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Islam is hated by all(except muslims), where as Judaism is accepted by all. Abraham( whom all of the 3 religions are based on), is jewish.

Kill women and children as much as you want, but underline it as an ISLAMIC act.

Islam is hated by all(except muslims), where as Judaism is accepted by all. Abraham( whom all of the 3 religions are based on), is jewish.

Kill women and children as much as you want, but underline it as an ISLAMIC act.

Ban this guy please. justin and Cap go ban for insulting posts, this is probably the most offensive post i've seen on TC.

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Freedom of expression is a right guaranteed to ALL. I apologize if I offended you, but you started spouting ignorance first

As I said, I apologize offending anyone.

I spouted ignorance? Most people would say otherwise in reference to this "debate". Petr cech guy scoop to your level. You insulted a religion, saying killing is an islamic act is unbelively offnesive and has no place on this forum. And also just thought id say you say abraham is jewish. Muslims believe he was a muslim, they refrer to him as ibrahim and he's a very holy prophet in islam. Every religion sees people in different ways. But i don't want to go into religion. We were discussing Palestine and israel.

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Watch and listen.

Watched the first 20 seconds. Absolute garbage and couldn't keep watching. When people say "Jews flourished in the Arab world" (or similar claims about how Jews always had it good in Muslim countries) they clearly have no idea what they are talking about and are interested in getting across an agenda rather than in historical research. Jews were severely persecuted in Muslim countries. It was generally better than it was in Europe, but losing 7-0 is better than losing 11-0. It doesn't make it good. Jews living in Arab countries were confined to ghettos, persecuted, and not infrequently massacred. Of course, this is so symptomatic of the entire conflict-to portray one side as evil rejectionists and the others as innocent, peace-loving victims. The conflict is incredibly complex and everyone there's been more than enough idiocy and blame to go around.

Were the Palestinians supposed to accept Jews taking their land? No, of course not. Nobody would say "hey come take m land because you have a historical connection to it". Was Israeli's creation some historically awful event that means that Israel's right to exist needs to be constantly questioned? Obviously not. The creation of basically every country in the world was worse than Israel's. Almost all of South and North America were created on the back of genocide (and their native populations still live in much worse conditions) and nobody says they have no right to exist..Are settlements justified because of some biblical passages or something? Of course not. They are illegal, immoral and indefensible. Can you rationally deny Jewish connection to Israel? No, you can't. Connection to Israel is so blindingly inherent in Judaism that deny is either complete ignorance of Judaism or lunacy. Yet, in a handful of posts, you basically see all of this. I'm so sick of this shit. No other conflict do people think they know so much and actually know so little.

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I spouted ignorance? Most people would say otherwise in reference to this "debate". Petr cech guy scoop to your level. You insulted a religion, saying killing is an islamic act is unbelively offnesive and has no place on this forum.

It would be better to let the moderators ban any Israel-Palestine discussions. It's a topic that will NEVER be understood, unless you are Arabic or Jewish, in which case you are biased.

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Facts of the day;

Three million people live below the poverty line in the UK, with many going hungry. 128,687 people in the UK were fed by food banks between 2011 and 2012 - a 100 per cent increase on the previous year.

With the loss of Unions and any bargaining power for workers, the United States now has the highest percentage of low-wage workers—that is, workers who make less than two-thirds of the median wage—of any developed nation in the World.

The richest 1000 people however, have seen their income rise by 10% ($414bn) since the so called 'crash' that we are supposed to buy into

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  • 2 weeks later...

Just a thought -

Some of Britain’s royals are racists and get away with it. Prince Philip made shocking comments about the Chinese (slitty eyed) Australians, Kenyans, The Irish, Scottish, and was left to simmer in his own arrogant smugness – a twat who probably knew he was untouchable. John Terry however was charged etc.

Two tier system of justice operating in favour of the ''royals'' in lily white British monarchy :rant:

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