🇧🇪 Kevin de Bruyne

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Well there's a problem, you think the English Premier League is so much better then the Bundesliga. If for one only see the English one spending more money, but that's it. Germany on the other hand has a much larger pool of quality home grown players to help that difference for one. Also there was only one good and consistent opponent in England last year and that was man utd. Bayern and Dortmund would have ended first and secon the BPL, Man utd would have battled Leverkussen for third. And do you rate teams as Arsenal or Tottenham so much higher than Shalke? I don't.

The Bundesliga has been and still is growing as competition, while I haven't seen the same in England. More amazing is how they are doing that in a financially sound way and within a financially sound economy. Germany is the future, well for a few years it will be.

Edit: Or you can rightly ignore me as my spelling and grammar shows that I obviously had enough to drink.

The gap between Bundesliga and EPL has never been wider. The quality of the Bundesliga is reflected by championship-level teams as Frankfurt and SC Freiburg competing for the CL places over the majority of the season and ending up in the EL. Also there is the everlasting outflux of the top players, with them joining a Spanish or English team or BAyern immediately after their break-through the constant production of quality homegrown players has yet beward the total downfall but it is only a question of time until we can't produce enough talents to make up for that loss.

the best 7 teams in the EPL are all better than anyone in the Bundesliga except BVB and Bayern. I highly doubt these two would even finish in the CL with their current squad. it is a whole lot of a difference playing 34 games and a maximum of 6 cup games with fuzzy refereeing and soft tackles or playing 38 games +Fa Cup +Carling Cup +European games +international games for almost every EPL player (whereas BuLI players are predominantly German and hence only a minority has international duty) against the Stokes, Westhams, Sunderlands etc.... In England the football is much faster and the technical level is way higher. When you are Bayern, most teams wave the white flag after 20 mins, In England every team, even manutd have to fight to the last whistle.

If referees were fair and the FA ditched those redundant carling cup matches and reduce the number of teams in the league, English teams would be way more succesfull in Europe, no one would have a chance. As of now, worn-out English teams with 2 games every weak face rested Spanish and German teams who have been prepared for the international challenge for weeks.

And as for the finances. There are maybe 4 or 5 clubs that are financially stable the rest is just as stricken as most EPL clubs just with waaaaay less turnover. As of now, rich German teams such as leverkusen, schalke, stuttgart compete with EPL-Newcomers and bottom-half clubs. for player. unless this changes, future of club football still lies far away from germany. The BuLi is not growing as a competition, mainly it is a competition because almost every club has no plan and is shit. The only club that is able to compete internationally, also long term is FC BAyern, the Free State of Bavaria will ensure that - one way or an other.

[Rmpr 8,977]

De bruyne is better than Oscar. De bruyne has the run the most meters in the bundes liga and has created the second most changes of all players. His speed, technique are on oscar's level. His vision is on matas and his crossballs are probably top 3 in the world. We might as well sell Hazard too when we are at it because they are on the same level.

We payed 30 million for Oscar but we would sell the bruyne, which is a better playe for 15. If this is true this is the worst decision our board has ever made. Including the signing of Torres.

First of all, we payed 25mi euros for Oscar...

Second of all, as good as KDB may be, he is definitely not better than Oscar!

Third of all, if we sell KDB for a reasonable price (15-20) and get priority on either Lewandowski, Gundogan or Subotic, it wont be the end of the world.

[themightyblue 443]

Saying KDB's game is better at this point in time than Oscar's is not overrating, it's how it is. Nearly everyone on this board was disappointed with Oscar's contribution for most of the season while KDB has performed consistently in the Bundesliga in a shitty side, gaining massive interest from some of the best German sides.

I don't understand what makes it so cringeworthy.

But you have to consider the sides they are playing in. As I said earlier, playing in a relegation threatened team KDB got a lot more space to create and work his magic than Oscar as he didn't have to face teams that would put 10 men behind the ball against him. It's also easier for De Bruyne to shine playing with the likes of Elia than it is for Oscar to shine in his first season in Europe playing with Mata, Hazard etc. There's also the fact that Oscar has been playing out of position for most of the season. Playing on the wing in a disciplined role where he had to track back etc was a new concept for him, whereas De Bruyne already had a season's experience playing on the wing. Then there's the factor of the pressure of playing for pressure which is on a whole other level to Bremen. The more you think about it, KDB's had much more favourable circumstances to Oscar this season and even then Oscar has looked just as good

[Stingray 9,441]

Just stop comparing .....ffs.

First Hazard compared with Oscar and now KDB?

There are simply too my differences: style, attributes, context, team, league, ..... The thread is getting a bit ridiculous imo.

[JDY 1,290]

Just stop comparing .....ffs.

First Hazard compared with Oscar and now KDB?

There are simply too my differences: style, attributes, context, team, league, ..... The thread is getting a bit ridiculous imo.

de Bruyne > Van Buyten

[Beepu 1,714]

Not gonna compare them, i love them all, Hazard, Oscar, KDB. I want you to give them a pat in the back when you see them, and a big wet kiss in the mouth... If you're a girl.

[communicate 2,703]

Can somebody tell what is this kid best position ?

I heard he is a good passer but cannot make any tackle (double pivot is a no no then)

Good crosser but not fast,not a winger then.

So is he another am ?

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

I don't get this he's not fast enough to be a winger. Yeah being fast is great but I don't see how you MUST be fast to play on the wing. He has great dribbling and can cross from any spot on the pitch so really he could just stand still the whole match and still put in better balls than Moses, Lennon, Walcott etc.

His best position is RW, then LW, then AMC, then CM (in a 4-3-3). And it's not much in there, it's almost a tie for all of those, he's just a good footballer with brains

[SykikJV 146]

Can somebody tell what is this kid best position ?

I heard he is a good passer but cannot make any tackle (double pivot is a no no then)

Good crosser but not fast,not a winger then.

So is he another am ?

He has no problem in playing CM, as long as there is a DM next to him. The tackling-comment is based on one stat on one website, not based on actual reviews of his games. Last week another, more reliable, stat came up in German press : De Bruyne ran the most miles of all the players in the Bundesliga this season. That's pretty impressive for a player of his kind.

So no, in my opinion, he won't have a problem in playing as a CM in the Premier League. In that position you could compare him to Modric at Tottenham, just give him a while to adapt to the PL, just like Modric needed some time to adapt.

His speed is more than decent enough to play as a winger. He doesn't need to have the acceleration of players like Bale/Valencia, because he has so much variation in his playing style on the wing. He can cross with both feet, cut inside and shoot, skills to go past defenders,... Just watch some video's of him at Bremen, there are several video's of him launching or finishing a counter-attack in which he uses his speed to run from defenders.

[SykikJV 146]

I don't get this he's not fast enough to be a winger. Yeah being fast is great but I don't see how you MUST be fast to play on the wing. He has great dribbling and can cross from any spot on the pitch so really he could just stand still the whole match and still put in better balls than Moses, Lennon, Walcott etc.

His best position is RW, then LW, then AMC, then CM (in a 4-3-3). And it's not much in there, it's almost a tie for all of those, he's just a good footballer with brains

You are right about the first part.

About his best position : In Genk he played mostly as a LW, but truly excelled in his last games as a CM. In Bremen he played mostly as a CM/AM together/next to Aaron Hunt in a center midfield of three players (one DM). The RW is the position he probably has played the least in the last few years.

You can use him in LW/AM/RW/CM-positions. Which position will be his best position, will depend on the other players in next years team.

[Miguelito 459]

This kid for me has the potential to be a Paul scholes type of player. He has the amazing vision, the ability to play perfectly placed long balls, and the intelligence. He also isn't the best at tackling, even tho it's prolly better than scholes.

I want him to play cm because I see too much potential for him in there and could be the best in the world there if molded right. With that being said, it does take away his amazing crossing ability if he played there though.

I believe instead of tackling he can fill in the passing lanes and be in the right spot defensively and cover his tackling abilities up. For me that is more important than tackling actually is

[termninja 5,290]

He has no problem in playing CM, as long as there is a DM next to him. The tackling-comment is based on one stat on one website, not based on actual reviews of his games. Last week another, more reliable, stat came up in German press : De Bruyne ran the most miles of all the players in the Bundesliga this season. That's pretty impressive for a player of his kind.

So no, in my opinion, he won't have a problem in playing as a CM in the Premier League. In that position you could compare him to Modric at Tottenham, just give him a while to adapt to the PL, just like Modric needed some time to adapt.

His speed is more than decent enough to play as a winger. He doesn't need to have the acceleration of players like Bale/Valencia, because he has so much variation in his playing style on the wing. He can cross with both feet, cut inside and shoot, skills to go past defenders,... Just watch some video's of him at Bremen, there are several video's of him launching or finishing a counter-attack in which he uses his speed to run from defenders.

Wait wait wait. Say that again?

De Bruyne ran the most miles of all the players in the Bundesliga this season

That true?

[Stingray 9,441]

Wait wait wait. Say that again?

De Bruyne ran the most miles of all the players in the Bundesliga this season

That true?

True I don't know, but it was in the press.

He has a huge radius though. Guy works his butt off.

Edit: You will notice soon enough Sh0n3x

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Maybe I haven't seen enough of him but I think he's a risky play at CM. He plays CM like you would play CM in FIFA. Every action is so aggressive with the intention of creating goal-scoring opportunity instantly. That would be amazing in a counter-attacking style but destructive in a possession based style. On the wings, he wouldn't have to worry too much about reigning in his aggressive instincts as much just because that position requires quick, direct actions.

What do you guys think? Can he calm down and play like Oscar when needed and just recycle possession and set the tempo? If not, do we really want to train him to decrease his aggressive attacking instincts to force him to play CM in EPL?

[Shaan 263]

De bruyne really reminds me of young david beckham with better dribbling ability..... also if de bruyne doesn't play for us next season it will be an epic fail by our board of epic proportions not using a talent like him properly.....

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[Stingray 9,441]

Maybe I haven't seen enough of him but I think he's a risky play at CM. He plays CM like you would play CM in FIFA. Every action is so aggressive with the intention of creating goal-scoring opportunity instantly. That would be amazing in a counter-attacking style but destructive in a possession based style. On the wings, he wouldn't have to worry too much about reigning in his aggressive instincts as much just because that position requires quick, direct actions.

What do you guys think? Can he calm down and play like Oscar when needed and just recycle possession and set the tempo? If not, do we really want to train him to decrease his aggressive attacking instincts to force him to play CM in EPL?

Yes he can actually. He does have an aggressive style when going forward but is just as easily a rest bringer. The NT has shown that to a huge extent. He WAS better than Hazard btw.

I think people worry too much and overanalyse like fuck :-). My two cents.

[Thomas Williams 166]

Everyone calls him slow, but he's a lot faster than most give him credit for. He has long legs so its more stride-like when he runs, but he can cover ground quickly and he is a surprisingly good dribbler. That and his crossing and shooting would make him much better on the wing than moses IMO and of course he could cover mata's CAM position if we play a 4-2-3-1. If we move to a 4-3-3, he would make an excellent RCM and with oscar on the left and a good true DM in the center. I think we'd have a formidable midfield.

Regardless, he could cover almost all our attacking midfield positions and be as close to as good or better.

[Stingray 9,441]

Regardless, he could cover almost all our attacking midfield positions and be as close to as good or better.

Exactly ... for this reason alone we should not doubt. All the rest is bullshit.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

I don't get this he's not fast enough to be a winger. Yeah being fast is great but I don't see how you MUST be fast to play on the wing. He has great dribbling and can cross from any spot on the pitch so really he could just stand still the whole match and still put in better balls than Moses, Lennon, Walcott etc.

His best position is RW, then LW, then AMC, then CM (in a 4-3-3). And it's not much in there, it's almost a tie for all of those, he's just a good footballer with brains

Spot on. It's not like Ryan Giggs torn us apart with his blistering pace for the past couple of years.

[SykikJV 146]

Wait wait wait. Say that again?

De Bruyne ran the most miles of all the players in the Bundesliga this season

That true?

It was in Belgian press of 25th of April, based on stats from Bild :

At that moment De Bruyne ran 356 kilometres this season, the most of all the players in Bundesliga. The second player was Gentner from Stuttgart with 355 kilometres.

On the 8th of May there was another article about his game against Hoffenheim : he scored and ran the most of all the players in that game : 12,25 kilometres.

It just shows how motivated he is to make it at the top-level. Whichever team gives a him a chance next year, I'm sure they won't regret it.