LukakutoStamford 779 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 How do other clubs come up with prices? How was Willian priced at £30m? How was Falcao priced at £50m? Silly question. Of course these players aren't actually worth these prices, it just the inflated market; we should ask for no different. We'll have a hard time of dealing will FFP if we continue to let quality players go for buttons.At the very least, KDB will go on loan until the World Cup and it's pretty safe to say that his price will rise afterwards. Therefore it is not inconceivable for his price to be in and around 25m by then. If Wolfsburg can't afford him now it's fine, I'm sure he'll have plenty of suitors in the summer. We may even keep him if Mata goes. We're not desperate to be rid of him, so why would we sell him for less now when we could get more later?Like anything else. Supply and demand and comparables.De Bruyne's value is based on his Bundesliga performance, Belgian NT performance, his age, and his lack of Chelsea performance. I think it's wrong to suggest that his value hasn't increased at least 2-2 1/2 fold since he was acquired by Chelsea from Genk. He was the top play maker for Werder Bremen and top offensive playmaker for the Belgian NT, and he showed a high level of play albeit inconsistent while at Chelsea.The problem is that a player's value decreases when no one can see him play save for brief cameos in games against championship sides every once in a bluemoon (no pun intended).Ultimately, I think Kevin doesn't fit into Jose's style and Kevin's playstyle doesn't meet Jose's needs. The problem with that is that Kevin does have certain skills that Chelsea sorely lacks in the form of crosses, set pieces, and directness of play but Jose doesn't feel that Kevin's defensive liability is worth his offensive contributions.It's a fair enough point but I can't really judge a player that has barely played since September and only gets one game once every 10 games.And before we get the Marin comparisions. Marin has never come close to contruting the the German NT like KDB and never had such an impact at the Bunedsliga level as KDB. I think Kevin can play at the Chelsea level, but it just hasn't clicked yet. Eggman, Azpinator and The Mak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Probably posted before but can't be bothered to lookhttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9104538/transfer-news-wolfsburg-wait-to-hear-from-chelsea-about-kevin-de-bruyne-bidWolfsburg are waiting to hear from Chelsea to see if their bid to land Kevin De Bruyne has been successful.The Bundesliga side appear in pole position to land the Belgium international midfielder ahead of a host of rival German clubs.De Bruyne seems set to leave Stamford Bridge during the January transfer window, but it appears talks over whether it will be a loan move or permanent switch are delaying matters.Wolfsburg sporting director Klaus Allofs said: "The ball is in Chelsea's camp now."De Bruyne's agents have reportedly flown to Abu Dhabi for talks with Wolfsburg, where the club is on a winter training camp.The player's agent Patrick De Koster is quoted by Kicker as saying his client is keen to move back to Germany."We hope something might happen soon," he said. "Kevin really wants to go to the Bundesliga."De Bruyne spent last season on loan at Werder Bremen, and was hugely impressive before returning to Chelsea this summer, but he has struggled to make an impact on the first-team under Jose Mourinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Kind of interested to see how KDB fits at Wolfburg.. Koo Ja Cheol was a significant player in their team, however, after his injury he isnt getting much game time......Also, doesnt Diego play as their CAM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Kind of interested to see how KDB fits at Wolfburg.. Koo Ja Cheol was a significant player in their team, however, after his injury he isnt getting much game time......Also, doesnt Diego play as their CAM? Diego indeed, and he stated yesterday he'd love to have Kevin join the team. I'm guessing they'll use him on the wing if they can manage the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Are people still defending this dude? He is not good enough nor had the mentality to take his opportunity like azpi did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Diego indeed, and he stated yesterday he'd love to have Kevin join the team. I'm guessing they'll use him on the wing if they can manage the price.I always thought Kevin was more likely to be on the wing for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Seriously, put this guy out of his misery, it's quite clear he won't be getting a proper sniff anytime soon.Sell or loan, it doesn't matter, he needs to play football. Blue Armour and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He lacks the pace to be a truly good winger. He has all the attributes to be very effective in the centre of the pitch. Stingray, The Skipper and Ainsley Harriott 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I remember some people saying he's just as good if not better than Hazard earlier in the season, i'm still skeptical of that, but it'll be interesting to see how where he goes next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I remember some people saying he's just as good if not better than Hazard earlier in the season, i'm still skeptical of that, but it'll be interesting to see how where he goes next. Thats the general opinion in belgium mainly because Hazard is rather quiet when he plays for the NT while Kdb made some important goals/ assists in the WC qualification campain and was the better player.You could say that Hazard is underrated while kdb is abit overrated in belgium in my opinion.But its quiet clear who's the better player of them Stingray, Barbara, bababoom and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I remember some people saying he's just as good if not better than Hazard earlier in the season, i'm still skeptical of that, but it'll be interesting to see how where he goes next. Hazard is obviously more talented. Kevin is not a dribbler, he doesn't have the genius of Eden. But as far as quality crosses and through balls go... If he's playing at his normal level, he's great. He has vista. It's really the only player in our national team who always directly passes the ball upfront. All the others have the tendency to keep the ball to themselves for too long or to slow the game down with a lateral ball. bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Good player with potential to become top 50 in the world, shame will probably never be one because of mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 any news about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Belgian media sayinh he has an agreement with Wolfsburg. Clubs still need to agree tough, offer of €15m rumoured.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Good player with potential to become top 50 in the world, shame will probably never be one because of mentality.He has questionable mentality. However, it may change very quickly if he gets to play regularly.Regular play, adds to his confidence & subsequently toughens his mentality. laura90 and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouletje 82 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Mata showed mentality and still isn't playing, not sure if mentality is the issue. Stingray and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Mata showed mentality and still isn't playing, not sure if mentality is the issue. Exactly, more play is key. 3-4 appearances is not for real in a whole semi season. Mata struggled while playing a LOT more, Ba sucks while playing a LOT more, Schurrle is living it right now in the no play low confidence zone. We lost this one, and it is unfortunately our fault. Context of needing to perform and get points didnt enable us to bring him. Period. Eggman and bouletje 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Breaking on the Mail his agent agrees terms with Wolfsburg for De Bruyne's transfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Breaking on the Mail his agent agrees terms with Wolfsburg for his transferSame story in the belgian papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Hope we fleeced them then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.