Unionjack 7,531 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, BlueLyon said: If he develops well, he is going to be some player. We have been saying this about him since the 1st day he made it into the 1st team tho! He is now 22. Not old but how much longer are we going to have to wait? I must admit Ive never taken to him. Always thought he looked lanky and gangley. He reminds me of Bambi on ice. But I thought OK. Give the lad his chance. See how the loan works out. It should do him good. But hes only stepped up once or twice this season from all Ive seen. He was a disappointment IMO against Vidi. It was the perfect chance for him (and Barkley) to stand up and make a mark. But watching the Wolves game today I think him and Cescy were the only two trying. I'm afraid the main reason I'd keep him is for his HG tag. But yes at a push why not stick him as a CF to try hm out. I had such high hopes for all 3. Kova,RLC,Barkley and still so want them each to be excellent (it would save is alot of grief,time & money). But I would bring in a new ACM as one of the 5 spots I'd like to upgrade. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Unionjack said: We have been saying this about him since the 1st day he made it into the 1st team tho! He is now 22. Not old but how much longer are we going to have to wait? I must admit Ive never taken to him. Always thought he looked lanky and gangley. He reminds me of Bambi on ice. But I thought OK. Give the lad his chance. See how the loan works out. It should do him good. But hes only stepped up once or twice this season from all Ive seen. He was a disappointment IMO against Vidi. It was the perfect chance for him (and Barkley) to stand up and make a mark. But watching the Wolves game today I think him and Cescy were the only two trying. I'm afraid the main reason I'd keep him is for his HG tag. But yes at a push why not stick him as a CF to try hm out. I had such high hopes for all 3. Kova,RLC,Barkley and still so want them each to be excellent (it would save is alot of grief,time & money). But I would bring in a new ACM as one of the 5 spots I'd like to upgrade. IMO he has done all the right steps forward. Last year at Palace, he was great. Enough to warrant him place with England, so far he made some positive impressions in given chances. At Chelsea, he again improved over last few months, his workrate has improved and he finaly looks like he gives a shit when playing, that was one thing I hated about him. Talent was always there and now he is going up with his mentality. We all scream for youth to be given chances, but as soon they get couple games (if that), they get criticised into oblivion. Its a process that might take couple years with some players. Some explode at 18 like Messi, Mbappe, Fabregas,...some are late bloomers. We should give RLC two seasons at chelsea with enough matches and then see what will happen. I always though we dont trust youth enough. For example, Kovacic came here and instantly became starter. Due to good form of RLC and Barkley, spot is open. But who knows if how would RLC play if he was given week in week out matches? Including big games? He might suck in some, but so did Kovacic, Jorginho, Kante or any other midfielder. Thing is his ceiling is high and he has room to improve. I dont get excited and hype players generaly, but I have big hopes for RLC. If he wont have playtime here, he will eventualy play for other big team. Dazzy_Vance and Vybzkartel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 We need to tie him down to a new long term contract. He is the real deal. Vesper and Vybz Kartel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 "He is so tall, and handsome as hell; He is so bad but he does it so well!" - T.S. He is making me more confident about (what will happen in case of) losing Hazard. EDIT: Also, I hope some are not mad about him playing on the wing. Maybe that really IS his best position, who knows? I mean, guy is struggling to find his place in team for years, playing all kind of midfield positions. I have a feeling he was never actually tried on the wing because of his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,704 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 11 hours ago, El P. said: "He is so tall, and handsome as hell; He is so bad but he does it so well!" - T.S. He is making me more confident about (what will happen in case of) losing Hazard. EDIT: Also, I hope some are not mad about him playing on the wing. Maybe that really IS his best position, who knows? I mean, guy is struggling to find his place in team for years, playing all kind of midfield positions. I have a feeling he was never actually tried on the wing because of his size. Would still prefer him at CF. Big enough to hold it up, and has twinkle toes enough to get out of trouble when needed. Rocket of a shot on him too, plus the right amount of pace if he gets in behind. Honestly think it would be perfect for him. Especially given his physical attributes, we can play a variety of ways with him. Go long or play it into him, or use him to work the ball through. He is quite good at everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 why wasn't he even on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, lucio said: why wasn't he even on the bench? Had a knock in training apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Should be ahead of Barkley in contention for a midfield role. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Barkley last night did my fucking loaf in...every single time, passing it backwards and don't get me started on his lack of awareness. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Barkley last night did my fucking loaf in...every single time, passing it backwards and don't get me started on his lack of awareness. Problem is tho its not only Barkley I understand why all the sideways,backward passing goes on even if I dont like it but even when they do develop the space between the channels they dont seem to be able to take it to the next level, They have an amazing 2nd half v Shitty )IMO anyway) but then they suffer complete total fuckin mind block and forget how they did it! That goes for Eden too. They just cant keep their form. Apart from Luiz and it seems he is the one who is getting better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Strike said: Should be ahead of Barkley in contention for a midfield role. I think he is, Sarri said RLC is still not 100% and is still pushing through back problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Probably will be used as a winger, even though he is our best no. 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Probably will be used as a winger, even though he is our best no. 8. Think he's best as a winger for now, his arrival on the pitch against Bournemouth and Leicester coincided both times with us losing control in the middle, he's still got a lot to learn in that area. robsblubot and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, Tomo said: Think he's best as a winger for now, his arrival on the pitch against Bournemouth and Leicester coincided both times with us losing control in the middle, he's still got a lot to learn in that area. Agreed Ross is superior in the cm atm. Unless we really want to open up in which case RLC would provide those extra runs from the back. kinda ironic how we are now fine in the CM department. Great options for sarri there. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Robchels said: Agreed Ross is superior in the cm atm. Unless we really want to open up in which case RLC would provide those extra runs from the back. kinda ironic how we are now fine in the CM department. Great options for sarri there. Loads of options indeed, but with Cesc leaving we wont have Jorginho backup and overall neither of our midfielders can shoot or be very creative which could be a problem in the future. jernej93 and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Loads of options indeed, but with Cesc leaving we wont have Jorginho backup and overall neither of our midfielders can shoot or be very creative which could be a problem in the future. This! Kante, Kovacic and Jorginho seems like a great midfield for games like City but most of the time we would need someone more creative alongside Jorginho and Kante/Kovacic IMO. We need extra creative force versus deep defensive lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Tomo said: Think he's best as a winger for now, his arrival on the pitch against Bournemouth and Leicester coincided both times with us losing control in the middle, he's still got a lot to learn in that area. I still haven't seen enough to keep him but think we should still use him as striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Ruben to Chelsea TV after our nil all draw to Southampton " We need those clever movements in behind, even though they are deep. One of those diagonal balls over the top, like you see Barcelona do a lot." ( For those who haven't seen the interview ) "Teams are coming here and sitting back and it's difficult to break them down, because it's so tight " "We need to get on the training pitch and work on trying to get balls in behind and work on playing against a deep back four" "We need those clever movements in behind, even though they are deep. One of those diagonal balls over the top, like you see Barcelona do a lot." "We need to work on that. It's about having patience as well, because it's so frustrating at times. You can't get that space to open them up" "I think we need to get used to it, because we're playing well at times, so teams are going to come here and do that - and away as well" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, BlueLyon said: Loads of options indeed, but with Cesc leaving we wont have Jorginho backup and overall neither of our midfielders can shoot or be very creative which could be a problem in the future. That's the thing (goals) Ross and RLC can bring to the Cm trio. Nothing is for free, so we lose solidity to get more attacking minded players in CM. Kante has been doing that pretty well and he has the dynamism to make those runs and get into position to score. While I agree that the starting trio does not have many goals in them, I think Kovacic can potentailly play the Jorginho role well enough. He's got very similar characteristics and excellent short passing. Yes, he's more nimble and dynamic, but you never get the exact same player when rotating. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 RLC to solve Chelsea striker problems https://www.chelsea-news.co/2019/01/rlc-solve-chelsea-striker-problems/ Chelsea have a striker problem, and they need a solution. If they’re not going to buy someone – and it’s not clear if they will this January – they need alternatives. Maurizio Sarri has tried Eden Hazard up front, but injuries to our wingers has really taken that option off the table. We’ve been forced back into playing Alvaro Morata and Olivier Giroud, neither of whom are up to it. But there’s another option. Ruben Loftus Cheek has all of the physical characteristics and the goalscoring ability to lead the line for Sarri. He’s scored three times in the Premier League this season, despite starting just one game, and has impressed both on the wing and when played through the middle. It’s not an ideal solution, but if it stops us panic-buying another veteran like we bought Giroud last year, it might just be a smart call. This game against Nottingham Forest at the weekend looks like it could be the perfect chance. snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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