Right-back Ramires?

[manpe 10,861]

Ambitious (outrageous) idea, but no. It would fuck his game, he's a midfielder (and lately a winger), and that's that. He will have plenty of chances to play in midfield or on the wing in a long season, but just not all the time. It's problematic because he doesn't fit the double pivot, he's not the one to tie defence to attack a la Lampard or Schweinsteiger - the laid back type of guys who simply take the ball from the goalkeeper/defenders and pass it forward accurately. He's a duracell bunny who feeds off the ball feeders.

He could play that role or as a defensive mid against weaker or mid-table clubs, but not as a constant starter. If we don't sign Hulk, Willian or any other winger for that matter, and if we loan out KDB again, then he will/should play as a winger, rotating between Marin, Hazard and Mata (goddamn jizzmatic to be able to say those names)... I will just disregard Malouda in that list as he hopefully will be shipped off or thrown into the stands. He's also a great asset on the wing as he can effectively help out in defence, I don't think the likes of Marin and Hazard are any better there than, say, Mata was at that.

Yes, Rambo can put in a shift or two at RB at extreme circumstances like Essien or Diarra some years back, but making him permanent there? Ivanovic break skinny boy fingers.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Wait for a month. Hulk will be ST, Ramires will be RW and torres will be on the bench

or Torres will be top scorer

[i.am.blue 61]

ramires at right back is not a good idea. he's only played their against barcelona. ramires plays better on the right midfield

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

This reminds of the David Luiz as a DM thread. Good idea but will never happen in real life.

[Kieran. 6,317]

I think Ramires will play as part of the double pivot - but that doesn't necessarily mean CDM. I think with Mikel he'll be more of a box-to-box, and with Lampard they would sit back more, alternating bursts forward, etc. Should work.

And for the record, I think Ramires has the skill set to be an excellent right back.

[Kojo 4,676]

Sell him, he will go for a good bit of cash.

[Strike 7,517]

Sell him, he will go for a good bit of cash.

nah mate. as u saw, he is crucial to our counter game against big teams. he was sorely missed in the final and will be more than useful against attacking opponents because he has the pace to attack and the stamina to get back and cover as well

[RamiCFC9 258]

nah mate. as u saw, he is crucial to our counter game against big teams. he was sorely missed in the final and will be more than useful against attacking opponents because he has the pace to attack and the stamina to get back and cover as well

With the team we are getting against how many teams exactly are we going to counterattack ?Arsenal, City what about the other 34 games in the league..Tha's why I don't rate Ramires on the wing against lesser teams with tightened defense he will be found hopeless.I want to see Ramires play where he is at his best MID.With Lamps or some1 like Modric.

[Japep 16]

nah mate. as u saw, he is crucial to our counter game against big teams. he was sorely missed in the final and will be more than useful against attacking opponents because he has the pace to attack and the stamina to get back and cover as well

I fully agree with you. We cannot sell him! He is an important piece of our team, and I hope he also will be that in the future.

[Strike 7,517]

With the team we are getting against how many teams exactly are we going to counterattack ?Arsenal, City what about the other 34 games in the league..Tha's why I don't rate Ramires on the wing against lesser teams with tightened defense he will be found hopeless.I want to see Ramires play where he is at his best MID.With Lamps or some1 like Modric.

i was merely saying we dont sell him and yeah, i think against the smaller teams it will be sturridge or hulk(?) on the right

[Azpinator 2,325]

Sure if our RBs were injured, it would make sense to play Ramires or Essien there. But I don't think we should consider Ramires as a second option RB for the whole season.. He makes our attack more efficient and that's what we clearly missed in the UCL final.

Our RB options for the new season should be: Ivanovic, Azpilicueta or Van der Wiel (instead of Bosingwa, hopefully) and a youngster (instead of Ferreira 'cause it's the same really).

[JDY 1,290]

Here's a crazy thought:

Torres

Hazard ------------------------- Hulk

Mata

Cole -------------------Mikel-------------- Ramires

Luiz --- Terry/Cahill --- Ivanovic

Cech

Would be quite lols.

I would like Hulk at Chelsea but it would be harsh on Ramires at the same time. He's been brilliant for us, just doesn't fit into the formation IF Hulk arrives.

[Japep 16]

I would like Hulk at Chelsea but it would be harsh on Ramires at the same time. He's been brilliant for us, just doesn't fit into the formation IF Hulk arrives.

If Hulk arrives we could use rotation. But it's true, Hulk doesn't that player, who has bought for the bench to... :S

[Kojo 4,676]

Ramires can only fit in our 4-3-3 system, and with Hazard looking like he will join us it seems that we will definitely be playing 4-2-3-1 in the future.

People are getting stupid and just putting your love and passion for Ramires over reality, you cannot be blinded by anything like that.

Fact is he cannot fit in the 4-2-3-1 system, FFP is coming up, he can go for at least 20 million, then sell him.

[Santiago. 1,500]

we will lose every bit of pace we have in the midfield. No please

[Strike 7,517]

Fact is he cannot fit in the 4-2-3-1 system, FFP is coming up, he can go for at least 20 million, then sell him.

he is a real asset in the games against teams around us in the table. actually 'real asset' is an understatement. against city or united, it will be ramires who will be more useful than hazard

[9ja leroy 0]

With E Hazard in hopefull some new fighters, i think Ramires will adapt well as a right back.

[Kojo 4,676]

he is a real asset in the games against teams around us in the table. actually 'real asset' is an understatement. against city or united, it will be ramires who will be more useful than hazard

What so we just keep him there for big games is that it?, i love his pace i do but it's not worth it.

We can cash in on this guy and it will benefit us a lot, someone else can take place of his wages and we will have a lot of cash to go out and spend on another player or let it balance the books (which is very important).

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

What so we just keep him there for big games is that it?, i love his pace i do but it's not worth it.

We can cash in on this guy and it will benefit us a lot, someone else can take place of his wages and we will have a lot of cash to go out and spend on another player or let it balance the books (which is very important).

Why sell your best players?

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

But I do totally agree with you that Ramires played "nice football" on the right hand side of the field. He naturally loves to defend, so he gave great protection to the right flank. He also established a good partnership with Mikel, who would fill in whenever Ramires ventured forward, and vice-versa. My concern is that he may well not play the football he deserves to next season, which is a shame. He is the player I enjoy watching most for Chelsea - more than even Mata. His dynamism is incredible and his passion and enthusiasm for the game is infectious. It would be criminal if he plays anything less than 40 games next season (fitness permitting) - and this case would suggest he can play more often, in a variety of positions.

agre wholeheartedly that he may not play enough next season, :-(

atleast u see whole picture!! i fear he may fall through cracks and maybe be seen as super sub or somethin. 4231 does not help imo the case for ramires. he then has to be used as winger witch takes away kdb and marin but then is used a one od cdm then he may not shine as much and have freedom to outrun opposition, although i look at some games earlier in season and he played well in cm role. although cdm may be a step too far.

i like 433 with the 3 mids playin in diamond .

Mata up top

Ramires (b2b,) mikel (dm)

ramires is used to this and can rotate with lampard. aswell as with mikel for a FEW games. or romeu can fill that role too. also lampard could play in mata role so we dont drain his legs like we did this year.

i was worried for studge but he's backup st

now ramires hopefully it works out.

next prob kdb

hahahahaha :-)