Strike 7,489 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Oh you mean that game where Bale came straight back after injury?, yeah, he got injured 4 times that season and everytime he came back he was shit, it took him a while to settle, where as for this season hes been injury free.fair point. but bosingwa is hardly better. we can't rotate Rb without takin a risk. sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Oh you mean that game where Bale came straight back after injury?, yeah, he got injured 4 times that season and everytime he came back he was shit, it took him a while to settle, where as for this season hes been injury free.I remember when Spurs where being offered like 40 mill for Bale...This is why I say any player is sellable at insane high prices. If someone comes an offer that for someone like Sturridge we must take it.Those figures are once in a lifetime like Liverpool learn with the Torres saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 fair point. but bosingwa is hardly better. we can't rotate Rb without takin a risk. sheeshI don't know, i would put ferriera on against a lesser side perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I remember when Spurs where being offered like 40 mill for Bale...This is why I say any player is sellable at insane high prices. If someone comes an offer that for someone like Sturridge we must take it.Those figures are once in a lifetime like Liverpool learn with the Torres saga.Indeed, if we get offered that much for him then i would definitely sell him. Because known our fuckin luck if we turn it down he would end up getting a season injury lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 The FA's ignored our request to move the FA Cup game to Friday. Typical, absolutely typical.http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7654171/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 We're not gonna outplay Barca obviously. We need to be Strong and Physical, just like in 2009, we have to bully them and overpower them, obviously this side is nowhere near as good as the one in 2009 but this is the only way we're gonna have any chance. This may sound insane but we need to Get at them and almost attack. If we just sit back and defend for most of the games we will inevitably lose, we dont have the Talent to be lethal on the counter, plus most teams who have tried to sit back and defend against Barca have lost. What we need to do is crowd their midfield and play the game in their half for as long as possible. Their defense is their weakness in many ways.We would need to lineup very Strong--------Mata----------Drogba-------------Ramires------------Lampard-----------------Essien-----------------------------------------Mikel---------------------------------Cole-------Terry----------Cahill----------IvanovicThe midfield will be very robust and Physical with this lineup. Lampard and Essien would be very deep though and we would in essence have 3 DM's, Drogba needs to be at his best, Mata needs to be there to create our attacks, Ramires and Mata would come inside alot, (Almost playing as LM and RM instead of RW and LW) essientially we would have little to no width but that's a necessity in order to crowd their midfield. Ramires instead of Danny because of his work rate and he could attack Puyol at LB, Drogba needs to tear Pique and Macherano a new A-hole and just use his strength. We'd be playing alot of long balls which will be effective against Barca because we are stronger in the air than them.All in all we will have to play ugly, Brutish and direct in order to even begin to challenge Barca. Give them no room and they will crack, but the thing is do we have the Talent and workrate to do that? Perhaps Madrid is the only one that does.....:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 The FA's ignored our request to move the FA Cup game to Friday. Typical, absolutely typical.http://www1.skysport..._medium=twitterMoney Talks. there are talks in Spain that the federation will move the El Classico from sunday to Saturday to give their team enough time to recover ahead of the second leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 We're not gonna outplay Barca obviously. We need to be Strong and Physical, just like in 2009, we have to bully them and overpower them, obviously this side is nowhere near as good as the one in 2009 but this is the only way we're gonna have any chance.This may sound insane but we need to Get at them and almost attack. If we just sit back and defend for most of the games we will inevitably lose, we dont have the Talent to be lethal on the counter, plus most teams who have tried to sit back and defend against Barca have lost. What we need to crowd their midfield and play the game in their half for as long as possible. Their defense is their weakness in many ways.We would need to lineup very Strong--------Mata--------------Drogba-------------Ramires-----------------Lampard-----------------Essien----------------------------------------------Mikel---------------------------------Cole-------------Terry----------Cahill----------IvanovicLampard and Essien would be very deep though and we would in essence have 3 DM's, Drogba needs to be at his best, Mata needs to be there to create our attacks, Ramires and Mata would come inside alot, essientially we would have little to no width but that's a necessity in order to crowd their midfield. Ramires instead of Danny because of hos work rate and he could attack Puyol at LB, Drogba needs to tear Pique and Macherano a new A-hole and just use his strength. We'd be playing alot of long balls which will be effective against Barca because we are stronger in the air than them.All in all we will have to play ugly, Brutish and direct in order to even begin to challenge BarcaI like the whole team but I am not sure about Mikel. He is too slow.If we are going to play 2 DM with Essien, then you can do no wrong in trying to use someone like Meireles in that role.But we will see. I would at least like to see RDM try the formation for one game before using that.Maybe against Fulham....ORPlay David Luiz that game as DM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 We're not gonna outplay Barca obviously. We need to be Strong and Physical, just like in 2009, we have to bully them and overpower them, obviously this side is nowhere near as good as the one in 2009 but this is the only way we're gonna have any chance.This may sound insane but we need to Get at them and almost attack. If we just sit back and defend for most of the games we will inevitably lose, we dont have the Talent to be lethal on the counter, plus most teams who have tried to sit back and defend against Barca have lost. What we need to crowd their midfield and play the game in their half for as long as possible. Their defense is their weakness in many ways.We would need to lineup very Strong--------Mata--------------Drogba-------------Ramires-----------------Lampard-----------------Essien----------------------------------------------Mikel---------------------------------Cole-------------Terry----------Cahill----------IvanovicLampard and Essien would be very deep though and we would in essence have 3 DM's, Drogba needs to be at his best, Mata needs to be there to create our attacks, Ramires and Mata would come inside alot, essientially we would have little to no width but that's a necessity in order to crowd their midfield. Ramires instead of Danny because of hos work rate and he could attack Puyol at LB, Drogba needs to tear Pique and Macherano a new A-hole and just use his strength. We'd be playing alot of long balls which will be effective against Barca because we are stronger in the air than them.All in all we will have to play ugly, Brutish and direct in order to even begin to challenge Barca3 DM? That would mean playing in our half. They will tiki taka in our half all game if we play with 3 defensive mids. We have to play 4-2-3-1. Play deep, win the ball and lump it to Ramirez on the wing and let him make the run and pass it inside to Drogba, Mata, Lampard and Kalou. Also, they play high line, which makes them susceptible to counter attacks from players like Ramirez and Drogba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 3 DM? That would mean playing in our half. They will tiki taka in our half all game if we play with 3 defensive mids. We have to play 4-2-3-1. Play deep, win the ball and lump it to Ramirez on the wing and let him make the run and pass it inside to Drogba, Mata, Lampard and Kalou. Also, they play high line, which makes them susceptible to counter attacks from players like Ramirez and Drogba.Only 2 midfielders? That's suicide. Madrid can do it but we definitley cannot. 4-3-3 is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 3 DM? That would mean playing in our half. They will tiki taka in our half all game if we play with 3 defensive mids. We have to play 4-2-3-1. Play deep, win the ball and lump it to Ramirez on the wing and let him make the run and pass it inside to Drogba, Mata, Lampard and Kalou. Also, they play high line, which makes them susceptible to counter attacks from players like Ramirez and Drogba.Yeah agree cause with Mikel and Essien is too negative. That is too defensive mind like when Hiddink did in the first game against Barcelona at the Camp Nou.Although like I stated above I would not mind using David Luiz as one of the DM for that game a long with Essien. I don't think that will be too negative.If there is one time that David Luiz can be use as DM is in this game. As the Cahill - Terry partnership is very good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I like the whole team but I am not sure about Mikel. He is too slow.If we are going to play 2 DM with Essien, then you can do no wrong in trying to use someone like Meireles in that role.But we will see. I would at least like to see RDM try the formation for one game before using that.Maybe against Fulham....ORPlay David Luiz that game as DM! Mikel is pretty good at slowing down the game and taking the sting out of the game, He'd be the best option there. Meireles is also too wasteful with his passing and that is something we simply CANNOT afford on a night where we will probably only have 35% possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Only 2 midfielders? That's suicide. Madrid can do it but we definitley cannot. 4-3-3 is the way to goIts 2 Holding midfielders and one attacking., In 4-3-3 you play 2 attacking and 1 holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Yeah agree cause with Mikel and Essien is too negative. That is too defensive mind like when Hiddink did in the first game against Barcelona at the Camp Nou.Although like I stated above I would not mind using David Luiz as one of the DM for that game a long with Essien. I don't think that will be too negative.If there is one time that David Luiz can be use as DM is in this game. As the Cahill - Terry partnership is very good as well.How is it Too negative, seriously some people on here think they're playing FIFA...Be realistic we need three strong, physical DM's to have any chance of stopping them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 How is it Too negative, seriously some people on here think they're playing FIFA...Be realistic we need three strong, physical DM's to have any chance of stopping them.That IS way to positive....we shouldnt be so gung ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 How is it Too negative, seriously some people on here think they're playing FIFA...Be realistic we need three strong, physical DM's to have any chance of stopping them.I don't agree, but as stated if you want to go down the road of 3 DM's then make sure one of them is creative like David Luiz, to change up the game.As Barcelona play the high line, so we need someone to make killer passes, and that ain't Mikel!Meireles and David Luiz can make more forward passing to set up a good counter attack, then all the sideways passing Mikel does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I don't agree, but as stated if you want to go down the road of 3 DM's then make sure one of them is creative like David Luiz, to change up the game.As Barcelona play the high line, so we need someone to make killer passes, and that ain't Mikel!Meireles and David Luiz can make more forward passing to set up a good counter attack, then all the sideways passing Mikel does!Again, be realistic, why on earth would RDM just start playing Luiz as a DM in a massive game against one of the best sides ever. Meireles I guess I can live with but Mikel is a better Tackler as well and can keep possession better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Again, be realistic, why on earth would RDM just start playing Luiz as a DM in a massive game against one of the best sides ever. Meireles I guess I can live with but Mikel is a better Tackler as well and can keep possession betterBecause you want to play 3 DM's!Lampard and Essien can easily do the job. If you want to add Mikel in that slot, then go for David Luiz or Meireles which can give you better option for counter attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Because you want to play 3 DM's!Lampard and Essien can easily do the job. If you want to add Mikel in that slot, then go for David Luiz or Meireles which can give you better option for counter attack.You do realise this is not the same Lampard and Essien, right? Lampard's age means he can't run around forever and close players down as well as before. Essien's injury has also had a similar effect on him, he doesnt have the same Bison power to bully Barca's midfield. So logically they would need extra help from a player like Mikel, meireles doesnt do as much defensively and we have to make sure we are solid and dont concede before thinking about Attacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I still think it's a waste having a line of Lampard, Mikel, Essien.Yes we need to defend but we need to attack as well.And with that line we might as well park the bus in our own home!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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