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Islam and all religions I have a problem with but not people who are believers. Maybe we should open a religion thread, but it would probably be closed within an hour

That's like saying you have a problem with Liverpool FC but not the supporters - believers give the religion life. Without it it's just a collection of words and ideas floating in the ether.

Personally, I think it's a cop-out.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

That's like saying you have a problem with Liverpool FC but not the supporters - believers give the religion life. Without it it's just a collection of words and ideas floating in the ether.

Personally, I think it's a cop-out.

oooh youre a harsh man, Well I didnt mean to 'cop out'.

Religion is fine and I have met beautiful Christians, and Muslims, but when they are twisted to fit an agenda , like some anti-Islam people do to fit their barely hidden racism, its wrong.

I dont beleive in any Gods period. Do you ? Dont cop- out now.

[The only place to be 11,313]

oooh youre a harsh man, Well I didnt mean to 'cop out'.

Religion is fine and I have met beautiful Christians, and Muslims, but when they are twisted to fit an agenda , like some anti-Islam people do to fit their barely hidden racism, its wrong.

I dont beleive in any Gods period. Do you ? Dont cop- out now.

Nope.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Rotherham is the direct responsibility of the British version of Kieran on here. The dogmatic bourgeoisie left.

There was a labour councillor on R5 this morning, and he said every time someone at commitee meetings brought up the question of Asians grooming children, which was widespread knowledge, they were booed and hissed.

Apparently the Asian vote was wotrth 25 % to Labour in Rotheram and Bradford West.

Also said the cops regarded the girls as slags or 'wog meat'. These were children FFS

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At least theres a ceasefire of sorts now -even though Gaza is still in effect a prison camp.

Back to Iraq, -Bombing Iraq, as retired Air Force lieutenant colonel William Astore indicates, '' has become a national pastime.

It looks like Washington has finally created the perfect machine for the weapons industry.

Think of it this way: first Washington provides the Iraqi military with training and massive infusions of military equipment to the tune of $25 billion. Next that military, faced with its first serious opposition, the militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), numbering in the thousands against security forces in the hundreds of thousands, collapses. In June, two full divisions, 30,000 Iraqi troops, flee the city of Mosul, abandoning their posts in the face of the advance of ISIS fighters. In all, four divisions of the countrys 14-division army disintegrate throughout the north. Left behind is a massive trove of U.S.-supplied weaponry, including 1,500 Humvees, 52 U.S.-made M198 howitzers, tanks, trucks, rifles, and ammunition.

ISIS militants, who seem remarkably capable of operating such equipment without an American trainer or adviser in sight, then turn some of that weaponry (as well as weapons captured from the Syrian military) on U.S.-backed forces, including, in the north, Kurdish pesh merga militias. To save its Kurdish allies from disaster, the Obama administration then sends in the U.S. Air Force (both fighter-bombers and Predator drones) in close support of the beleaguered Kurdish forces. Doing what air power seems most capable of, the planes begin destroying the armored vehicles and artillery pieces ISIS has brought to bear in Kurdish areas. In other words, U.S. air power is called in to take out U.S. military equipment (and anyone manning it).

To complete the circle, both the Iraqis defending Baghdad and the Kurds now desperately need new weaponry, and Washington is already starting to supply it in the north and soon undoubtedly in the south as well. Can there be any question that this is a win-win situation for the American arms industry and the military-industrial complex? It gives new meaning to American bombing campaigns that, since 1991, have proven to be disastrous regional destabilizers. Think of this as an innovative profit center for American industry and a jobs-creation exercise of the first order: we provide the weapons, we destroy them, then we provide more''. but its a;so double bubble for the US because they ask Iraq to also pay for the weapons.

Washington has also put at least $50 billion in weaponry and training into Afghanistans security forces. So the future is bright.

Fantastic post. I've been telling my friends this since last year but you constructed it beautifully

[dave30 728]

There was a labour councillor on R5 this morning, and he said every time someone at commitee meetings brought up the question of Asians grooming children, which was widespread knowledge, they were booed and hissed.

Apparently the Asian vote was wotrth 25 % to Labour in Rotheram and Bradford West.

Also said the cops regarded the girls as slags or 'wog meat'. These were children FFS

Terrible stomach churning stuff but I just know, nobody will be held accountable. Labour will return their mp and have a new crime commissioner elected if Shaun Wright resigns. No police or Councillors will be punished.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Terrible stomach churning stuff but I just know, nobody will be held accountable. Labour will return their mp and have a new crime commissioner elected if Shaun Wright resigns. No police or Councillors will be punished.

Sadly youre probably right. Its like this Elm Guest house child abuse, no lets call it child rape, because thats what it is. At Elm Guest house you had MPs, judges, MI5 agents, Top police officers, Pop stars, and....the head of Children Social Services attending where young boys were buggered. No wonder its easy for them to cover it up.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

Hi Everyone I am just wanting to make a suggestion and nothing more. I just wanted to see if what response I would get.

I want to know if I move this those here who like posting here and actually having a open and intense and really truthful discussion and being open and talking about politics and all those things that are involved in that genre.

I want or need those who want to or need a place we can talk about this topic thread in a way more open and intense discussion and move the talks to my page thread on my wordpress blog there and have a discussion in the comments section below the page.

There will be no tight restrictions or many limitations to how or what is talked about or posted about and like there is here on forum.talkchelsea because this is a sports forum with restrictions.

The-Global-International-Worldwide-Governments-and-Politics-Page

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Sadly youre probably right. Its like this Elm Guest house child abuse, no lets call it child rape, because thats what it is. At Elm Guest house you had MPs, judges, MI5 agents, Top police officers, Pop stars, and....the head of Children Social Services attending where young boys were buggered. No wonder its easy for them to cover it up.

Clearly these are two separate issues we have in this country when it comes to the issue of child rape.

Up in Bradford a few years back, I met Muslim pimps, some wearing mini Koran pendants on heavy, gold chains. "Not our girls," they reassured me, "just them white girls from the estates, cheap girls. They love it man, all the money they make! What else will they do with their lives? We're helping them make a career."

Much laughter, until I asked them what they would do if a white pimp groomed their daughters. They would kill the pimp and the girls too, they said. They would too."

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Clearly these are two separate issues we have in this country when it comes to the issue of child rape.

Up in Bradford a few years back, I met Muslim pimps, some wearing mini Koran pendants on heavy, gold chains. "Not our girls," they reassured me, "just them white girls from the estates, cheap girls. They love it man, all the money they make! What else will they do with their lives? We're helping them make a career."

Much laughter, until I asked them what they would do if a white pimp groomed their daughters. They would kill the pimp and the girls too, they said. They would too."

True, not sure what is worse. Was that your own experience in Bradford, or is it quoted from somewhere ?

As far as the establishment figures raping children, we were supposed to have a replacement to Butler-Schloss heading an inquiry,"within days" according to the Home Secretary. That was over a month ago.

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True, not sure what is worse. Was that your own experience in Bradford, or is it quoted from somewhere ?

That's from The Guardian I believe.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

That's from The Guardian I believe.

Found it, some independent columnist Yasmin Alijai-Brown.

The arrogance of the South Yorkshire Police Commissioner Shaun Wright, in hanging on to his job is breathtaking. Theres enough negligence of duty to refer him to the CPS.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Fuck me, they just showed a load of ISIS fighters on sky. One, complete with Kalashnikov wearing a Chelsea shirt.

Couldnt see if there was a name on the back, if there was, bet it was Torres

[dave30 728]

Fuck me, they just showed a load of ISIS fighters on sky. One, complete with Kalashnikov wearing a Chelsea shirt.

Couldnt see if there was a name on the back, if there was, bet it was Torres

Brilliant hahahaha

[dave30 728]

GO ON CARSWELL SON. PEOPLES ARMY.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/28/closed-shop-deepy-elitist-britain

If you want a top job in Britain, you can more or less forget it unless you went to a posh school and Oxford or Cambridge universities

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Hahahahahahaha!

Today, police have been running around the central railstation in Copenhagen armed with submachine guns and kevlar vests, searching for what was described as a 'mysterious character'. A woman called the police, saying that she had observed strange behaviour from a passenger on one of the trains. He carried a large bag, looked very nervous and was reading a book of globalisation and the war against terror. When they both left the train a device fell out of his bag, and he looked even more nervous than before.

It turned out to be an English student, who was about to attend an exam, where he needed to bring his own printing device, and he was only nervous because of the exam and because he thought his printer had been damaged. LOL.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

TODAY is Friday 29 August 2014

http://www.historyorb.com/events/date/1756/august

ON THIS DAY - 29 AUGUST 1756

Historical Events for August 1756

29th - England & France meet in war
29th - Prussian Libya occupies Saxson: beginning 7 years War

http://www.historyorb.com/events/date/1756

Historical Events for Year 1756

Jan 16th - England & Prussia sign Treaty of Westminster
Mar 17th - St Patrick's Day 1st celebrated in NYC at Crown & Thistle Tavern
Apr 14th - Gov Glen of SC protests against 900 Acadia indians
May 1st - France & Austria sign alliance
May 17th - Britain declares war on France (7 Years' or French & Indian War)
May 18th - England declares war on France
Jun 4th - Quakers leave assembly of Pennsylvania
Jun 20th - 146 Brit soldiers imprisoned in India-Black Hole of Calcutta-most die
Jun 20th - Siraj ud-Daulah Nawab of Bengal takes Calcutta from the British
Jun 27th - French fleet conquer St Philips Castle of Minorca
Jul 30th - Bartolomeo Rastrelli presents the newly-built Catherine Palace to Empress Elizabeth and her courtiers.
Aug 14th - French capture Fort Oswego, NY
Aug 29th - England & France meet in war
Aug 29th - Prussian Libya occupies Saxson: beginning 7 years War
Sep 8th - French and Indian War: Kittanning Expedition.
Sep 22nd - Nassau Hall opens at Princeton University
Oct 15th - Saxon army surrenders to Prussia
Dec 6th - British troops under Robert Clive occupy Fulta India
Dec 31st - Russia joins the Alliance of Versailles

On This Day on August 29th

http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=460104

1756- THE SEVEN YEARS WAR began. This could arguably be called the true first World War. Britain, France, Prussia and Russia, Austria, Poland, Sweden and Turkey fought each other all over the globe. Armies battled from Prague to Pennsylvania, Belgium to Gibraltar, to Madras, Quebec and Sri Lanka. In America it is called The French & Indian War. If you are a film buff consider this: Barry Lyndon and the Last of the Mohicans are happening at the same time as part of the same war.

1776- The Battle of Long Island ended. George Washington's army was badly beaten in battle by the British, and pinned against the East River. All night the fishermen of Marblehead Massachusetts ferried the remainder of his troops across to Manhattan while the British Navy sat strangely inactive around Staten Island. If the warships had moved up to block the retreat, the Revolution would be over. Even the weather helped with a thick fog that shrouded all activity until 8:00AM in the morning.

A Brooklyn Loyalist named Mrs. Rapalie sent her slave to warn the British that the rebels were getting away. The man was stopped by some German Hessians who couldn’t understand anything he said in his thick Brooklyn-Colonial accent. So they arrested him as a spy.

1897- The FIRST WORLD ZIONIST CONGRESS opened in Basel, Switzerland. Jews from all around the world met to agree on a strategy of returning to Palestine to build a Jewish homeland and getting a major world power to sanction their efforts. They also agreed to adopt the revived Hebrew language as the common mother tongue. Russian Socialist Theodore Herzel, called the Father of Zionism , at one point almost split the movement with a scheme for all Jews to move to Uganda,. There was also another group who wanted Argentina to be the Jewish Homeland, but Palestine finally won out over all.

1929- New York City was having competitions between builders for who could build the tallest office building. The Chrysler Building had recently surpassed the Bank of Manhattan Building. On this day William Ratzengauer and former Presidential candidate Al Smith announced they would build a monster building, much higher than any other. It would be on the site of the old Waldorf Astoria Hotel and they would call it the Empire State Building.

1949- Soviet Russia detonated it's first atomic bomb "First Lightning". The scientists won medals, automobiles and dachas. They knew that if it had not worked they all would have been shot. Yet Stalin made no public announcement until he could fill his larder with nukes. A CIA sniffer plane picked up the evidence of the bomb and dubbed it "Joe-1" after Joe Stalin. It was announced on Sept 23rd. The U.S. reacted to this news and the news of Mao's taking over China with shock. It fueled the great Red-scare of the 1950's.

2005- HURRICANE KATRINA destroyed the cities of New Orleans, Gulfport Louisiana, and Biloxi, Mississippi. Tidal surges up to 30 feet collapsed levees, sending walls of water across the Big Easy. Thousands died, 800,000 homeless and billions of dollars in damage. The tragedy proved that for all the fuss about government preparedness after 9-11, America was still woefully confused in a real crisis.

While people drowned in their attics and critical care patients were left on the sidewalks to die, the government fumbled for almost a week. Long lines of relief trucks and ambulances were kept waiting outside the city with no permission to move in.

Meanwhile President Bush played air guitar at a Navy base in San Diego and compared himself to Franklin Roosevelt, then partied with John McCain on a golf course for his birthday. Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff attended a Bird Flu seminar and FEMA head David Brown was sending e-mails to friends like “Did you see me on camera with my new tie? -Fabulous!”

2008- CARIBOU BARBIE- Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain surprised the political world when he named Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as his choice for running mate. It is still argued today whether this unconventional choice was good or bad. She energized the far right wing base of her party, but her obvious unpreparedness for high office offended Republican intelligentsia and scared off their few remaining independent voters.

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Clearly these are two separate issues we have in this country when it comes to the issue of child rape.

Up in Bradford a few years back, I met Muslim pimps, some wearing mini Koran pendants on heavy, gold chains. "Not our girls," they reassured me, "just them white girls from the estates, cheap girls. They love it man, all the money they make! What else will they do with their lives? We're helping them make a career."

Much laughter, until I asked them what they would do if a white pimp groomed their daughters. They would kill the pimp and the girls too, they said. They would too."

That makes me physically sick to my stomach. It sounds just like that Oxford Grooming gang a while back. Had me in tears thinking the very same people who welcomed them in their communities, were in turn having their daughters turned into whores by groups who think the children of those people are less than simply by virtue of being old English girls in English cities. Sickening, and it is happening in every city.

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George Galloway assaulted in London?

http://news.sky.com/story/1327097/george-galloways-jaw-broken-in-street-attack

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28992601

I don't particularly like the guy, but that is beyond disgraceful. Just imagine for a second the outrage if it was a conservative right-wing MP who was assaulted by a Muslim lunatic and not a left-wing MP who was assaulted by a conservative lunatic.