of Chelsea and treat him as a god. The only person that deserves that is Roman, no one else. I've been a supporter before he was here and I will be one after he's gone. I'm not going to "agree" with all his actions, because I can see when he's right or wrong.

Mourinho looked like he was about to handle the Hazard question properly "The quotes were taken out of context" but he was goaded by some journalist and proceeded to throw Hazard under the bus to deflect criticism from the poor brand of football. It's clever, but I saw through it.

[Special Juan 28,141]

If anyone thinks this won´t accelerate, then just wait for an hour or so. By 4 p.m. It will be all over the UK media.

No need to wait, it already is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2618436/Jose-Mourinho-claims-Chelsea-winger-Eden-Hazard-not-ready-100-cent-team.html

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I for one - again - am not defending.

But: criticising Hazard does not automatically imply you have to stick up for Mourinho. It is like saying 'evolution is wrong, so the bible is right'.

Hazard fucked up, so did Mourinho imo. What is the deal with that statement. Or do you think he put up a tactical masterclass?

I didn't have a go at you man. I was just putting up an opinion across to the other guy. I haven't seen your post.

I'm not sticking up for Mourinho. I was one of the guys who was completely against what happened versus Basel and a few other games. I'm not forever sticking up for him, even tho I admire him far too much to be called healthy. But in this particular situation, I defend him. Because he deserves to be defended. Put ourselves into his shoes. How many PC's has he said hypocritical things which makes him look like he suffers from severe autism just to protect his players? He doesn't deserve to be blasted for defending Hazard in the latest PC and pinpointing a flaw in him. I'm sorry, but he doesn't.

I don't think it was a total master-class or that Mourinho fucked up. 43 minutes, we were in cruise control. Then a sudden defensive lapse, and a stupid stupid penalty to give away. Not under Jose's controls. Jose made the one mistake of trying to change the game too early. Cole out, and Eto'o in IIRC. and after that we've never had the kind of balance or players in the squad to come back against a team that could dominate with a 1-3 scoreline. No team in Europe does.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

nothiing... absolutely NOTHING that jose has said is wrong. it was the same EXACT THING that most of us were saying yesterday. the importance of being a team player cant be lost even if u r eden hazard. simple as that.

Practically, you are spot on, but this is not the first time Jose is deflecting blame away from himself to hide his failures.

[bushman 2,043]

No need to wait, it already is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2618436/Jose-Mourinho-claims-Chelsea-winger-Eden-Hazard-not-ready-100-cent-team.html

Well, as expected. I, honestly, feel Jose needs to brush up on his English. This creates animosity only. How would you feel if I were to say, you do not do your job properly?

[Stingray 9,441]

a stupid stupid penalty to give away

Yet noone talks about this, really.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Well, as expected. I, honestly, feel Jose needs to brush up on his English. This creates animosity only. How would you feel if I were to say, you do not do your job properly?

I'd take it on board and make sure I was better, after all, the boss is the boss for a reason.