Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 wonder if Wolfsburg supporters are going nuts about him leaving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 -De Bruyne himself stated Mourinho barely talked to him in 6 monthsBtw why are we taking such statements as truths?Ridiculous to take such statements at fair value, that is like taking the words of your ex as truths after a bitter break up. I don't know KDB but I do know others, almost everyone tries to rationalize their own shortcomings or failures. So why would it be surprising for KDB to pin his failures at Chelsea on Mourinho? Same goes for Mourinho how do you think he is rationalizing things? Probably the same faulting KDB.This debate is not one sided as much as most want to make it. KDB is doing hot, and Mou is doing the polar oposite. So it is easy to say Mourinho fucked up, and give every benefit of the doubt to KDB. If their circumstances were reversed, I am sure almost everyone would be hailing Mou decision.Sure Mou had his fair share of fault in this situation but so did KDB, he didn't help himself With his performances in limited playing time and personality.Sure it would be nice to have KDB atm, but I really do not have the capacity to dwell on the what ifs and live In the past. stroey, Simon1991, Blue_Fox_ and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 IMO we have had very very bad luck with Kevin De Bruyne. We bet strongly in Oscar and we sold KDB and right now KDB is having a spectacular performance and Oscar seems like a joke / disaster / despair.I admit that seeing how KDB is playing we all have reason to be sad for having sold him but it is also true that Oscar two years ago seemed to be a better promise as a player for our future than KDB. And football is football, sometimes you lose, sometimes you win.But we should not be lamenting all the day for selling KDB and we should start thinking about signing players with similar characteristics in the market because there are players that could be interesting for us.Players like Koke, Isco, Ruben Neves, Andre Gomes, Thiago Alcantara, Gundogan, Bernardo Silva ... They might become interesting to our midfield and they may have similar characteristics to KDB. IMO we should bet heavily on Ruben Loftus-Cheek (I know RLC is different than KDB) as our franchise player. Ruben Loftus-Cheek may become a bigger player than KDB if we bet strongly onhim. Jose should be smart and not let it repeat what happened with KDB.And maybe we should rethink our strategy with Oscar because he is 24 and perhaps he should go on loan to a team like Juventus (Allegri wants him) because it could be good for his future and also for our future.KDB is good, but now is our opponent and we have to look forward and forget the past. lucio, stroey and Blue_Fox_ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Btw why are we taking such statements as truths?Ridiculous to take such statements at fair value, that is like taking the words of your ex as truths after a bitter break up. I don't know KDB but I do know others, almost everyone tries to rationalize their own shortcomings or failures. So why would it be surprising for KDB to pin his failures at Chelsea on Mourinho? Same goes for Mourinho how do you think he is rationalizing things? Probably the same faulting KDB.This debate is not one sided as much as most want to make it. KDB is doing hot, and Mou is doing the polar oposite. So it is easy to say Mourinho fucked up, and give every benefit of the doubt to KDB. If their circumstances were reversed, I am sure almost everyone would be hailing Mou decision.Sure Mou had his fair share of fault in this situation but so did KDB, he didn't help himself With his performances in limited playing time and personality.Sure it would be nice to have KDB atm, but I really do not have the capacity to dwell on the what ifs and live In the past.You can't know for sure, I'm just inclined to believe a player who I've been following since he burst onto the scene in Genk over the words of, quite frankly, a psychopath. 11Drogba, Reddish-Blue and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 IMO we have had very very bad luck with Kevin De Bruyne. We bet strongly in Oscar and we sold KDB and right now KDB is having a spectacular performance and Oscar seems like a joke / disaster / despair.I admit that seeing how KDB is playing we all have reason to be sad for having sold him but it is also true that Oscar two years ago seemed to be a better promise as a player for our future than KDB. And football is football, sometimes you lose, sometimes you win.But we should not be lamenting all the day for selling KDB and we should start thinking about signing players with similar characteristics in the market because there are players that could be interesting for us.Players like Koke, Isco, Ruben Neves, Andre Gomes, Thiago Alcantara, Gundogan, Bernardo Silva ... They might become interesting to our midfield and they may have similar characteristics to KDB. IMO we should bet heavily on Ruben Loftus-Cheek (I know RLC is different than KDB) as our franchise player. Ruben Loftus-Cheek may become a bigger player than KDB if we bet strongly onhim. Jose should be smart and not let it repeat what happened with KDB.And maybe we should rethink our strategy with Oscar because he is 24 and perhaps he should go on loan to a team like Juventus (Allegri wants him) because it could be good for his future and also for our future.KDB is good, but now is our opponent and we have to look forward and forget the past.lewis baker , might be able to match de bruynes passing , set pieces , and goals from midfield. I am interested to see these portugese players (neves and silva). supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 lewis baker , might be able to match de bruynes passing , set pieces , and goals from midfield. I am interested to see these portugese players (neves and silva).I agree with you. And I would love if he could have a great season with Vitesse and thus he could be back with us or on loan next season in the Premier League team (which is also an interesting option as is happening with Nathan Aké).According to Whoscored, Lewis Baker's rating is 7.5 in the 9 games he has played with Vitesse in Eredivisie with 3 goals and 1 assist.Hopefully he can continue his evolution and he can be part of our team in the next years.IMO Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Nathan Ake, Solanke, Lewis Baker and Izzy must be part of our future. BERNARDO SILVA | Goals, Skills, Assists | Monaco | 2014/2015 (HD) RUBEN NEVES | Porto | Goals, Skills, Assists | 2015/2016 (HD) lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Don't kill the messenger. LDN Blue, CurlyHairLikeLuiz and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 He isn't ginger ya daft bastard.You're a bastard. [emoji52] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Don't kill the messenger. https://twitter.com/hlninengeland/status/657185840725102592Jose Mourinho told Chelsea board not to sell Kevin De Bruynehttp://www.givemesport.com/651357-jose-mourinho-told-chelsea-board-not-to-sell-kevin-de-bruyne?autoplay=on Essien19, LDN Blue and MichaelDance 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Don't kill the messenger. Not an unknown fact it was De B that pushed for the move, but Jose is the most obvious figure to blame since most people here don't know who our board consists of (I don't either) Essien19 and MichaelDance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not an unknown fact it was De B that pushed for the move, but Jose is the most obvious figure to blame since most people here don't know who our board consists of (I don't either)http://www.chelseafc.com/the-club/about-chelsea-football-club/club-personnel.htmlYour preaching to the choir mate. I was with the Belgian Brigade hyping the life out of Kevin De Bryune. Here's some shameless self-promotion. lmao http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/12219-kevin-de-bruyne/page-98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Mourinho should've given a lot more game time to the kid. Simple. If he did, he'd still be around IMO. Reddish-Blue and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Mourinho should've given a lot more game time to the kid. Simple. If he did, he'd still be around IMO.Exactly. Mourinho should give his patience and priority to players who have high technical ability. Technical ability can never be improved upon after a certain age but mentality can be improved on technical players. Blue Colored Sky, zolayes and Blue-in-me-Veins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppos 20 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 My guess is that De Bruyne could not work under Mourinho's style of management - which I wouldn't be able to do either by the way, and that De Bruyne therefore rejected Chelsea... Our loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 well, our board which is in charge of transfer dealings has been pretty shit for some time now. NOt only this horrible transfer summer so it is well imaginable that they gave in for KDB to leave. IMO he needed the time at Wolfsburg to become the player he is now. Not technically, but mentally. It gave him confidence and resilience he lacked when he was here even though the ability was always there. So IMO a loan would have been the better option. I hope we somehow get some rotation in so we can keep bench players happy. Our mistakes in many cases have been to sell players too early just because we had a prefered choice over them: Robben, KDB, Sturridge maybe even Mata and Lukaku . IMO there is no sense in selling a clearly sufficiently talented player before he has reached his peak or more development can be expected. Even if the players we prefered to them turned out shite, the manager has the right make his pick. Though he should also be able keep the 2nd choice happy. Too often in football have those inital second choice become the better players in the long term. zolayes and mediator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neira 19 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 What he lacked at chelsea, was a high enough price tag, which resulted in zero credit. didierforever, zolayes and mediator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I bet that he's going to score 1 goal and 1assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I bet that he's going to score 1 goal and 1assist.Well so far he's been crap so I'd bet against your prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neira 19 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Define crap. Bbc: City break, Kevin de Bruyne sweeps in a brilliant ball, cuts out three defenders to find Yaya Toure - and he fluffs his connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Is Kevin de Bruyne still in Rojos pockets? Bad game by his standards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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