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SUNZ 155 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Surprised to see nobody has posted in this thread after the game. Christensen is awful and very nearly cost us that game yesterday. Both he and Rudiger have to let go this summer and we need two new CBs. I really feel sorry for Zouma to have been playing with these two clowns all season and being made the scapegoat for a lot of their problems. Alabama, killer1257 and Henrique 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNZ 155 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 If looks could kill   killer1257 and Henrique 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 He unfortunately regressed so much since 2017/18.. I thought he would become a star for us. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 This guy was considered world class by people on Chelsea Reddit page years ago. He is not good enough. Period. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, SUNZ said: Surprised to see nobody has posted in this thread after the game. Christensen is awful and very nearly cost us that game yesterday. Both he and Rudiger have to let go this summer and we need two new CBs. I really feel sorry for Zouma to have been playing with these two clowns all season and being made the scapegoat for a lot of their problems. Yet its Zouma name that always pop up whenever people mention the CB to make way for any potential CB target... Christesen should be the first CB out... Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 As well as Zouma has done since he came back into the XI, don't understand why people are falling for the same trap again of over-praising our CBs again when they are all flawed (leaving Tomori out of this since he has been playing much and is out injured). The fact of the matter is Rudiger, Zouma and Christensen are all error prone defenders. Go through our games this season and they have looked good at some point and total disaster at another. For example, only the other day Christensen looked so good against Man City and he then dropped a clanger against West Ham one week later. They are all unreliable and it's almost become a case of choosing the right defenders and hoping it'll go well. manpe and Laylabelle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 As well as Zouma has done since he came back into the XI, don't understand why people are falling for the same trap again of over-praising our CBs again when they are all flawed (leaving Tomori out of this since he has been playing much and is out injured). The fact of the matter is Rudiger, Zouma and Christensen are all error prone defenders. Go through our games this season and they have looked good at some point and total disaster at another. For example, only the other day Christensen looked so good against Man City and he then dropped a clanger against West Ham one week later. They are all unreliable and it's almost become a case of choosing the right defenders and hoping it'll go well. Zouma is still the best defender. He wins 74% of his aerial duels and he wins more than that 60% of his tacklings. He is our best defender.He may not be the most technical one, but he still can defend. Also, what others CBs do we want? Rice who played 15 CB at West Ham for 70 mio and he is good enough as a CB? Romagnoli who looked bad against Juventus in a simple aerial duel ? This Torres guy from Villarreal looked bad against Barcelona too. I have asked a friend of mine that watches Serie A about his opinion on Milenkovic and he said he looked bad against Lazio. There is not one Maldini level defender out there. They all are going to make big mistakes at Chelsea. Question is how many mistakes will they do. AC and Rüdiger are not good enough. They showed zero skills to do so. Zouma has shown that he at least does know the basics. Rüdiger does not know the basics and I have been saying this since last season, where people thought he is world class and nobody believed me...Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNZ 155 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 There are women players that have more strength and character than this wet wipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Zouma is still the best defender. He wins 74% of his aerial duels and he wins more than that 60% of his tacklings. He is our best defender.He may not be the most technical one, but he still can defend. Also, what others CBs do we want? Rice who played 15 CB at West Ham for 70 mio and he is good enough as a CB? Romagnoli who looked bad against Juventus in a simple aerial duel ? This Torres guy from Villarreal looked bad against Barcelona too. I have asked a friend of mine that watches Serie A about his opinion on Milenkovic and he said he looked bad against Lazio. There is not one Maldini level defender out there. They all are going to make big mistakes at Chelsea. Question is how many mistakes will they do. AC and Rüdiger are not good enough. They showed zero skills to do so. Zouma has shown that he at least does know the basics. Rüdiger does not know the basics and I have been saying this since last season, where people thought he is world class and nobody believed me...Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit TapatalkIs milenkovic the fiorentina cb? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Is milenkovic the fiorentina cb? Sent from my SM-G973F using TapatalkYes he isGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 08/07/2020 at 10:29 AM, killer1257 said: Zouma is still the best defender. He wins 74% of his aerial duels and he wins more than that 60% of his tacklings. He is our best defender. He may not be the most technical one, but he still can defend. Also, what others CBs do we want? Rice who played 15 CB at West Ham for 70 mio and he is good enough as a CB? Romagnoli who looked bad against Juventus in a simple aerial duel ? This Torres guy from Villarreal looked bad against Barcelona too. I have asked a friend of mine that watches Serie A about his opinion on Milenkovic and he said he looked bad against Lazio. There is not one Maldini level defender out there. They all are going to make big mistakes at Chelsea. Question is how many mistakes will they do. AC and Rüdiger are not good enough. They showed zero skills to do so. Zouma has shown that he at least does know the basics. Rüdiger does not know the basics and I have been saying this since last season, where people thought he is world class and nobody believed me... Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk  Zouma is shit too NONE are good enough unless Rudiger somehow pulls his head out of his arse and goes back to his previous levels before he was injured Zouma is doom as a Chels starting CB he is horrific on the ball and makes far too many errors mentally and prepositionally only thing he is good at really is aerial duels, and the very occasional last ditch save and even then, we still are shite at defending free kicks and corners all six of our CB's (unless Rudiger goes right again) are shit I know people hate blanket statements but of the 13 defenders (4 fullbacks, 6 CB's (Guehi and Ampadu included) 3 GK's) the only one who is remotely acceptable atm is Azpi at RB (he is a fucking DISASTER at LB, Lampard you dolt!!!) and is hardly going to get better there and all thsoe near 5000 minute seasons are catching up with him  fucking raging here overall Lamapard is a piss poor defensive coach and it is probably going to get him sacked next season unless he brings in someone and FAST combine that with a bunch of shit defenders, well, you get the worst Chels defence in 25 years goal-wise  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I have just never ever seen the fuss or what this bloke is actually good at. It's not just him but the whole back line is utter dogs cock. Alabama and Azul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I'd keep Zouma and Tomori. Rudiger and Christensen are just awful Puliiszola, killer1257, Strike and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: I'd keep Zouma and Tomori. Rudiger and Christensen are just awful +1. I hope we can somehow pull off a miracle swap of jorginho + cash/Rudi for de ligt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kun Aguer0 36 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 11:10 PM, Puliiszola said: +1. I hope we can somehow pull off a miracle swap of jorginho + cash/Rudi for de ligt Not happening, primarily because of De Light's earnings in Juve. I think that he has more than 250k p/w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Kun Aguer0 said: Not happening, primarily because of De Light's earnings in Juve. I think that he has more than 250k p/w https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11765444/matthijs-de-ligt-signs-for-juventus-from-ajax-on-five-year-deal Around 200kpw. Well he is a generational talent and thats what they cost. If we want an upgrade for a decade and more, then thats the going rate. I hope we do try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Would love to have a Danish player being a Chelsea regular, especially a homegrown one, but Christensen is just not even close to good enough. He got all physical attributes, but his tendency to switch off completely is too costly. Bench player at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, calculatingInfinity said: Would love to have a Danish player being a Chelsea regular, especially a homegrown one, but Christensen is just not even close to good enough. He got all physical attributes, but his tendency to switch off completely is too costly. Bench player at best. I would be the same with Lindelöf, lolol Danish players who I rate (not saying all would be a good fit here, and putting im Eriksen) Thomas Delaney  (really rate him, so versatile, a fairly class player) Joachim Andersen (what is your opinion of him?) Robert Skov  (as a LWB) Jannik Vestergaard  (massive in height, basically 2m (1.995m)!, but unfortunately not so skilled technically) Pierre-Emile Höjbjerg  (very underrated IMHO, Spuds want him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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