Politics & Stuff

[Barbara 15,149]

Palestinians are Muslims, Christian and Jews. Currently Muslims and Christian minority. But all the media does is remove the word Palestinians and put the word Hamas. Like they tried to remove the word Lebanese and replace it with Hezbollah. and Egypt with Muslim brotherhood. It is purely political and are run by a political ideology called Zionism. An ideology that most religious Jew see as no Jewish and refuse it. I am not talking about ordinary religious people only, but Rabbis.

so are you trying to tell me that Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya and many other countries that have been through hell with their internal politics are in this situation because of a group of Jewish rabbis? Now that's new information. I thought it was an extremist and authoritarian wing of Muslims... at least as far as I've read the info media spread here Jewish were never even mentioned.... I'm absolutely surprised by this revelation.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To Mohamed.

And what is the name of the Ideology that causes Hamas to say in their charter that they want to obliterate Israel? Or are all Israel "Zionists"? Why do we hear in the marches "death to Israel", "death to America"? Or Arab leaders saying "Zionists are descendants of apes and pigs"? This has nothing to do with anti-Zionism but it's pure antisemitism. There is NOTHING wrong with being proud of your homeland or culture which is what Zionism means. Jewish Rabbis? LOL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#Religious_Zionism

But unfortunately, anti- Zionism is now the new antisemetism and Jew hatred.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

so are you trying to tell me that Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya and many other countries that have been through hell with their internal politics are in this situation because of a group of Jewish rabbis? Now that's new information. I thought it was an extremist and authoritarian wing of Muslims... at least as far as I've read the info media spread here Jewish were never even mentioned.... I'm absolutely surprised by this revelation.

No, I didn't say it is because of Jewish Rabbis. It is because of a political movement called Zionism. A movement that started about 100 years ago and most religious rabbis actually hate. There is a big difference bewteen Judaisim and Zionism. One is a faith, respected, and the other is a political movement. There is a book called protocols of the elder zions. Check it out. There are also many books and researches (by Israeli Jews), that show how zionism is against Judaism.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To Mohamed.

And what is the name of the Ideology that causes Hamas to say in their charter that they want to obliterate Israel? Or are all Israel "Zionists"? Why do we hear in the marches "death to Israel", "death to America"? Or Arab leaders saying "Zionists are descendants of apes and pigs"? This has nothing to do with anti-Zionism but it's pure antisemitism. There is NOTHING wrong with being proud of your homeland or culture which is what Zionism means. Jewish Rabbis? LOL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#Religious_Zionism

But unfortunately, anti- Zionism is now the new antisemetism and Jew hatred.

Seriosly, help yourself mate and read. You will have a case. But to throw sentences around and claim they are facts on your personal opinion basis, that is lame.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Look at this video. This is what Hamas is doing to children!!! Even the Nazi's never used such evil and wicked techniques to brainwash their youth. How can anyone blame Jewish Rabbis for this insanity? Oh, please. It's time we get real and confront the real issues.

It's easy to bash Israel and the "Zionists" but they are only protecting their citizens from gaza rockets that have one purpose, to kill. Just this year alone, they've fired thousands of rockets into civilian areas in Israel. It's only through Israel's Iron Dome that they are able to protect themselves from this.. Firing rockets into enemy territory is a declaration of war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2014

Imagine this scenario. Mexico shares borders with the United States. Now, imagine Mexico firing enemy rockets into the US to kill civilians, into Texas and California for example. The president will send military troops to Mexico and the entire country will be leveled to the ground in a few weeks. No country will put up with that bullshit.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To Mohamed.

And what is the name of the Ideology that causes Hamas to say in their charter that they want to obliterate Israel? Or are all Israel "Zionists"? Why do we hear in the marches "death to Israel", "death to America"? Or Arab leaders saying "Zionists are descendants of apes and pigs"? This has nothing to do with anti-Zionism but it's pure antisemitism. There is NOTHING wrong with being proud of your homeland or culture which is what Zionism means. Jewish Rabbis? LOL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#Religious_Zionism

But unfortunately, anti- Zionism is now the new antisemetism and Jew hatred.

Keep laughing

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

No, I didn't say it is because of Jewish Rabbis. It is because of a political movement called Zionism. A movement that started about 100 years ago and most religious rabbis actually hate. There is a big difference bewteen Judaisim and Zionism. One is a faith, respected, and the other is a political movement. There is a book called protocols of the elder zions. Check it out. There are also many books and researches (by Israeli Jews), that show how zionism is against Judaism.

WOW, WOW, WOW. Are you aware this book is a WELL known forgery written by Russian antisemites in order to justify pogroms in Europe?

Hitler used this FORGERY to justify his Jew hatred and then eventually to justify the Holocaust. The fact that you even suggest this book to Barbara is unbelievable. Wow, wow, wow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Is there any sane, respected scholar that says this book wasn't a forgery? It's scary you think that's legitimate, mate. Seriously.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

WOW, WOW, WOW. Are you aware this book is a WELL known forgery written by Russian antisemites in order to justify pogroms in Europe?

Hitler used this FORGERY to justify his Jew hatred and then eventually to justify the Holocaust. The fact that you even suggest this book to Barbara is unbelievable. Wow, wow, wow.

LOL, you are unbelievable.

[Dion 2,476]

Wow, just WOW. Most of the "information" on the thread is from people that have vested interest to this. You can't separate the religious aspect from what is happening in Gaza. There is both religious and political aspect and the former outweighs the latter. Iisten to the Arabic and what Hamas leaders are saying not any "information" from football forums. Now, you can choose to live in la la land and bury your head in the sand, that's fine. Enjoy yourself.

And the information spread by western media has no vested interest whatsoever? That's big news to me. Of course I know there are religious aspects to the conflict. If there wasn't, probably the Isreali state wouldn't even have be founded where it has been founded. Holy land and all that.

Imagine this scenario. Mexico shares borders with the United States. Now, imagine Mexico firing enemy rockets into the US to kill civilians, into Texas and California for example. The president will send military troops to Mexico and the entire country will be leveled to the ground in a few weeks. No country will put up with that bullshit.

Let's imagine another scenario. UN decides half of Mexico now belongs to the US. No Mexican will put up with that bullshit, they'll fire rockets into the US. Let's not ignore the reason that started the conflict.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Lmao, the amount of times idiots come into this thread screaming "HAMAS IS BAD!!"

No shit you idiots.

[Rmpr 8,977]

You can put a solid argument any time you can mate

#owned

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

#owned

I have to admit, my feelings were hurt. LOL

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100265697/will-muslim-fanatics-ever-tire-of-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion/

Yep, let's justify Jew hatred by recommending a FORGERY written by Mathieu Golovinski, a Russian antisemite who worked for the incredibly antisemitic Okhrana, well known for organizing pogroms (Jewish lynchings!)

If this is the type of NONSENSE that is promoted in the middle-east, then I'm quite frankly, disgusted. Why not recommend to her Mein Kampf while you're at it? Or this instead:

PATHETIC and disappointing, though I'm not surprised.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I have to admit, my feelings were hurt. LOL

LOL. I bet you were. Who wouldnt want to have the privilege to call him mate!

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100265697/will-muslim-fanatics-ever-tire-of-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion/

Yep, let's justify Jew hatred by recommending a FORGERY written by Mathieu Golovinski, a Russian antisemite who worked for the incredibly antisemitic Okhrana, well known for organizing pogroms (Jewish lynchings!)

If this is the type of NONSENSE that is promoted in the middle-east, then I'm quite frankly, disgusted. Why not recommend to her Mein Kampf while you're at it? Or this instead:

PATHETIC and disappointing, though I'm not surprised.

How about the Avi Shaim? Oh self hating Israeli Jew. emmmm Maybe Norman Finkelstein? self hating jew. Shlomo Sand, Naom Chomsky? Self hating Israeli Jews. You are pathetic and that is not a surprise.

P.S. There are many more of self hating Israeli Jews that can answer you. READ

Edited July 24, 2014 by Mohammed Seif