manpe 10,861 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Fernando said: Your saying as if thats the case every time. Not always a baby will be born to a "abusive crackhead family". I was an embryo once and I can tell you that I'm happy no one aborted me. You are not the whole world. And I was not saying that's the case every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,589 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, manpe said: You are not the whole world. And I was not saying that's the case every time. So then what your saying does not make sense. Just like I was an embryo so too all aborted baby. And we all have the right to live. Not to mention there's many safe heaven laws especially in the US where you can drop your baby that you don't want. As theres many people that will adopt the baby you don't want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Fernando said: So then what your saying does not make sense. Just like I was an embryo so too all aborted baby. And we all have the right to live. Not to mention there's many safe heaven laws especially in the US where you can drop your baby that you don't want. As theres many people that will adopt the baby you don't want. Ok, I disagree. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 14 hours ago, Fernando said: It's murder simple as that. And you have a choice because no one chose to abort you. Your taking that right away from someone that wants to be born. I will not vote for someone that does not defend the right to live. And the person of that Roe v Wade also believes the same thing now despite winning that case many years ago: Norma Leah Nelson McCorvey (September 22, 1947 – February 18, 2017), better known by the legal pseudonym "Jane Roe", was the plaintiff in the landmark American lawsuit Roe v. Wade in 1973.[2] The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that individual state laws banning abortion were unconstitutional. Later, McCorvey's views on abortion changed substantially; she became a Roman Catholic activist in the anti-abortion movement.[3] McCorvey stated that her involvement in Roe was "the biggest mistake of [her] life."[4] it is NOT murder murder is the deliberate taking of a human life what determines what construes a human life? sentience capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively what gives human's that? brain waves 5 main types these do not occur in their entirety until well into the 3rd trimester the key part is the last of all to mature, the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for most of what we think of as mental life–conscious experience, voluntary actions, thinking, remembering, and feeling. It has only begun to function around the time gestation comes to an end therefore the foetus before that is NOT in possession of what it takes to be inherently a human being and you cannot use the potentiality argument as potentially I am the prime minister of Great Britain BUT I m NOT accorded the duties and powers of that office until I actually posses it so stay the FUCK out my and ALL other women's wombs!!! our bodies, our fucking choice i will be well fucked if I let some 2000 year old fairytale book about an imaginary sky being dictate what the hell I or any woman does with her reproductive capacity one last thing the biggest fucking hypocrites in the goddamn world are pro forced birthers who say abortion is always wrong EXCEPT in cases of rape or incest well, under that cocked-up logic what the hell is the difference between aborting a foetus that came from daddy banging daughter dearest and also taking a gun and blowing away its sister and brother, who are aged 3 and 7 now and also came from daddy banging daughter!!!! according to pro forced birthers, all 3 are 'humans' typical situational cunts GMAFB manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,589 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Vesper said: it is NOT murder murder is the deliberate taking of a human life what determines what construes a human life? sentience capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively what gives human's that? brain waves 5 main types these do not occur in their entirety until well into the 3rd trimester the key part is the last of all to mature, the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for most of what we think of as mental life–conscious experience, voluntary actions, thinking, remembering, and feeling. It has only begun to function around the time gestation comes to an end therefore the foetus before that is NOT in possession of what it takes to be inherently a human being and you cannot use the potentiality argument as potentially I am the prime minister of Great Britain BUT I m NOT accorded the duties and powers of that office until I actually posses it so stay the FUCK out my and ALL other women's wombs!!! our bodies, our fucking choice i will be well fucked if I let some 2000 year old fairytale book about an imaginary sky being dictate what the hell I or any woman does with her reproductive capacity one last thing the biggest fucking hypocrites in the goddamn world are pro forced birthers who say abortion is always wrong EXCEPT in cases of rape or incest well, under that cocked-up logic what the hell is the difference between aborting a foetus that came from daddy banging daughter dearest and also taking a gun and blowing away its sister and brother, who are aged 3 and 7 now and also came from daddy banging daughter!!!! according to pro forced birthers, all 3 are 'humans' typical situational cunts GMAFB I gave you an example of the same lady that you mentioned about Roe v Wade states she made the biggest mistake of her life. And she changed to be a pro life from abortion. If you cared to watch a great documentary and hear testimony about all that's wrong with this abortion scheme: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fernando said: I gave you an example of the same lady that you mentioned about Roe v Wade states she made the biggest mistake of her life. And she changed to be a pro life from abortion. If you cared to watch a great documentary and hear testimony about all that's wrong with this abortion scheme: I DO NOT CARE no one is going to tell me what the hell to do with my body nor tell women in general what we can and cannot do with our reproductive rights not happening especially as the vast majority of the most virulent forced birthers are fucking men manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,589 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Vesper said: I DO NOT CARE no one is going to tell me what the hell to do with my body nor tell women in general what we can and cannot do with our reproductive rights not happening especially as the vast majority of the most virulent forced birthers are fucking men ermm that was a women in the Roe v Wade that turn from abortionist to pro life..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 18 hours ago, Fernando said: ermm that was a women in the Roe v Wade that turn from abortionist to pro life..... it is not pro life that is right wing framing that tries to make it seem like we are doing something that is anti-humanity it is forced birthing manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,589 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Vesper said: it is not pro life that is right wing framing that tries to make it seem like we are doing something that is anti-humanity it is forced birthing It's murder because your taking the right to live. Like I said I'm glad my mother didn't killed me. She let me live and here I am writing to you. And I'm here to tell you that no matter if you do it I will still love you and forgive you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 As conservative as I am, I don't think there should be a blanket ruling on abortion. Touchy subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 15/02/2020 at 5:16 PM, Fernando said: It's murder because your taking the right to live. Like I said I'm glad my mother didn't killed me. She let me live and here I am writing to you. And I'm here to tell you that no matter if you do it I will still love you and forgive you. it is not murder, as I previously and meticulously laid out like hell if I ever relent to letting fundie religious delusional fascists drive us women once again into back alley dodgy and life-threatening abortion chop shops to simply maintain self-control over our bodies and our lives reproductive rights and female autonomy are things I will never surrender, ever thank fuck I do not live in a regressive and dangerous country like the US or other hubristic backwaters that are semi or fully run by thuggish men once again trying to maintain or reinstate thousands of years of patriarchal domination Iggy Doonican, 11Drogba and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 15/02/2020 at 4:32 PM, Vesper said: it is not murder, as I previously and meticulously laid out like hell if I ever relent to letting fundie religious delusional fascists drive us women once again into back alley dodgy and life-threatening abortion chop shops to simply maintain self-control over our bodies and our lives reproductive rights and female autonomy is one thing I will never surrender, ever thank fuck I do not live in a regressive and dangerous country like the US or other hubristic backwaters that are semi or fully run by thuggish men once again trying to maintain or reinstate thousands of years of patriarchal domination Superb post. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,367 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 What a circus. Not a good start for Bloomberg. Trump is enjoying this. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: What a circus. Not a good start for Bloomberg. Trump is enjoying this. lol at TRUMP trying to call out a journo fir MISSPELLING a word! lololol that bloated adderall addled buffoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Iggy Doonican said: Superb post. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: What a circus. Not a good start for Bloomberg. Trump is enjoying this. That's rich coming from Donald. His debates were entertaining (unfortunately seems to be the only thing that matters), but intellectually they were the worst political debates and it's not even close. When he got his ass handed to him by Clinton was spectacular, but the corrupt fucker got Russians to help him because of obvious business ties to them (too bad Mueller wasn't able to prove it). Sad to see he has even managed to manipulate religious people to take his side (granted, they are not hard to manipulate, so an obvious target for Trump). Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 20/02/2020 at 11:32 AM, NikkiCFC said: What a circus. Not a good start for Bloomberg. Trump is enjoying this. The election will see the Dems get the same kind of thrashing as Corbyn and his extremist Labour party got. More and more moderate people are being pushed to the Conservatives and this will continue for as long as the Lefties continue along the road with this dangerous and devisive Woke and identity politics BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 1:51 PM, chippy said: devisive Woke and identity politics BS. Please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,266 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 0:51 PM, chippy said: The election will see the Dems get the same kind of thrashing as Corbyn and his extremist Labour party got. More and more moderate people are being pushed to the Conservatives and this will continue for as long as the Lefties continue along the road with this dangerous and devisive Woke and identity politics BS. define what you mean by identity politics you sound like you are using right-wing talking points m8 or you are some neoliberal 3rd way Blairite type perhaps I am wrong, which is why I ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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