Stats 7,230 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hazard sits one game out and people already know he is off in summer....that is TC for youPeople should stop overreacting. Hazard needs us as much as we need him. If he continues the way he plays atm, no club in the world not even PSG will pay the 100m+ we will demand from him in summer with FOUR years on his contract. If Hazard forces a move after being benched for ONE game, no club will need him anyway. To become a top top player, you need to show some resilience and bounce back from that and I am sure he will as he is not as fickle as the guys who already have him out of the club. On a different note he surely is tired after a hectic international break + he looks out of shape physically, sporting a belly once again. But he will certainly get his act together and peform as last leason.No. Loads of teams would take Hazard regardless. He is not a player who has lost his talent overnight and many teams with a different attacking style to us know they would do wonders with him in their team. Even Sterling was not that good at Liverpool last season. Mostly inconsistent but City did not care because they know they are a better team who would get the best out of him. Hazard would thrive in other set ups. I am sure of it. Just look at the amount of talented wingers who have failed to make an impact here but thrived at other clubs. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I respect your opinion, but for me to attack well we need to defend well. A good offense starts with a good defense.Yesterday we made our first goal thanks to Willian when he made a good pressure and he recovered a dangerous ball near the opponent's box.That's what Jose is trying to do with Eden. And players like Messi, Ronaldo and Drogba they made it before, and that's what Eden has to do.I also respect your opinion but Hazard's defensive approach is already good enough. We play too defensive and that gives our opponent a chance to score. Ronald Koeman even said it, we need to put more pressure instead of parking the bus. To be fair we were very lucky yesterday, the two goals that we got didn't feel like real goals. One was a horrible mistake by Guzan and the other was a deflection.If Hazard drops back just like Jose wants him too then he will not have opportunities to score. Messi never defends like Hazard, Ronaldo does not defend like that aswell.It's the left backs job to defend and its the attacking midfielder's job to score. We are integrating Jose's somewhat coward mentality into the club. It's backwards and embarassing to be fair.Look at all the top clubs they all put insane pressure to their opponents. Why? Because putting pressure does not give sides like Villa, Palace etc the chance to attack. Plus it gives us a great stability in our attack aswell. It's a win-win situation. Laugh1ngMan and FabHazard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I also respect your opinion but Hazard's defensive approach is already good enough. We play too defensive and that gives our opponent a chance to score. Ronald Koeman even said it, we need to put more pressure instead of parking the bus.To be fair we were very lucky yesterday, the two goals that we got didn't feel like real goals. One was a horrible mistake by Guzan and the other was a deflection.If Hazard drops back just like Jose wants him too then he will not have opportunities to score. Messi never defends like Hazard, Ronaldo does not defend like that aswell.It's the left backs job to defend and its the attacking midfielder's job to score. We are integrating Jose's somewhat coward mentality into the club. It's backwards and embarassing to be fair.Look at all the top clubs they all put insane pressure to their opponents. Why? Because putting pressure does not give sides like Villa, Palace etc the chance to attack. Plus it gives us a great stability in our attack aswell. It's a win-win situation.I agree with a lot of your comments. But for me what Jose is doing with Hazard is to give him a warning to wake him.In fact, last week the own Eden Hazard said he was "in the worst period of his career." He needs someone (Jose) to tell him the truth and make him recover his best level.To me Eden Hazard will not be the same case as Mata or KDB. Eden is the cornerstone of our project and Jose is only trying to motivate him.I bet that Eden will be in our starting eleven next Tuesday against Dynamo Kiev. I hope so. Spike and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazardinho 88 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Let's play Hazard on the centre back position! Grrr Why asking our team to play defensive? We are Chelsea, the champions. We should never adapt our playing style to the oponent team. Let's play the man city style and let us enjoy the numerous goals Hazard would give us. zolayes and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Peace. 4,352 Posted October 18, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 18, 2015 I honestly don't think Hazard's work rate and defending is bad. Far from it actually. He's better than Neymar and Bale in this for example, comparable to Robben and Reus. They seem to do fine for their teams. But he's no workhorse, definitely.His work-rate is neither bad nor excellent. It is just fine. And more importantly, it is perfectly good enough for the role Hazard has, i.e. our best (by far) attacking threat. Anyway, you just do not want your best attacking player to run too much after the ball... And if you deem your team not defensively good enough because your best attacking player does not run like one of those work-horses such as Willian/Ramires, then it means that you are looking in the wrong direction — and you should actually take a look at the defense and the defensive systeme, maybe ? I mean, come on... If Barcelona was regarded as one of the best defense under Guardiola, that is not because Messi was chasing the ball like a mad dog.I really do not know what Mourinho is trying to achieve here with those kind of comments. They are not to motivate Hazard as you do not motivate an attacking player to rediscover his attacking impetuous by saying he is a defensive liability... Is this a way find excuses for having benched him ? That would be a bad PR talk... Is it what he really thinks ? It would be just confessing that he himself is not that good as a coach since the defensive solidity of his team depends on the work-rate of an attacking player... I do not understand where he is coming from as this kind of comments is so wrong on many levels...P.S. maybe he is trying to say to him that he should call him more often like Ivanovic does ? King11Didier, zolayes, FabHazard and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hazard sits one game out and people already know he is off in summer....that is TC for youPeople should stop overreacting. Hazard needs us as much as we need him. If he continues the way he plays atm, no club in the world not even PSG will pay the 100m+ we will demand from him in summer with FOUR years on his contract. If Hazard forces a move after being benched for ONE game, no club will need him anyway. To become a top top player, you need to show some resilience and bounce back from that and I am sure he will as he is not as fickle as the guys who already have him out of the club. On a different note he surely is tired after a hectic international break + he looks out of shape physically, sporting a belly once again. But he will certainly get his act together and peform as last leason.Well to be honest, its two games close to each other (Porto - a CL game) plus a public derogation. The latter being a huge faux-pas. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Mourinho watching Konoplyanka atm, got a feeling unless the situation improves by Xmas one of these 2 people will be out of the door next summer, probably Mourinho. Then again I wouldn't mind us selling Hazard for £100m and sign someone like Isco, Reus for the combined fee or even someone like Bale in exchange is good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I genuinely think you guys are reading far more into this than you should be.. Hazard will return to the first XI in no time, Mourinho is sending a message and the kid can either step up or he doesn't. That's up to him. But I really don't think he's going to spend a lot of time on the bench & I really doubt he's going to have any problem with Mourinho. stroey and MetsajCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 For every player that speaks wells about Mourinho, you can easily find those that don't...Yes, we all know that but he doesn't always have to do that. It's become tiresome at this point and considering the number of criticism he's handed out this season alone, one can tell that approach isn't working. He should or needs to mix things up. not really. Can't remember many of them. He had his problems with RM - which he was right btw. Kevin criticized him a lot, and I think Mata and Schurrle let out some comments too, but is it a coincidence it's always by scorned players?If there's one thing he used to have before RM was players praising him, and like Ibra saying they'd die for him. RM ruined Mourinho in more ways than one, and ever since he scorned some players and mostly all of them had a few words to say, but then again, he chose others oven them, so I don't think they'd feel that great to speak positively?I just want the end of the season to be here and for him to be gone. Hazard is the long term asset here, not Mourinho. LDN Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 not really. Can't remember many of them. He had his problems with RM - which he was right btw. Kevin criticized him a lot, and I think Mata and Schurrle let out some comments too, but is it a coincidence it's always by scorned players?If there's one thing he used to have before RM was players praising him, and like Ibra saying they'd die for him. RM ruined Mourinho in more ways than one, and ever since he scorned some players and mostly all of them had a few words to say, but then again, he chose others oven him, so I don't think they'd feel that great to speak positively?I just want the end of the season to be here and for him to be gone. Hazard is the long term asset here, not Mourinho.Lmao do you remember when he sold Mata and people actually suggested Mourinho has a problem with Spaniards? Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Lmao do you remember when he sold Mata and people actually suggested Mourinho has a problem with Spaniards? I do, he's trying to clean his image by making Fabregas his wife now LDN Blue, Stingray and Reddish-Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Real Madrid president Florentino Perez wants to complete the transfer of Chelsea forward Eden Hazard next summer, before the 24-year-old's value rises even further. (Metro, via fichajes.net) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Mourinho watching Konoplyanka atm, got a feeling unless the situation improves by Xmas one of these 2 people will be out of the door next summer, probably Mourinho. Then again I wouldn't mind us selling Hazard for £100m and sign someone like Isco, Reus for the combined fee or even someone like Bale in exchange is good too.If we lose Hazard and get Bale or even Reus+Isco I'd be pretty disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 He needs a boot up the bum. Every player and very person has a poor day or run. He'll be back on top, just gotta be patient. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 His body language is very poor - clearly not in the right place mentally and is being scrutinised for every little misstep. The irony is delicious considering Ivanovic has been even worse. The thing is, even in a poor performance, Hazard can do something in a second, a flash of brilliance to change a game. As you say, it'll be one or the other. Mourinho prefers functional players over stylish ones, though I suppose there have been one or two exceptions. Are you an expert on body language and reading minds?If so...can you run through each player and give us an insight.Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 not really. Can't remember many of them. He had his problems with RM - which he was right btw. Kevin criticized him a lot, and I think Mata and Schurrle let out some comments too, but is it a coincidence it's always by scorned players? If there's one thing he used to have before RM was players praising him, and like Ibra saying they'd die for him. RM ruined Mourinho in more ways than one, and ever since he scorned some players and mostly all of them had a few words to say, but then again, he chose others oven them, so I don't think they'd feel that great to speak positively? I get what you're saying but just because those players were unhappy and sold by Mourinho, it doesn't mean their comments should just be disregarded like yesterday's trash. One could easily say those who spoke well of Mourinho said what they said because they did well under him. Otherwise, they would have likely said the opposite things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Are you an expert on body language and reading minds?If so...can you run through each player and give us an insight.Thanks.There's no need to be so abrupt - any idiot can see his head is clearly not in the right place from his abject performances alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Are you an expert on body language and reading minds?If so...can you run through each player and give us an insight.Thanks.you dont need to be an expert to understand body language ,, just a keen observer with intelligence which is what Alex has demonstrated on here over the years ,I could attempt to read your mind as it doesnt take an expert to do that but I will refrain merely to note you are well named. BlueLion., Reddish-Blue and Anthon_nini 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 There's no need to be so abrupt - any idiot can see his head is clearly not in the right place from his abject performances alone.wasnt abrupt at all....was merely asking a question as the reading of such matters can be a complex thing and not as obvious and simple as you make out to the untrained eye.Of course there is the added matter of also knowing any players personally ( which one or two on here do ) and so therefore be in a better place to make a judgement call on their general well being and character with slight changes in body language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 you dont need to be an expert to understand body language ,, just a keen observer with intelligence which is what Alex has demonstrated on here over the years ,I could attempt to read your mind as it doesnt take an expert to do that but I will refrain merely to note you are well named. actually....mind reading is a speciality and you would need to be an expert in this case.But rather rich from you also, who had made a judgement call on me the other day, stating I wouldnt last long supporting the club as I had only joined here after our PL win in May. Something to do with I have Nigeria down as my country maybe ??? Schooled you a bit there sonny.Anyway, back on track...I have a feeling Jose is using smokescreens in regards to Hazard and the lad will be starting sooner rather than laterP.S. the name was picked intentionally for this chat site. I am quite a large contributer on the official one but use to amuse myself watching the antics of you lot chucking molotov cocktails at each other on here before signing up myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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