David Luiz

[CHOULO19 24,332]

look, what I found

Funny part is, that was probably his worst decision in the match because he almost gave it to a PSG player inside our box!

[duo11bluecl 207]

If Asier fucking Illaramendi is worth 40m, why wouldnt Luiz be 30? We know that most players shine once they leave Chelsea (Lukaku, Sturridge,...), Im sure Luiz would turn into world class CB in psg next to Silva or in barca (now impossible).

So, if footballing world values him at 30m, he is worth 30m. He might not be that good, but thats his worth.

Should we sell him? Absolutely fucking not. We dont need to sell him, he is still very usefull for us. He is added value and what is most important; he is our hero. The fact he was benched for much of season, staying calm, doing his job when called and giving such performance on biggest game of the year, he deserves to stay here. He isnt just nice guy like Mata was, but actualy very usefull player. We aint selling club and we dont need to sell. We will earn money on Torres, Ba, Mikel, Marin, Moses, Romeu,...potentialy even Cech and Lukaku (hopefuly not)

It doesn't work that way dude, Asier had a clause and Madrid had to pay it otherwise they wouldn't sell. No one would pay 40-50m for Luiz maybe even 35m. PSG, Barca are the only 2 clubs interested and 1 got a transfer ban until 2015.

Who said we are selling Cech...etc and those players you listed would get us probably 20m-25m max.

[robsblubot 3,502]

It doesn't work that way dude, Asier had a clause and Madrid had to pay it otherwise they wouldn't sell.

You've just described how every other deal is done in football.

When the seller is not very keen on selling, the buyer needs to trigger the release clause - or get very close to.

[didierforever 7,349]

the point is, if we sell DL, then who do we buy?

our options for CMs are

definite - MATIC, RAMBO

maybe - MVG

should not be - LAMPS, MIKEL.

cos lets be honest, his chelsea career as a CB may very well be over..

[duo11bluecl 207]

the point is, if we sell DL, then who do we buy?

our options for CMs are

definite - MATIC, RAMBO

maybe - MVG

should not be - LAMPS, MIKEL.

Load of back up mid over Europe that are decent back up for around 5-10m. Look at teams like Valencia, Sevilla...etc for those players. Matic+Ramires 1st choice with VK and maybe Frank as back up, more than enough. Then there is Mikel too(but think he will be sold)

[didierforever 7,349]

Load of back up mid over Europe that are decent back up for around 5-10m. Look at teams like Valencia, Sevilla...etc for those players. Matic+Ramires 1st choice with VK and maybe Frank as back up, more than enough. Then there is Mikel too(but think he will be sold)

mikel will be sold.

ramires has shown that he is not very comfortable in the no.8 role.

judgement on mvg is still to be made

lamps is past it.

DL despite his liabilities is a massive big game player. its not a co-incidence that he has played against city, pool, united, arsenal, and CL matches (which are all big matches). jose definitely rates him high in mid.

[duo11bluecl 207]

mikel will be sold.

ramires has shown that he is not very comfortable in the no.8 role.

judgement on mvg is still to be made

lamps is past it.

DL despite his liabilities is a massive big game player. its not a co-incidence that he has played against city, pool, united, arsenal, and CL matches (which are all big matches). jose definitely rates him high in mid.

Dude we don't have/won't have perfect players in every single position. The rest of the team will be more than world class, that 2nd CDM role for Ramires and VGK is alright. Luiz might do well in some big games but in general he has been very inconsistent and that means 30m+ is quite overpriced for these luxury players.

[iseah100 5,612]

I love this guy lol.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I love this guy lol.

Neil: Are you good at real football or table football?

David: Basketball!!! :D

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Why would Mourinho play Luiz at RB where he is more likely to get a card than just play A Cole who played well for England before he was injured?? Its no longer time to experiment, last time we experimented we went down 3-1. Just play AC3 at leftback he still has it in him to play a key role for us especially in at least one game

[duo11bluecl 207]

Why would Mourinho play Luiz at RB where he is more likely to get a card than just play A Cole who played well for England before he was injured?? Its no longer time to experiment, last time we experimented we went down 3-1. Just play AC3 at leftback he still has it in him to play a key role for us especially in at least one game

Pride and personal problem.

[Oscar 441]

I'm really surprised both Luiz and Lampard didn't play today. Both have a rocket shot (well, at least Lampard has good accuracy in them).

I think ramires never should of played today and either lampard or luiz should of.

[The Chels 2,502]

I'm really surprised both Luiz and Lampard didn't play today. Both have a rocket shot (well, at least Lampard has good accuracy in them).

I think ramires should never play again.

Fixed.

[Sheva. 5,373]

I'm really surprised both Luiz and Lampard didn't play today. Both have a rocket shot (well, at least Lampard has good accuracy in them).

Because of game in midweek. I'd have brought on Lampard though, not his usual self when it comes to goal-scoring this season, but i'd still bet on him than our other players.

[Henrique 9,133]

Fixed.

Ramires is the new scapegoat, replacing Luiz in that role, who replaced Mikel. Also in the waiting list: Oscar, William. Matic still has some seasons before he is finally ready.

[The Chels 2,502]

Ramires is the new scapegoat, replacing Luiz in that role, who replaced Mikel. Also in the waiting list: Oscar, William. Matic still has some seasons before he is finally ready.

I know you're trying to be all patriotic defending your fellow Brazillians, but criticising Ramires for being a reckless, inept and visionless ATHLETE (and not footballer) is surely justified criticism rather than 'scapegoating' - but if you feel that way then more fool you.

[bushman 2,043]

I get the feeling most of our samba dancers are getting very funny, lately.

[Henrique 9,133]

I know you're trying to be all patriotic defending your fellow Brazillians, but being annoyed at a reckless, inept and visionless ATHLETE (and not footballer) is justified criticism and not 'scapegoating' - but if you feel that way then more fool you.

Actually the most "patriotic" forum member here is the one that liked your post. Everybody knows what Ramires can and can't do, and people who knows one thing or two about football (and thats not your case) understand he is a useful player. Actually he has been one of our most useful player in past seasons, he was tremendous in 2011/12, now suddenly he is useless and "should never play again".