robsblubot 3,595 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Two things.................... Cahill may not be the most gifted defender in the world but he has shown more commitment to our cause than Luiz this season. Cahill dont go "walkabout" Luiz has been found wandering about this season. When he becomes more disciplined he will regain his place, otherwise it's Cahills spot to lose.Secondly...............Yes the Irish do give 110%..BUT WE DONT LOSE EVERY TIME MATE !!!!!! Fair enough ... please don't take it personally - this whole thing about winning and losing is a lot more about population size, GDP, focus on football, and far less about the empirical things we like to talk about. in fact, being that big of a footballing nation hasn't really helped Brazil in any way - it may actually have hurt its development or so some believe.On technique, quality talent... Back in Brazil there is a southern announcer who says when a poor side is very committed and motivated (for whatever reason) before facing a far better side, that they are going to lose all the same - with or without the extra motivation and commitment.I guess Belgium are especially committed these days; the fact they have Hazard, Benteke, KDB, and host of other extremely talented players probably isn't a factor at all... The answer is also socioeconomic as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Fair enough ... please don't take it personally - this whole thing about winning and losing is a lot more about population size, GDP, focus on football, and far less about the empirical things we like to talk about. in fact, being that big of a footballing nation hasn't really helped Brazil in any way - it may actually have hurt its development or so some believe.On technique, quality talent... Back in Brazil there is a southern announcer who says when a poor side is very committed and motivated (for whatever reason) before facing a far better side, that they are going to lose all the same - with or without the extra motivation and commitment.I guess Belgium are especially committed these days; the fact they have Hazard, Benteke, KDB, and host of other extremely talented players probably isn't a factor at all... The answer is also socioeconomic as usual.No worries.....I didn't take it personally at all.........Remember, it's just a game, not a science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 ConcentrationCalmnessPositioningWorkrateDecision makingHe better fix those things soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Cahill probably switches off twice as much as Luiz during games.Can you give me a couple of examples SeB? I know that Luiz is a far more gifted and intelligent footballer than Cahill, but that counts for diddly squat when you keep making schoolboy errors. I cant fault Cahill in his last few matches and he sticks to his position. Luiz, on the other hand is a fantastic talent, but would be a much better Defensive midfielder than an out an out defender. At least as a DM if he goes walkabout he would have defenders in position (like Cahill ) behind him. Dont get me wrong, I really love Luiz but he just needs to tighten up his game, then he would be unreplaceable. Phil Driver and Sheva. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Can you give me a couple of examples SeB? I know that Luiz is a far more gifted and intelligent footballer than Cahill, but that counts for diddly squat when you keep making schoolboy errors. I cant fault Cahill in his last few matches and he sticks to his position. Luiz, on the other hand is a fantastic talent, but would be a much better Defensive midfielder than an out an out defender. At least as a DM if he goes walkabout he would have defenders in position (like Cahill ) behind him. Dont get me wrong, I really love Luiz but he just needs to tighten up his game, then he would be unreplaceable.Cahill went walkabout in the opening minutes vs. Basel, lost the ball cheaply leading to Basel's chance from the FK. Luckily Cech had a decent game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Off topic, but that quote is epic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Off topic, but that quote is epic Glad you liked it Sheva !!!! Which part??????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 ConcentrationCalmnessPositioningWorkrateDecision makingHe better fix those things soon.What the fuck? Henrique and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 According to reports in the north pole, water can cure cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 If we sell Luiz we will have a very light defense. What's the point in selling him if we would need to bring someone else in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Luiz as DM is a myth, he's nowhere as good as at CB. Only Benitez's fanclub can dare pretending Benitez "invented" Luiz's new position whereas he rather only had the choice between putting the boots himself or field Luiz in midfield Well, our choices haven't improved in the midfield dept. quite yet. But he is definitely a better CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Cahill can't cover his full back to save his life, constantly out of position because he's ball-watching. Loses his man in the box (just like Luiz does, but Luiz has a lot of actual world class defensive abilities). Passive defending all the time, could retreat back on 30 yards and end up in his side's net without ever making the first moveLuiz as DM is a myth, he's nowhere as good as at CB. Only Benitez's fanclub can dare pretending Benitez "invented" Luiz's new position whereas he rather only had the choice between putting the boots himself or field Luiz in midfIeldPoints taken and well made, though I was not in Benitez's fanclub I still would like to see Luiz given a midfield start. If he does get his place back in the centre of defence I just feel he will really have to raise his game and his level of concentration to stay in the team. We all know he has it in him, but we need to see it.....and soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 What the fuck???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 5, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 5, 2013 Can't wait for him to get back into the team. Ainsley Harriott, Blue Armour, Pacquiao and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Can't wait for him to get back into the team.Same here. The Skipper and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What he brings to the table far outweighs the risk of a rush of blood every now and again, for me. Barbara, TrueChelseaBlue and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I will only judge him again when he gets the chance to play, at the moment he is still as good as his last performances and I hope he has been working hard in training and not acting the clown as this can translate to the match if you are not taking the game seriously and that includes training. He will play soon and needs to eradicate the careless errors in his game,every time I see him at Cobham he seems to be messing around and not taking it seriously. One would have hoped being droped when you were given every chance to be first choice would have woken him up and we see the player we all know is there soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I will only judge him again when he gets the chance to play, at the moment he is still as good as his last performances and I hope he has been working hard in training and not acting the clown as this can translate to the match if you are not taking the game seriously and that includes training. He will play soon and needs to eradicate the careless errors in his game,every time I see him at Cobham he seems to be messing around and not taking it seriously. One would have hoped being droped when you were given every chance to be first choice would have woken him up and we see the player we all know is there soon.Sure you want him back, you cant wait to resume your usual trolling in this topic. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Still out of the team It sucks because I feel like Terry could use a rest. We have 9 matches this month and having no rotation in the CBs would be tragic, especially when one of them is over his 30 and has had physical issues quite frequently.It's not even about what Luiz brings or not at this point (although I do think he brings a lot), it's about we needing backup for Terry and later for Cahill when he also feels the weight of so many matches... Phil Driver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What he brings to the table far outweighs the risk of a rush of blood every now and again, for me. Agreed until this season. Now he doesn't even bother to go forward anymore and also looks like he don't care in defence anymore, especially that Newcastle game. Then coming out with arrogant rubbish statements about himself, it is almost as if that Barca bid had made him change. Maybe being praised as the best CB in the world by Mou and the press in the summer after Confederation Cup doesn't help either. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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