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As long as he flexes those huge arms of his when he scores, groans, and does a loud scream which echoes across the stadium, I'm happy.

Judging from his tweets saying "thank you to Chelsea fans" etc, it does seem like he actually WANTS a move here.

Hope he's not a bit slow though and realises AVB is no longer here.

Now all we need to hope for is loyalty in future seasons, if we can keep all these players loyal to the cause and wanting to stay at chelsea (which doesn't seem to be hard) then we have potentially set ourselves up for a very good 4-5 seasons with all these guys.

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I stopped reading there....

No success in Europe? Check out his honours.

He has far more than Hazard, don't see people complaining about his fee..........

Hazard is 21. Hulk will 26 in a month. And yes, Hulk's success in Europe has been very limited. Hulk has played 24 UCL games and has 7 goals and 2 assists. Hulk has played 18 games against teams from Spain and England and has 2 goals. He has 0 goals in 10 games against English clubs. It's the same issue. He has no success against top sides in his career. For this kind of money, you should be getting someone who has dominated.

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Hazard is 21. Hulk will 26 in a month. And yes, Hulk's success in Europe has been very limited. Hulk has played 24 UCL games and has 7 goals and 2 assists. Hulk has played 18 games against teams from Spain and England and has 2 goals. He has 0 goals in 10 games against English clubs. It's the same issue. He has no success against top sides in his career. For this kind of money, you should be getting someone who has dominated.

It's not like Porto destroyed every single top team they played against in the European competitions and Hulk didn't help them. You can't judge a player only by his individual performances. Hulk is definitely top class, in my opinion.

I don't think we should complain about the money. It's not like Roman pays all of this from our bank accounts.

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Valencia's been with United for three years now. He was average for two years and has had only one "fabulous" season.

Of course, you're right, but he was injured 2 years ago. The point is that Valencia has been incredible value. In order for Hulk to be good value, he has to turn into one of the best players in the world. And as far as FFP goes, it's real. No matter what the actual figures are, Chelsea can't go spending money like crazy. Chelsea have the highest wage bill in England and that's before Hazard and Hulk. This is a real issue.

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So - Who takes our free kicks from now on?

Hulk, Mata, Hazard and Lampard are all capable.

Hulk will be the best at long range shots and free kicks clearly. His accuracy from distance is unmatched. I haven't seen many close-rangers scored by him though.

Mata has amazing vision and finesse, but often lacks power behind his shot.

Hazard is the same as Mata really, but he has not quite as good vision, but more power behind the shot.

Lampard is Lampard. Hit or miss when it comes to FK's.

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Hazard is 21. Hulk will 26 in a month. And yes, Hulk's success in Europe has been very limited. Hulk has played 24 UCL games and has 7 goals and 2 assists. Hulk has played 18 games against teams from Spain and England and has 2 goals. He has 0 goals in 10 games against English clubs. It's the same issue. He has no success against top sides in his career. For this kind of money, you should be getting someone who has dominated.

And Drogba scored 5 goals in the champions league for Marseille, where are you going with this?...

EDIT: and he was 26..

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So - Who takes our free kicks from now on?

Hulk, Mata, Hazard and Lampard are all capable.

Hulk will be the best at long range shots and free kicks clearly. His accuracy from distance is unmatched. I haven't seen many close-rangers scored by him though.

Mata has amazing vision and finesse, but often lacks power behind his shot.

Hazard is the same as Mata really, but he has not quite as good vision, but more power behind the shot.

Lampard is Lampard. Hit or miss when it comes to FK's.

I imagine it will be Mata left-footed, Hazard right-footed and Lampard from deeper.

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So - Who takes our free kicks from now on?

Hulk, Mata, Hazard and Lampard are all capable.

Hulk will be the best at long range shots and free kicks clearly. His accuracy from distance is unmatched. I haven't seen many close-rangers scored by him though.

Mata has amazing vision and finesse, but often lacks power behind his shot.

Hazard is the same as Mata really, but he has not quite as good vision, but more power behind the shot.

Lampard is Lampard. Hit or miss when it comes to FK's.

Hulk and Lampard would probably take the FKs directly facing the goal especially when the former can hit a rocket free kick like Alex. Anything that is to either side probably goes to Mata and Hazard as think they are capable of placing the FK into the net.

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And Drogba scored 5 goals in the champions league for Marseille, where are you going with this?...

5 goals in 7 CL games is great. Drogba scored 11 goals in 16 games in Europe in one season with Marsailles and he signed for

£24m. He played 2 games against Liverpool and scored in both. He played against Newcastle and scored 2 goals. He played against Inter and scored. He scored against Real Madrid. Hulk has never had that type of success. It's not that I dislike Hulk, it's that the price is crazy. I know Chelsea fans are not supposed to talk about this, but It's also bad for football. RA spent like crazy when he first came and then he settled down but Chelsea and City have lead an insane rise in transfer prices and in wages.

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5 goals in 7 CL games is great. Drogba scored 11 goals in 16 games in Europe in one season with Marsailles and he signed for

£24m. He played 2 games against Liverpool and scored in both. He played against Newcastle and scored 2 goals. He played against Inter and scored. He scored against Real Madrid. Hulk has never had that type of success. It's not that I dislike Hulk, it's that the price is crazy. I know Chelsea fans are not supposed to talk about this, but It's also bad for football. RA spent like crazy when he first came and then he settled down but Chelsea and City have lead an insane rise in transfer prices and in wages.

Chelsea aren't solely to blame for the manic spending and prices of players though, it's the likes of liverpool and man city and some of the spanish teams also who are making the prices sky rocket. You didn't really expect the prices to stay like they were over the course of 8 years did you?

And one more thing in terms of the drogba goals and hulks "lack" of europe, however good hulk is... you are only as good as the team you are playing with, you really think with the team that he is playing with at Chelsea next season he wont be able to pull of special things? he scored 2 goals the other day for Brazil and set up the other on (granted it's just Denmark but still)..

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I think he'll do well but won't look a bargain at that price.

Unless he stays here for 10 years and wins the Champions League Final with an 88th minute header after going 1-0 down and scores the winning penalty, that is.

Drog was here for 8 years.. :P

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I dont know where these armchair economists get their backing from? I really dont, all they see is the figures that are posted on the internet about the clubs financial standings season on season, the club aren't going to reveal everything and they dont have to, because if they did there would be 100x more posts about FFP.. It's already annoying enough as it is that these people think they know more that the people who have trained and whose job it is to deal with all of these things...

They absolutely have to reveal everything financially. That's what the clubs AGM is for. No one is pulling figures out of their arse if they cite the AGM's figures.

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