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Is someone offering £30 million for JT or Cahill?

Is there some rule that says we can't sign other defenders?

Exactly. Potential.

He's 26 years old and we're talking about potential??

Seven Seasons.

300 Appearances.

20 International Caps.

Potential??????

Yes POTENTIAL. He has the potential to become the best, what is wrong about this? And what has age to do with it? He is 26 years old, hardly old for a defender. May i remind you that Carvalho was 26 when he joined us? Yoy want to tell me that he didn't improve when he was playing for us? I have said many times, Luiz will only get better and better with a proper midfield and a top manager.

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30 mio wouldnt be enough..we paid like 20-25 millions for him and he has improves since then?! why should we sell him and make a loss with him, when there is no need to do so. Luiz can only get better with a manager like Mourinho, he has the passion, the skill, the talent and the determination to do so. and in terms to FFP: think we dont have a problem with it. even if we buy cavani for 60 m on a 5-year contract, it would be like 12 m per year for him.

also, who are the options instead of him? dont see that many good CBs on the market?!

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Yes POTENTIAL. He has the potential to become the best, what is wrong about this? And what has age to do with it? He is 26 years old, hardly old for a defender. May i remind you that Carvalho was 26 when he joined us? Yoy want to tell me that he didn't improve when he was playing for us? I have said many times, Luiz will only get better and better with a proper midfield and a top manager.

Good points. The issue I have is whether he has the personality that can eliminate these mistakes entirely. When you look at someone like JT and Kompany, these guys live to defend. They love to make a near-post clearance or a clattering challenge. That's the best thing about football for them.

With Luiz, I think he wants to be on the ball, going towards goal and having a shot. That's great but is that what Jose Mourinho wants to build a title-winning side on? Does he want that as his platform or does he want to nasty cunts who stop the ball and give it to the midfield?

Personally I'd like to see what Mourinho could do with Luiz but if he chose to sell him then I'd understand entirely.

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Good points. The issue I have is whether he has the personality that can eliminate these mistakes entirely. When you look at someone like JT and Kompany, these guys live to defend. They love to make a near-post clearance or a clattering challenge. That's the best thing about football for them.

With Luiz, I think he wants to be on the ball, going towards goal and having a shot. That's great but is that what Jose Mourinho wants to build a title-winning side on? Does he want that as his platform or does he want to nasty cunts who stop the ball and give it to the midfield?

Personally I'd like to see what Mourinho could do with Luiz but if he chose to sell him then I'd understand entirely.

My issue isn't just about selling Luiz...it's the fact that we could sell him to Farcalona...of all clubs.

We should be asking for more than 30 million. Kind of like how Porto adds an extra 5 million when they wanna sell players to us....we should ask for a bit more.

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I didn't mean as first choice. Who would you rather have on the field, Terry, Luiz or Cahill?

At this moment, probably Luiz but it depends on what happens this summer and what their form is like.

If we signed two CBs then I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. We might even look at internal options like Nat or Ake.

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This whole idea that Luiz is a liability defensively is for the most part fueled by the media insisting that he is one - using ideas like the stupid 'he should move into midfield' idea to help create it. In my mind he was probably are best defender and I recall very little of his mistakes (which I don't think were that bad as some are trying to make it out) have led to goals. The likes of Terry, Ivanovic and Cahill have been much more of a liability defensively , making stupid mistakes that led to goals (Cahill backing of Adebayor and not closing him up, Terry lunging like a headless chicken against Newcastle and not marking Gervinho that led to Arsenal equalizing, Ivanovic - to many to list).

Yes if Barca offer something like £40 million then we might have to consider it. But if Jose wants David Luiz gone because he is seen as defensively a liability, to backs Terry or Cahill, then in my mind he is a flipping idiot

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My issue isn't just about selling Luiz...it's the fact that we could sell him to Farcalona...of all clubs.

We should be asking for more than 30 million. Kind of like how Porto adds an extra 5 million when they wanna sell players to us....we should ask for a bit more.

Here's a question. We sell him to them, sign someone like Cavani and we meet them in the CL semi-finals.

Would part of you be thinking that Luiz might throw in a mistake that gifts us a goal over the 180 minutes? At this moment, I'd be thinking exactly that because that's what I'm thinking when I watch him play for us.

Until I don't go into matches thinking that, then why wouldn't you consider an offer like that? Until you don't see him do what he did against Everton and think 'yep' then you have to look at offers like this.

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