Atholy 1,293 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 His manager's reaction on the loan to Southampton:"Southampton? Nonsense! There has been no contact with any other club than Chelsea. I just got a phone call from Chelsea and they expect Kevin to be present at the club on July the 4th. I hear a lot of rumours about possible transerfs. French press recently announced the interest of Lyon. But I can assure you that all this is nonsense. Certainly also the story about Southampton. When Chelsea decides to loan him out, only then we will sit together around the table to look for a decent team for Kevin. But I can tell you that at the moment, a loan is not at order!" CHOULO19 and Madmax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I'm pretty sure De Bruyne is going on loan to a PL side. I even remember reading that he said so.Ramires I really don't think he can play CM in the 4-2-3-1 especially along side Lamps. Frank, despite his excellent performances there, is not a DM, he cannot cover for Ramires' runs forward especially that he will be looking to make forward runs himself.ex-fukin-actly. i dotn want ramires in double pivot, or if he does then maybe with a more defensive player like mikel. or romeu or sombbody. i used to think 433 and 4231 were such a big difference but the more i see it and ramires is still in same spot and same space for mata would just play am in 433. 4231: lw-cam-rw rambo-dmin 433: lw -st- rw cam rambo---dm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fda1993 5 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Saw him play a lot of matches with Genk being a Belgian myself, living quite near to Genk that said. In Belgium though most of us don't hold very high opinions about the players active in the national league here - guys like Vermaelen, Hazard and Dembele for example spent most of their youth training elsewhere. Of course there are examples which beg to differ (Fellaini, Witsel, Defour - these three guys played together at one stage for Standard, imagine!), but somehow still sceptical... Of course I'd love to see KDB fulfill his potential, let's hope so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres_9 4 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 What positiion will this guy play for us when he does play? CM or on a wing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 frank will be the first choice for this season atleast. whether we like it or not. so i would prefer ramires over mikel alongside him because that way we get a different dimension to our attack and an extra option for mata to pick out while at the same time, he has the stamina and pace to recover.de bruyne should be incorporated into the first team this season and from 2013 or 14 he can become the first choice if he can prove his worth Ramires will be restricted if he takes on any sort of defensive role. His strengths are utilized on the counter-attack, and that can only happen if he plays further forward in midfield. TorontoChelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 What positiion will this guy play for us when he does play? CM or on a wing?Attacking mid or wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ramires will be restricted if he takes on any sort of defensive role. His strengths are utilized on the counter-attack, and that can only happen if he plays further forward in midfield.Not necessarily true in my opinion. With Meireles next to him, Ramires automatically has more defensive responsibility as Meireles isn't as good defensively. That shackles him indeed, but next to someone like Mikel, Ramires would have a lot more freedom. He'd still do his bit defensively, but he wouldn't have to worry as much, and therefore he'd be another option whilst we're attacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ramires will be restricted if he takes on any sort of defensive role. His strengths are utilized on the counter-attack, and that can only happen if he plays further forward in midfield.not necessarily true as the skipper pointed out. ramires can work the box to box role and having him is better than having mikel especially when we want to break down mid table teams. gives mata that extra option to pass to without compromising the defence because he has the pace and stamina to get back. that's the fuckin beauty abt ramiresi would even go as far as playing lampard-ramires or de bruyne-ramires because we have to impose ourselves onto midtable teams next season. mikel will be a de jong in our system. having him against wigan and west brom will be pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Not necessarily true in my opinion. With Meireles next to him, Ramires automatically has more defensive responsibility as Meireles isn't as good defensively. That shackles him indeed, but next to someone like Mikel, Ramires would have a lot more freedom. He'd still do his bit defensively, but he wouldn't have to worry as much, and therefore he'd be another option whilst we're attacking.not necessarily true as the skipper pointed out. ramires can work the box to box role and having him is better than having mikel especially when we want to break down mid table teams. gives mata that extra option to pass to without compromising the defence because he has the pace and stamina to get back. that's the fuckin beauty abt ramiresi would even go as far as playing lampard-ramires or de bruyne-ramires because we have to impose ourselves onto midtable teams next season. mikel will be a de jong in our system. having him against wigan and west brom will be pointlessI'm still not convinced though..The last time he played there he got rolled over by Napoli and couldn't contribute at all, but yes that was with Meireles next to him.And with regards to Strike's post, has De-bruyne ever played deep? I thought he was used as an attacking mid/winger.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 has De-bruyne ever played deep? I thought he was used as an attacking mid/winger....He has been recently turned into a CM. If he truly does have the passing ability and vision people on here are attributing to him, than I think he should be our Regista. We don't need to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 He has been recently turned into a CM. If he truly does have the passing ability and vision people on here are attributing to him, than I think he should be our Regista. We don't need to buy.Fair point..but I don't think KdB will be ready for a starting midfield role for another 3 seasons.We either loan him out this season so that he gets game time in a stronger league....or we keep him as backup in midfield and give him 10-15 starts/sub appearances this season. TorontoChelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 de bruyne has played deep. plus he has the passing ability to thread attacks from a deeper position. not sure about his strength and stamina but de bruyne is a good option to play in one of the mid positions if we switch to a 4-3-3. otherwise, he should be mata's back up for CAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 kdb should not play double pivot, he's not used to it. he needs and will only play in the '3' in 4231. we should hold on to kdb and use him as super sub. think about this: hazard mata hulk.so we have marin and kdb on the bench aswell. kdb WILL get games, and though not as many as say a loan spell enough to still benefit and he is around great players he can learn from. kdb can replace hazard and mata, and marin can replace hazard or hulk (either wing). that to mee can satisfy us whole season and lets say one player gets injured for 2months, ramires can fill the wing position! so simply laid out, hazard mata hulksubs:marin kdb (and ramires for injury)! studge and torres battle for cf spot and suddenly we look very formidable team, in attack. man u have 4 guys ashley young, nani, valencia, giggs. rotating wing positions. we have that too in hazard,marin, hulk and kdb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 kdb should not play double pivot, he's not used to it. he needs and will only play in the '3' in 4231. we should hold on to kdb and use him as super sub. think about this: hazard mata hulk.so we have marin and kdb on the bench aswell. kdb WILL get games, and though not as many as say a loan spell enough to still benefit and he is around great players he can learn from. kdb can replace hazard and mata, and marin can replace hazard or hulk (either wing). that to mee can satisfy us whole season and lets say one player gets injured for 2months, ramires can fill the wing position! so simply laid out, hazard mata hulksubs:marin kdb (and ramires for injury)! studge and torres battle for cf spot and suddenly we look very formidable team, in attack. man u have 4 guys ashley young, nani, valencia, giggs. rotating wing positions. we have that too in hazard,marin, hulk and kdbWe have Malouda as well and Sturridge can play on the wings if we're in a big injury crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I dont think KDB at this particular age will be contended with a sub's role.If we are looking for wingers, why not look for Adam Johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 kdb should not play double pivot, he's not used to it. he needs and will only play in the '3' in 4231. we should hold on to kdb and use him as super sub. think about this: hazard mata hulk.so we have marin and kdb on the bench aswell. kdb WILL get games, and though not as many as say a loan spell enough to still benefit and he is around great players he can learn from. kdb can replace hazard and mata, and marin can replace hazard or hulk (either wing). that to mee can satisfy us whole season and lets say one player gets injured for 2months, ramires can fill the wing position!so simply laid out,hazard mata hulksubs:marin kdb (and ramires for injury)!studge and torres battle for cf spot and suddenly we look very formidable team, in attack.man u have 4 guys ashley young, nani, valencia, giggs. rotating wing positions. we have that too in hazard,marin, hulk and kdbIn the midfield is his most comfortable position, thats where he played at youth level and only played on the wing due to the lack of options. When playing CM people were calling him the best player in the belgium league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 In the midfield is his most comfortable position, thats where he played at youth level and only played on the wing due to the lack of options. When playing CM people were calling him the best player in the belgium leagueKdB will probably serve as backup to Mata, Hazard at CAM & LW this season....that is, if we don't loan him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Do not loan him out please. He is quallity player and I would much rather see Mata being substituoned with Kevin than Malouda! DDA, KonohasOrangeFlash, chelsealukas23 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I think it would be silly to loan him out.He's only 20, yet already has 92 Belgian Pro League appearances.We can't just keep loaning out people because they're young. He's better than many people in our league twice his age. (Not literally twice. Do we even have any 40 year olds in the PL?)He can make an instant impact if given a chance. I'm certain......UNLESS - he goes to a Bundesliga (I believe they'd be best for further development) club on loan where he's guaranteed 25+ appearances with the club.I'd be happy with that. No other loan though.I believe that would be better than 15 appearances with us, even if he's surrounded by better players here. BlueSanti, Duppy Conqueror and Spike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 In the midfield is his most comfortable position, thats where he played at youth level and only played on the wing due to the lack of options. When playing CM people were calling him the best player in the belgium leaguehowever we're not playin 433, we're playin 4231 most likely and i dont want believe a double pivit role with defensive responsibilities is where he should play no? if its 433, replacing mata in cam, or lamps in b2b, ok i agree, but not in doubld pivot role, i just dont believe thats the right ppace for him to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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