OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Hope he gets his new deal very soon. Having an exceptional Euros, interesting to see how Denmark do v England. I think there’s a surprise in it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 He still didn't prove himself in 4 at the back... Denmark also plays with 3 CBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: He still didn't prove himself in 4 at the back... Denmark also plays with 3 CBs. Well it is lucky 3atb is here to stay with us then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I'll judge him in a 4atb after he's played in it with Mendy behind him for a prolonged period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 20 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: He still didn't prove himself in 4 at the back... Denmark also plays with 3 CBs. What is this fixation with he has only proven himself in a 3 at the back and not 4 at the back? He has played in a back 4 with Denmark and Mochengladbach at times in the past and also at times with us under Sarri and Frank. He has also played as a holding midfielder for Denmark. And its not like he didn’t impress in place of Rudiger when he got injured under Sarri either. Which Sarri also did mention several times in the press/pre match games. Maybe not so much under Frank but even Thiago Silva had a few bad games as did Rudiger as did Zouma as did whoever else played CB because tactically we were all over the place at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: What is this fixation with he has only proven himself in a 3 at the back and not 4 at the back? He has played in a back 4 with Denmark and Mochengladbach at times in the past and also at times with us under Sarri and Frank. He has also played as a holding midfielder for Denmark. And its not like he didn’t impress in place of Rudiger when he got injured under Sarri either. Which Sarri also did mention several times in the press/pre match games. Maybe not so much under Frank but even Thiago Silva had a few bad games as did Rudiger as did Zouma as did whoever else played CB because tactically we were all over the place at times. I showed it was bollocks before with a massive post you can lead a horse to water, but................................... NT AC starts recently in a back 4, and one where he came into a back 4 OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) @OneMoSalah Playing and proving are 2 completely different things. Lets start from the beginning. Borussia conceded 50 goals in 34 Bundesliga games in his first season there and 49 in second. After that he came to Chelsea. First season was with Conte so 3atb. Second season with Sarri... He started just 6 PL games. 3 clean sheets in those. Huddersfield, Brighton and Watford. Plus he played regularly in EL but again opponents that are a joke mostly. For example against Liverpool it was 0:0 that season first half, Rudiger got injured and Chris replaced him and we lost 2:0. Not saying he is a fault ofc. Season after with Frank again just 3 PL clean sheets with him against Brighton, Burnley and Watford again. In CL also nothing, he played 4 games we conceded 10 goals. Last season he begun in starting 11. Brighton 1:3 win, 0:2 loss against Liverpool (thanks to him and that red), and two 3:3 draws against West Brom and Southampton. After that he was benched and best period under Lampard begun. After start of the season he only played in 1:1 draw with Villa. He was good in Sevilla tho. And now with Tuchel again 3atb. I am sure others also remember stat that we conceded only one goal under Lampard in season and half with Zouma-Rudiger pairing. When you put Chris with either it is a disaster. So when exactly did he proved himself in 4atb? In rare game against PL relegated team or against Hungarian or Greek side in EL? When we play against top teams with 4atb and Chris is part of that and we have great defense like now with Tuchel while keeping regularly clean sheets then you can say that he proved himself. Â Edited July 8, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Absolute warrior on the pitch, he is mentally on a another level nowdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Not being able to stay fit/healthy is what will hold him from being world class. Everytime he is starting to put some great performances he gets injured. I hope yestarday it was only fatigue and he won't miss start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Continuing his superb form. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 This 3 CB system suits AC and all our centrebacks - the spare CB kept coming out to harry attackers in possession. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) Commentators often forget he’s been with the club since early on as well, perhaps due to the amount of loans. Been great through the Euros, made a few errors yesterday but stepped out well otherwise. Edited August 15, 2021 by DH1988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 7 hours ago, DH1988 said: Commentators often forget he’s been with the club since early on as well, perhaps due to the amount of loans. Been great through the Euros, made a few errors yesterday but stepped out well otherwise. Christensen only had 2 loan spells and it was only at one club, TBF. When you said the commentators often forget he's been with the club since early on, do you mean coming through the academy? If so, then not sure if they really forget because we bought Christensen from Brondby and he was already 16 years old then. Different to the likes of Mount and James, who really came through our academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Is it just me or did he add more muscle mass to his frame?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Strike said: This 3 CB system suits AC and all our centrebacks - the spare CB kept coming out to harry attackers in possession. He was equally impressive at the Euros, while playing 2 man CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jase said: Christensen only had 2 loan spells and it was only at one club, TBF. When you said the commentators often forget he's been with the club since early on, do you mean coming through the academy? If so, then not sure if they really forget because we bought Christensen from Brondby and he was already 16 years old then. Different to the likes of Mount and James, who really came through our academy. No, not through the academy, but he's been brought 'up' by the club from a young age, something we had to constantly hear we did not do. I still consider it an achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 44 minutes ago, DH1988 said: No, not through the academy, but he's been brought 'up' by the club from a young age, something we had to constantly hear we did not do. I still consider it an achievement. He was promoted from the academy but he didn't come through it from an early age. There's a difference TBF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) He’s an academy graduate but not a youth product ala Mount, James, Chalobah, etc. Edited August 15, 2021 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 15/08/2021 at 15:29, Jase said: He was promoted from the academy but he didn't come through it from an early age. There's a difference TBF. Talk about nitpicking 😂 I mean firstly who cares, he’s still homegrown and still counts as an academy player… regardless of if he was here since age 8 or age 15. I mean we picked JT up from West Ham when he was 14 or 15 so does that mean there is also a difference for him? Or anyone else? DH1988, OReillyD36 and nachikethas 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 17/08/2021 at 12:48, OneMoSalah said: Talk about nitpicking 😂 I mean firstly who cares, he’s still homegrown and still counts as an academy player… regardless of if he was here since age 8 or age 15. I mean we picked JT up from West Ham when he was 14 or 15 so does that mean there is also a difference for him? Or anyone else? Essentially the above, didn’t claim it was an academy product etc but we brought him up and now he’s a good player. It just annoys me to no end that the commentator and media bias sometimes against us when it comes to bringing youth through.  in other news, solid from AC today. OneMoSalah and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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