David Luiz

[Billy. 2,742]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/9372540.stm

[spuz 143]

Well we do have an academy. And couple of young CBs. Including Bruma.

Yes and what will happen to Bruma when we get Luiz? Same as Sinclair,stoch,Mancienne,Cork etc probably.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Yes and what will happen to Bruma when we get Luiz? Same as Sinclair,stoch,Mancienne,Cork etc probably.

There's a West Brom loan being rumoured if the Luiz deal goes through, Di Matteo is the right man for his development

[Henrique 9,133]

Yes and what will happen to Bruma when we get Luiz? Same as Sinclair,stoch,Mancienne,Cork etc probably.

Bruma will play in another club on loan for two years, and when he come back Luiz will play as a striker and be the Premier League top scorer in 5 consecutive seasons.

Let me rephrase that....WAY! Too much..... For this kind of money we could probably get Christopher Samba, Andy Carrol or Luis Suarez and still have money to spare.. At least two of these are regular players in the Premier League.

David Luiz doesn't exactly have a John Terry like structure either. For a CB he is actually pretty small...

...let me explain to you, we are talking about football, not about rugby, and a CB is as important as a striker if you are talking winning trophies.

[Madmax 9,219]

He looks like Chicharito with Puyol's hair.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Nah cant see it going like Robhino.They seem a bit less annoying then Madrid and no ones stuck his shirt on the website.

[eldo 868]

Hahah surely. We only cenceded 27 goals this season so far in all competitions. Our defence is curently the best in the league and i can bet we would concede even less if our attack and midfield played better.

Kolo Toure can say whatever he wants to make his black ass look better (I'm not racist), but without Tevez goals their season would go down the drain. They would be kicked out of FA Cup, he won them points against Wolves, Blackpool...

Luiz is probably good buy for future, however we don't need him soo badly for the remainder of this season.

[Madmax 9,219]

Hahah surely. We only cenceded 27 goals this season so far in all competitions. Our defence is curently the best in the league and i can bet we would concede even less if our attack and midfield played better.

Kolo Toure can say whatever he wants to make his black ass look better (I'm not racist), but without Tevez goals their season would go down the drain. They would be kicked out of FA Cup, he won them points against Wolves, Blackpool...

Luiz is probably good buy for future, however we don't need him soo badly for the remainder of this season.

What's Toure said?

[eldo 868]

What's Toure said?

That defenders win you trophies.

[TrueChelseaBlue 105]

That defenders win you trophies.

Football's a team game... without a strong side, dedication, commitment from EVERYONE in the team, you wont win a thing.

It's not just defenders and sttrikers that win you trophies, if you havent got a strong side, with good morale, your fucked.

[termninja 5,290]

Nope it ain't defenders that win you trophies, it's the whole team. If you have a deadly attack but weak defense or vice versa you won't do too well...

Alex injured, Terry injury from time to time which leaves us with Ivanovic and Bruma. I believe we need a centre back at the moment like everyone says, and if we are going to buy one, then it's better that he's really good and expensive rather then some middle-class one.

Agree that City wouldn't do shit if there wasn't for Tevez.

[eldo 868]

Football's a team game... without a strong side, dedication, commitment from EVERYONE in the team, you wont win a thing.

It's not just defenders and sttrikers that win you trophies, if you havent got a strong side, with good morale, your fucked.

Definitly. That's the most important thing, to have a unit.

But still attacking minded players score you goals.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I maintain goalkeepers are the most important part of a team... you're kind of fucked without them. But the fact is, this is a team game, and everyone plays their part. Strikers do their business when you win 6-0, and the defenders and the goalkeepers do their business when you win 1-0. Everyone contributes so the argument's a pretty void one.

[TrueChelseaBlue 105]

Definitly. That's the most important thing, to have a unit.

But still attacking minded players score you goals.

Well yes, they do, without goals, you aint got nothin..

[pachman40 357]

OK, I'm brand new to the forum but I want to get involved here. First, a little background...I'm a big Benfica fan and I'm also a big Chelsea fan. I must confess that I'm not a "born and raised Chelsea fan" and I jumped on the Chelsea bandwagon when Mourinho arrived but I've stayed on and am proud to be blue.

That being said, there is a LOT of misinformation in this thread. First of all, Luiz is not as versatile as most people are discussing here, that is not a knock against him at all but simply to keep the facts straight. He has never played RB or DM for Benfica but he played quite a bit of LB 2 seasons ago. He is fantastic as a CB and excellent as a LB.

As far as Chelsea having other needs ahead of defenders, I understand your position but I don't understand your logic. The fact that Chelsea are looking at this guy NOW just proves that they are committed to stabilizing this team going forward. We are too old now and it is catching up to us. Obviously we need creativity in the mid-field and we need a new striker but that shouldn't blind us to what we'll be needing in a couple of years. This is a positive move and a positive mentality for this club and we have to get behind it!

Also, there has been a lot of talk in this thread of Luiz's place in the pecking order and him being a back-up. Make no mistake, Luiz is being bought to start beside Terry. I have a lot of respect for Alex and Brano but this guy will be top 5 in the world within 2-3 years no doubt in my mind. I know there is a lot of loyalty here towards the current squad but this guy is special. When Benfica brought him in he was supposed to be a squad player for the future. First game he played was against Porto and was due to a bunch of injuries and suspensions to our regulars but he played amazing and I remember turning to a friend of mine and saying "this guy's gonna be a star" and before you know it a couple of years later he's player of the year in our league. I know that the portuguese league does not have much respect in England but the bottom line is that this guy is way better than you're giving him credit for.

Next, Benfica are not desperate for money and they are not desperate to sell him in this window. There is no need to spout off about their greed or their negotiating tactics. Bottom line is that they know what they have in this player and they know that if they don't sell him now the value is not going down in the summer unless he gets hurt. Don't be naive and think Chelsea/Man City are the only ones who would splash the cash for him. Also, for the people saying that Benfica fans want this deal to go through because he's not worth it, I don't know where that came from. I believe the more accurate sentiment is that we've resigned ourselves to losing him the way we did with DiMaria last summer and the way we will with Coentrao next summer. We just want the whole saga to end so we can move forward. Its definitely good money and there's always a risk to lose some value going forward.

Lastly, some people need to get over this idea that defenders are not worth this kind of money. Carvalho, Pepe, Cannavarro, Ferdinand, etc...all went for big money and they were all worth every penny. It makes no sense to settle for the Cahills of this world just because of sticker-shock on Luiz.

I'm torn on this deal since I'm a fan of both sides but I honestly feel Chelsea will end up winning big on this deal. I hope I offered a different perspective on the situation to you guys and I look forward to talking more about it with you.